News on the 5th park

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When i am in disney next week, I plan on going to see the new AK lodge, And while I am there I want to check out these roads everyone is talking about, everyone talked about them so much i feel like it is an attraction itself! So if someone could tell me what I am looking for when I go there that would be great. Thanks :bounce:


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Well!! What do you know!! I'll be there from the 2nd of August until the 16th. Maybe I'll see you there. OWTS and Steve!! Watch out. I'll be looking for you two!! ;)
 
We have heard that BK was a go not too long ago.
And it was spost to be 'based' on thrills based on imaginary animals (ei:Dualing Dragons).
I also noticed the blocked off road (when I toured AKL last June).
These roads would be the most likely 'hidden' access to the parimeter of the AK.
From what I understand, Beastly Kingdom will go in behind Camp Minnie Mickey.
Camp Minnie Mickey (characters are) actually are part of the theme, since they are 'imaginary' animals themselves. Although, Lion King and Pocahantas aren't, they would serve as a good shield/distraction for the new Beastly area being built behind it. Considering the continuing popularity of the Lion King and Pocahantas shows, I imagine new stages will be built for them in Africa and Conservation Station respectively. Then, during the 'month', that the new Beastly Kingdom is soft opened, the LK and P shows will move to their new stages and a new Beastly based show will begin rehearsals in the Lion King Stage. The Pocahantas 'stage' stuff would be easily moved to the new show area and the site will either be 'buried' or become something new for the kids (play area, more meet and greet, more permanant shops) in the 'friendly/kids' part of the new Beastly Kingdom. The current cookie hut at the end of the trail will probably magically disappear and become the trail to the new Beastly area behind.
I imagine that a new show in the Lion King 'playhouse' could follow the same theme as the Festival of the Lion King, where our lovable characters battle and defeat some scary beasts, with the help of some Mickey Magic (or simply incinerated by a dragon...that would have to be a night show to get the full effect of the flaming Pooh).
 

Honestly, I wish that they would use the land that camp minnie mickey is on to have some new lands like australia and south america. I agree, the lion king show should be moved to Africa - the camp show place is lame - and that pocohontos should be moved to rafiki's planet watch. I'd like to see the charecter things moved to discovery island or something. Camp minnie mickey seems like such a waste of space. But since beastly kingdom was already built a couple of years ago, I wish they'd let that go (or maybe keep some small ode, like a dragon in the river to boat by or something) and use the land for austrialia (people would really love to see kangaroos, koalas, etc.) and south america (think of a dca-like "soarin over the amazan") plus other cool attractions. That would make AK seem more complete to me.

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Don't get me wrong, it can be done, but it would take quite a bit of work and $$. The animal holding areas, home to porcupines, skunks, racoons, turkeys, and a few others are right behind the stage and take up quite a bit of space. It takes a while for many of these animals to get used to new surroundings, as they identify with their 'territory' by smell (and smell it does!)....

Gee, I thought I had something else to say, but I forgot. Oh well, if I remember, I'll post again.

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I heard the same rumor about a fifth park from a bus driver this past spring.He also talked about a new luxury hotel.
Just a question. When you spoke of a blocked off road is that the one that goes right in front of the AKL. If it is I think that used to be a road for employees that went out to 192 by Publix. Friends used to take that as a shortcut when they visited us when we were at Disney. They can't use it anymore, it just seems to end at an employee parking lot.
 
There are still shortcuts back there, I was an idiot of not taking it last night - that mistake cost me 30 minutes.

From 192, take Black Lake Road to Sherberth, then take a right at the stop light, and you are on Osceola Parkway right next to the AK.
 
We also saw the blocked off roads by AKL that Tikiman described (beginning of July), and we thought it was strange that the road just ended with a barrier. We never asked anyone about it, but something is definately going on there.







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Let me second the person who is waiting for Australia and South America. Now that would get me back into car #2!

Two big themed lands, announced but built 2-4 years after one another, one anchored by a Soaring type attraction, the other anchored by a Big Thunder speed of coaster/attraction through the animal areas of Australia. Awesome.
 
Add me to the group that thinks that they’re working on an addition to the existing park (as in the completion of an area that was in the original plans but hasn’t been built yet) as opposed to a new park.

I was able to attend a Sneak Peak at the Animal Kingdom before it opened. I just pulled out my “A Sneak Preview” book from my very first visit to the theme park. The copyright is from 1997. I thought I would post a few paragraphs from “The Big Idea” section (the first chapter in the book). There is also a drawing of the proposed theme park that I will try to scan and post sometime soon (it’s a small picture but maybe it will shed some light on the happenings that Tikiman heard about).

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“…Extensive research showed that Disney in association with animals was appealing to theme park guests. By January 1990, a small team of Disney Imagineers was hard at work in a tiny cluttered office strewn with three-by-five cards and artists’ sketch pads.

These artists, architects and writers were part of a long tradition of theme park creation at Walt Disney Imagineering, the renowned division responsible for dreaming up and building Disneyland and the five Disney theme parks in Florida, Tokyo and Paris. From the beginning, the Animal Kingdom team drew on over forty years of experience in creating exciting stories, inventing the latest in attraction technology and constructing entertaining environments.

Brainstorming, book reading, research and soul searching led to a clear consensus – the park could not be simply about live animals. The themes would be derived from humankind’s emotional reaction to animals. Our love for animals of all types – our enduring fascination with living, extinct and imaginary creatures – is the core of what would become Disney’s Animal Kingdom.

The earliest concept drawings illustrate a three-part experience combining traditional, fantasy-based theme-park attractions with a zoo-like component and an Epcot-style pavilion. The team likened these three elements to the three stages of love for animals that humans experience – the early, childlike love of animals experienced through stories and myths; the youthful adventure of going on safari to encounter live animals or even dinosaurs; and the mature, respectful love of animals that comes from knowing and appreciating them as fellow creatures of power, grace, and beauty.

Unlike other Disney theme parks, architecture would be downplayed. One index card read, “nature is more powerful than human effort.” Barriers between humans and animals would disappear – literally as well as figuratively. Proximity equals excitement, the team believed, as they created an entirely new type of park where free roaming herds of wildlife immerse guests in a real-life narrative adventure. Encounters with living animals, as well as recreated creatures from myth and animals resurrected from extinction, were vital to preserving and enriching our emotional connections with animals. The designers knew this approach would ultimately lead guests to a fuller understanding of animals, ecosystems and their plights. As one Imagineer put it, “Disney’s way of standardizing, broadening and disseminating information goes beyond entertainment, beyond business, beyond making money. It’s giving something back.” ”
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I think the blocked off road near AK is going to be a West Gate grand entry, sucking the 192 traffic from the west into Disney World. Or you can think of it as a continuation of Osceola Parkway westward to 192.

There is also a plan (not Disney) for a north south freeway further west, jusst before Orange Lake resort, with an interchange at 192, thgis new Disney road would be perfectly positioned to capture traffic from that as well.

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It's no problem Landbaron...I hope you have fun on your trip!!

WOW some of you guys have great imaginations but I can assure you it's nothing as grand as what's been mentioned here. I'm shuting up now..... :D
 
When we were in Disney three years ago DW and myself did the Keys to the Kingdom tour. At that point our guide mentioned that the plans were for two more parks to be opened both containing more thrill rides.

He had mentioned that the first of the new parks would be near the AK and that they were hoping to have it open around 2005 or so. Sounds like he is pretty close.


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There are still shortcuts back there, I was an idiot of not taking it last night - that mistake cost me 30 minutes.


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Don't tell every one about the short cuts or we will never get home!
I don't think they will ever finsh 192
 
There is also a plan (not Disney) for a north south freeway further west, jusst before Orange Lake resort, with an interchange at 192, thgis new Disney road would be perfectly positioned to capture traffic from that as well.

I don't think so, There is US 27 at the end of 192 that already goes north/south they have plans to expand it to 3 lanes in the future....
 
Road going past AK is for a new enterence off of 192. Sorry to kill the excitment.:jester:
 
However, didn't the Animal Kingdom have some type of fireworks on New Year's Eve during the millenium celebration? If memory serves they were supposed to be out in the parking lot.

Just thought I'd answer this. They did have a NYE celebration in 1998 and 1999 that was held in the parking lot area. However, the "fireworks" were not real fireworks but some type of pseudo-firework. I'm assuming a confetti and lights shooting out of tubes type of thing. (I wasn't there so I can't tell you for sure how it worked out.)
 
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