Newly engaged, and advice...

Congratulations!

My advice:

* Love is a verb.

* You take care of your problems (if any arise) with your family, and he with his.

* Don't sweat the small stuff.

* Through it all, stay friends. Treat each other with respect and dignity.

I hope you have many happy years together! :)

Awesome!! :thumbsup2
 
Well, if you're in faith-based counseling, you're probably not all that interested in the normal advice I give to newly engaged couples: Move in with each other beforehand. That aside, there are three great topics that need to be addressed and decided before marriage: kids, finances and religion. It looks like you two are the same religion, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have the same views. Figure out where your differences lie. Also, figure out how many kids you want, and when. Finally, determine who will be in charge of finances and how they will be handled. If possible, merge your finances prior to the marriage. You won't really know what your fiance's credit is like until it's your credit too.
 
Sounds like you two are off to a good start and are being realistic.

Realize that once you are married you are now a partnership. No more his and hers. No separate checking accounts or separate apartments and houses. Everything should be together. What's mine is his and vica versa.

Fight clean. No matter how perfect you are for each other, there will be disagreements, arguments, fights, what ever you want to call them. No name calling, dragging up hurtful things from the past, no yelling or throwing things.

Since divorce it not an option, don't even let it come up in your arguments. Never even threaten it. This should also give you security in your marriage. Knowing that he is not going to run off and leave you if you say something that he doesn't like.

The newlywed stage is so much fun. All the romance and togetherness. Getting to really know each other. It can also be a trying learning experience. You both come from different backgrounds and this is going to shade who you each are and what your reactions to situations are going to be. Communicate!! So very important. It's easy to misinterpret something that he is saying or doing. Don't be afraid to talk it out.

Us CT women must think alike...because this is what I was going to say! :goodvibes

I would add that you make an agreement that if either of you invokes 'neutral 3rd party' because you're at a standoff about an issue and just can't get past it...that the other agrees to go. It's not something any WANTS to do, but boy does it help to know that before someone walks about you WILL have that option and WILL use it. My dh came to 1 impasse in the 10 years we've been together so far. Neither of us could get past it, and we're normally excellent at compromising. But this was a tricky issue fraught with emotion and we just couldn't. It took only a few sessions with a trained Marriage and Family Therapist, and we had it resolved and went on our merry way. We wouldn't hesitate to go back to her if we needed to.

And one other thing...remember that he cannot read your mind. It doesn't make him a bad husband if you give him a list of ideas for Christmas or your birthday (or Mother's Day, etc.). :goodvibes

Congrats!!
 

Make sure you are both on the same page with finances and parenting.

I have friends who are not even in the same BOOK much less the same page when it comes to finances. It's a huge strain on their relationship and unfortunately I see them crashing and burning over it some day.

Make goals and discuss together how to reach them. If this means you each get an "allowance" to blow as you see fit every week/month great...do whatever works for you.

Again on the parenting thing. If one wants to let junior get away with murder and the other wants to set strict boundaries, there's going to be major friction.

Our marriage is a partnership. I see many that are not.
 
We've been married for 15 1/2 years....and the only ones still married out of a core group of friends!

Go into the marriage on the same page (I think someone else mentioned this too) about kids, finances, what each others role will be in the home, etc. My husband actually thought that his breakfast would be on the table every morning when he woke up because that's what his mother did. (we didn't live together before we got married.) I nipped THAT expectation right in the bud!! :laughing:

Keep your marriage to yourselves. DON'T discuss your problems with your mother or his no matter how close you are. We are fortunate that both of our parents stay out of our business. Do I discuss my frustrations with others, yes, but when we went through a rocky time I didn't blab it to all of my friends and coworkers and certainly not my mother!!

If you do have children down the road remember to make time for each other. Your husband was there before your kids and he will be there when they are grown and gone. I have heard of so many couples who have their lives completely revolve around their kids, get divorced after 20 years because they don't know each other anymore.


Bolding is mine. I agree with everything this poster said...but when I was typing my answer I left this out. I too have seen more than my fair share of couples that made it all about the kids and didn't know why they were together anymore other than the kids.
 
Lots of good advice here. I've only been married 15 wonderful years, but here is what I would emphasize from the PPs:

I especially agree with the being on the same page about all the big issues before you get married (do not expect that either of you will change on that stuff).

You allegiance (both of you) to family after marriage should be as follows:

1. Spouse
2. kids
3. everyone else

That means that you support your spouse to your mother or to the kids, etc.
Put being yourself and being so&so's wife ABOVE being so&so's mother and way above being so&so's daughter or niece, etc.
 
A little over 36 years here.

1. Make sure that -- right now -- you are each other's best friend. The person that you'd rather spend time with than anyone else in the world, no exceptions.

2. No topics are off-limits. There are no topics so dangerous or divisive that they can't be talked about.

3. Don't worry if you don't see eye-to-eye on everything. No two people are exactly alike. Just make sure that you take the time to explain your differences to each other, and to yourselves. (Yes, that's exactly what I mean.)

4. Never let a day go by without saying "I love you" and sharing at least one good long hug.

5. Don't keep secrets from each other unless it's about a present. He will find out, eventually, about your little indiscretions as a teenager, and you about his. Make sure that YOU are the ones to tell him about them, and vice versa.

6. Make time every day for conversation. Not just about "important things" like finances or raising the children, but about ordinary things, and silly things too.

7. Laugh often, never at each other. If you don't share your senses of humor, things are already off on the wrong foot.

8. Both of you: There are lots of men/women in the world. You are incredibly lucky that your other half picked you. Don't forget that, and it doesn't hurt to remind them that you never forget it either.

9. Romance doesn't always just happens. Sometimes you have to work at it. It's always worth it.

10. You will both change and grow. Keep the lines of communication open and active, so that you don't grow apart.

11. If you do find yourself growing apart, then do what you need to do. Talk, joint counseling... whatever. And if it turns out that it just does NOT work out, then part friends.

I hope that you always look at your marriage as the best decision you ever made, and the best thing that ever happened to you. (Mrs. Tex and I certainly do!)
 
I forgot a big things I see a lot of our friends doing:

do not expect your spouse to read your mind or see "little" things the same way you do. Do not "test" your spouse and then get all silently angry when they fail some test they never knew they were taking. In short, to not be petty or play mind games.

Examples:
Don't not say happy anniversary while you wait for your spouse to prove he remembered and say it first. Set him up to succeed by asking him a day or two before hand where he wants to have dinner and discussing if you both want to exchange gifts or not and if so in what price range.

Don't pout all night and expect him to notice and ask what is wrong. Just pull him aside and tell him

Etc.

I am always blown away by the number of adults who play these silly middle school games with their spouses and then hold onto resentment from them for years until that grows and overshadows their love. It is sad.
 
Here's what I see a lot of these days: too much focus on "the wedding" and not enough focus on your feelings. I think many women get so caught up in wanting to be married and getting swept away by the planning, that they put their feelings about a lifetime with someone on the back burner. Nagging little doubts get pushed aside. Issues that seem "small" now get pushed aside because you are so swept up in the romance and the planning of the big day that you gloss over things.

Don't. Pay attention to your relationship NOW and be very attuned to those little red flags. Work them out in pre-marital counseling or, for goodness sake, just speak up about them. Don't put them off until later.

OP, not saying you have these issues at all, just something I have witnessed in the last few years with new brides to be.
 
Obey... answer the call to your marriage before all else.
Reaffirm... constantly remind eachother why you joined together.
Ask... what can you do to put your partner in a better state?
Live... in the present... leave yesterday's problems behind.
 
Always remember to take time to nurture your marriage during the chaos of careers and child raising as i know to many people who lost themselves and their marriage during that time and then when the kids were grown and moved on they found they had no marriage left. We always take a bit of time for us individually as a person and time together as a couple......may not be week long vacations, but time together none the less as well as time pursing our own interests and time with friends. Happy individuals make it easier to have a happy marriage in my mind. We have been together 15 years and still happy :lovestruc
 
Never said she should do that but there is no harm in planning or doing somethings a little bit extravagantly. Nor did I say it's the point of the day. I just think many people try to convince others not to have big, fun weddings just because they didn't want/have one. It's ok to want a big day and it's ok when things don't work 100%.

Pre cana does not work. Ive seen most of the couple who have gone through it divorced over the "topics discussed". One couple lasted a mere 8 months and divorced about kids.
REAL counseling will last and will be there after the marriage. Some with a degree in family therapy.

If you're not of a religiouos bent, then pre-Cana probably won't work because you won't put any stock in it (the universal you, not specifically you). DH & I have been married 20 years and did Pre-Cana and found it to be enlightening about a couple fo things, most of the group of folks that we hang with have been married 15+ years, all did Pre-Cana and have stayed together.

The blanket statement "Pre-Cana does not work" is incorrect. Perhaos you would do better to say "The people I know don't put a lot of stock in pre-Cana so they don't feel it was helpful or added to the success of their marriage".
 
Never make ultimatums that its either your way or the highway. Keep in mind that your spouse may just take you up on it, so keep it off the table. ;)
 
eight years together this week.


help each other.



everything else will fall into place.
 
It's not a 50/50 partnership, but rather 100/100. You each have to give all of yourselves to each other. What I mean by that is, always open honesty...no secrets...and never hide anything.

Best wishes to you as you start all the fun planning. I had to plan most of my wedding long distance, so I missed out on some of the fun stuff.
 
Obey... answer the call to your marriage before all else.
Reaffirm... constantly remind eachother why you joined together.
Ask... what can you do to put your partner in a better state?
Live... in the present... leave yesterday's problems behind.

I just LOVE this!

OP, you have gotten a lot of good input here!

Here is what I have to add.
When we were married, I realize that I did NOT really know who my husband was. I may have thought I did. But, looking back, I did not.

I have been committed to our marriage, above everything else.
I have had to be!
We have been married for 20 plus years now!!!! :goodvibes
But, I will have to admit that MY commitment, and the sheer grace of God, are probably the reasons why.

Little things that I brushed off and attrlbuted to things like young age, inexperience, limited finances, etc... turned out to be big issues. Never, ever, think that anyone will change, or mature (grow up), etc....

Those things did not go away... They only came more to the forefront, and have affected our marriage. As well as the fact that my husband was, and has sometimes been, way more committed to his parents (only child with controlling, overinvolved, parents, a dynamic that is almost impossible to break thru...) than he should have been to me.

Here are my words of wisdom.
First, the advice that I quoted from a previous post, above.
Your marriage has to be first and always.
Period.
Make sure that he, as well as yourself, are on the same page about this.
You should be AS-ONE.
"And, forsaking all others....."

Secondly, based on my personal experience....
Do not brush things off too easily.
Try to step back and to not look at your wonderful budding relationship thru those rose-colored glasses.
If there are little things that leave you with even the smallest of that nagging, negative, feeling. Things that continue to make you wonder....
Try to address and discuss even the smallest of things.
If that doesn't feel possible, remember, this kind of intimate honesty is a MUST for a wonderful successful marriage!

PS: Just because you are serious about your marriage, and are religious/spiritual, doesn't mean that you can't have the most amazing and wonderful celebration of your wedding possible!!!!
 
For the wedding: Try to walk the thin line between "it's the most important day of your life" and "it's only one day". Pick out the 2-3 things that really matter to the two of you, and make sure those things are done exactly as you want -- and be moderate on the other things. If the dress really, really, really matters to you, get it . . . but do so with the understanding that you're going to have to skimp on the flowers to pay for the dress. Do not go into debt for your wedding; what you really NEED is a marriage license and a ring.

The first year'll be the hardest. It's the year in which you'll be learning how to operate as a married couple, who's in charge of what tasks, etc. It's also going to be one of the most exciting years in your life. No matter how prepared you think you are for marriage, your new spouse will surprise you quite a few times! Don't even consider living together first -- instead, save that excitement of sharing your home together for your first married year.

Think about the way you treat your fiance' now. You go out of your way to do nice things for him, don't you? You make his favorite meal, leave a note on his car, wear the bracelet he gave you because you know it pleases him, watch a movie that really doesn't interest you just because you want to be near him, light a candle for the dinner table, buy him a little something "just because". Too many people stop doing these things once they're married. Those people see the dating/courtship period as a time to "win over" the prospective spouse, and they figure that once they're married, the race is won. No need to continue. They become too busy with other things, and they forget to do those special things for the person they claim to love most. Make a conscious decision NOT to do that. At least every other day, make a point to do something extra-nice for your spouse. You'll see that you'll get the same in return, and that'll keep you appreciating one another.

About money: Sit down and discuss it in great detail. How much do you each earn /are you likely to earn in the future? How do you see yourself spending /saving in future years? Do you want to splurge on a great house and let retirement slide? Do you anticipate saving for your children's educations? Are you willing to one day help support your parents financially? How much will you spend on vacations in an average year? How often do you expect to eat out /get a new car /buy new clothing /spend on Christmas? You need a new sofa: Do you head to the mall and pick a cool one, or do you investigate used options and read quality reviews? How much debt are you comfortable carrying? The worst thing you can possibly do when it comes to money is to assume that your fiance shares your views. Families who are financially stable are much more likely to stay together.

About children: Again, discuss your views on when to start trying, how many you each want, how you expect to discipline, how you'd handle a child who wasn't healthy, whether you intend to use day care or have a parent stay home, etc. Of course you'll end up changing some of your ideals when reality sets in, but get an idea of your spouse's starting point.

When kids come along, keep your priorities in mind: Spouse first, kids second. Your spouse was there first. Your spouse'll still be there when the kids are grown and have moved on to create their own families. My husband and I have been married 22 years, and we have teenagers -- we're not that far from being empty nesters. We're mid-40s, and some of our friends are empty-nesters now. I see that some of them have really "lost their marriage" as they threw themselves into parenthood, and they're floundering now. A couple of them have split up, and I fear we'll see more. I'm glad to say that my husband and I aren't on that path. We went out together last Saturday night, and he commented that he likes going out with me now more than back when we were dating. It led to a discussion of what we expect our lives to be like in a few years when it's just the two of us again, and it sounds pretty good to me. Don't get me wrong: We're both going to be devestated on the day that our youngest heads out to college, and it's only 3.5 years away . . . but we will be devestated together, not each of us separately.

Some people disagree with this, citing that kids should be the center of the family -- they're confusedly thinking that putting your spouse first means ignoring the kids. Kids have lots of needs. There's always a fire (figurative, not literal) somewhere, and you need to take care of your kids NOW. So you'll do those things -- you'll take the baby to the doctor, drive the older one to soccer, feed everyone, wash clothes . . . but at the end of the day, if you value your marriage, you'll ALSO take some time just for your spouse. Time to remind him that HE is the center of your world, and just because you spend your day putting out fires doesn't mean that you don't keep him in the center of your heart every minute of it.

A couple other people have said it, but it's good advice: Never talk badly about your husband to other people. Keep your disagreements private. On the other hand, don't hesitate to say good things about him in public: How well he handled a household repair, how he surprised you with flowers for no reason, what a great job he's doing with your son's baseball team. Praising him will only make you feel better and better about your marriage. Tearing him down -- even on the occasions that he might just deserve it -- will do just the opposite. It'll make you feel that you're justified in staying mad.

Discuss how you'll handle holidays. Will you alternate Thanksgivings between your parents' houses, but always be home on Christmas day? Will you host events? How important is it that you see your families on the holidays? Are your parents likely to invite you to take large family vacations? How do you each feel about that?

Discuss how you each prefer to handle unhappy events and disagreements. For example, my husband and I have very different styles, something that's been very apparent over the years. When something's wrong, I want to talk about it. It's how I think things through, how I figure out how I feel about things. He's learned over the years that I'm not asking him to swoop in and fix everything -- I just want him to listen. On the other hand, when he has a problem at work, he storms in angry and wants to be left alone 'til he's had time time simmer down a bit. And that makes me think that he's mad at me, so I fuss around trying to figure out what I've done. He's learned over the years that he needs to say to me, "I'm upset about something at work. It's not you. I'm not ready to talk about it." Knowing that, I can leave him alone to go piddle around in the back yard; he'll hit things and talk to himself . . . and when he's good and ready, he'll tell me what's up. I can't force it. If I hover, he will get mad at me.

Don't make any attempt to keep things "equal" between you. It'll never work. Instead, decide what works best for your family. To give some examples: My husband earns a good bit more money than I do, but my flexible schedule allows me more time to take care of the kids' needs. We're both contributing to the family, even though his financial contributions are greater. On the other hand, he's never once cleaned anything voluntarily in all our 22 years together. I figured out long ago that I can fuss and fight and make him do a portion of the housework . . . but I'll pay for it later because he'll pout about it, and we'll fight. So I do all of the housework cheerfully, and I make a conscious effort to remember that he takes care of the yard (a job I hate), he puts gas in my car, and he does quite a few other things that I could easily overlook -- if I weren't trying to find reasons to be grateful for his contributions to running the household. If you look for for inequalities, you'll find them. If you look for reasons to appreciate your spouse, you'll find them. If you talk about the bad things more often, he'll feel defeated and won't make an effort; if you talk about the positive things he does, you'll see an increase in them. What's that saying about the plant that grows is the one that gets watered?

It's true of parenting too: When the kids were young, he was the "morning parent": Because he went in to work at 9:00, he got them out of bed, fed them breakfast, dressed them, and took them to daycare. Because I'm out of work mid-afternoon, I'd pick them up and take them home. Yes, my "share" of the parenting was greater: He had the kids only about 2 hours alone, while I had them from 3:00 - bedtime, and I also had to cook dinner and do housework during the afternoon. Still, it was a fair trade to me: I hate getting up in the mornings, and being excused from all morning chores was a wonderful gift to me. The kids benefitted from having time alone with their dad too. So, work on what's efficient for your family, and don't get too caught up in whether he's doing "his share".

Celebrate one another's strengths, but forgive one another's faults. Before you become angry with him for his shortcomings, remember that you too have your bad points.

Best wishes to you and your fiance'!
 
I'll be celebrating my 17th wedding anniversary in a few days. I think it's important to:

Never talk about your spouse in a derogatory way to another person. In my 17 years of marriage, I have never said a bad word about my spouse to anyone. I've joked about him leaving clothes everywhere or the way he puts away clean clothes by setting them on the dining room table, but I've never put him down to anyone.

If something is bothering your spouse, no matter how insignificant it might seem, it matters. Always consider his feelings. My husband mentioned to me that it bothered him when I went out to lunch alone with a certain guy from work. Although there was nothing to it, I respected his feelings and stopped. When I didn't like him hanging out with a guy who I knew was cheating on his wife, he stopped. Other people might think these things were no big deal, buy my spouse and I realized they were big deals to us, so we did what it took to make each other feel comfortable.

Be faithful, even in the worst of times. If you stand together, you can get through anything. If you turn away from each other, then things can break beyond repair.

Congratulations. I hope you both have a happy life together. :goodvibes
 
Seeking advice from those recently or long-time married. It is REALLY important to us to stay focused on building a good marriage together, and not to get too caught up in all the wedding details. So I am trying to do that!

What advice or tips would you give to someone (not wedding-related, but marriage-related) to a newly engaged couple? Pearls of wisdom from those married a long time? Things we should consider or discuss? Things to do or consider as newlyweds?

We are definitely doing church-based premarital counseling, as well.

Thanks! :goodvibes


Congradulations to you!! The wedding day is your day but don't feel pressured to have a lot of bridesmaids ect. Have people stand up in your wedding like your sister. That is really all you need. Listen to your Vows and mean them.

Martial advice.... Well go into this marrige with a plan on how you want to dicipline your children. My husband and I agree there and it helps us we are a united front to the children. Don't make empty threats to your kids. If you way if you do that one more time i'm going to take away your favoite toy..Please take away that toy. If I disagree with my husbands dicipine I never tell him infront of the kids we talk about it later behind clothes doors and we usually agree. He does the same to me.

Talk about household chores. What would like to see him help you with? Are there times like Football games where it is his time and doesn't want to be intruped? How is he going to feel about staying home with the kids while you have a girls weekend?

Talk, talk talk and never stop talking. The first year you will seem to annoy eachother but it does get better when you learn eachother habits and little things they do. I know my husband really had a hard time getting a glass inside the dishwasher. Drove me crazy but now i just know that is how it is... He will do it eventually but it will sit there most of the day:)

One last word of advice! May all your ups and down be between the sheets! :rotfl2:

Been married 10 years and it still feels like we just got married enjoy your life together. Pick your battles don't fight over taking out the garbage!
 


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