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[esbrick]

Hi everyone....well today was not a good day. I found out not only is my right tube completely blocked and has fluid in it but there is a block in my left tube as well. I actualy started crying in his office I am so devestated. I have never had surgery, never been diagnosed with anything in my life (as far as I know) and both my tubes are blocked???? I don't get it!

I am a little concerned as to what this Dr wants to do next. Because I have fibroids as well (which according to the HSG test was not necessarily a factor to my ectopic or blocked tubes)but I do have them...he wants to do a Laparotomy...to remove the fibroids and remove my right tube and possibly my left depending on what he sees when he goes in there. If it wasn't for the fibroids I would just have a laposcopy but this laparotomy is different. It is an incision near my bikini line and is much more invasive.

The thing that is puzzling me....is When we kept asking about the left tube being partially blocked and possibly having fluid in it (he wasn't 100% positive) he then mentioned getting a tube catheterization....which is sort of like a HSG test except they actually put the catheter directly into the tube to see if they can see how damaged it is. This way when he performs the Laparotomy they know what they are dealing with.

The reason for my concerns is he didn't mention the tube catheterization until we kept asking the same questions about my left tube and how bad it was. Meaning he was going straight for the laparotomy and didn't mention the tube cath. until later on. I know this probably doesn't make sense so I apologize if I am talking in circles.

Once these surgery's are all done my only option would be IVF which my ins does not cover. It is so much to take in and I have been practically crying the whole night. I am so scared of all of this.

I am see a fertility specialist with all of this but am faxing over my records to my regular gyno just to get his opinion to make sure I am doing the right thing

Thank you for reading this

Oh my goodness I am so sorry! That is alot to handle all in one day DEFINATELY! One thing to keep in mind, when you can think clearly, is that there are ways of coding things that the nurses/ office administrators may know to get some stuff passed through insurance. There are also payment plans that are reasonable. It might be worth googling "financing infirtility treatments" and see what comes up. I guess what I'm really trying to say is all is not lost and we are here for you to listen!

Oh, ckret, I'm so sorry about your results.

One question I have, and it could be because of my own ignorance about these things... he is saying your only option after the surgery is IVF? Then what is the point of having the surgery in the first place? Are blocked tubes dangerous if left unchecked?

Maybe you need a second opinion-- glad you're checking with your gyno too!

I have the same question and sounds like it's worth looking into. I'm sorry if I am going to ask a stupid question here, please remember that I did fail sex ed in the 6th grade and I'm relearining as we go along. It was my understanding that if you had an IUI or IVF you by pass the tubes right?

 

[ckret01]

Oh, ckret, I'm so sorry about your results.

One question I have, and it could be because of my own ignorance about these things... he is saying your only option after the surgery is IVF? Then what is the point of having the surgery in the first place? Are blocked tubes dangerous if left unchecked?

Maybe you need a second opinion-- glad you're checking with your gyno too!

Thank you all for your responses

si-am: My right tube is blocked and has fluid in it I believe called (hydrosalinx) and having that fluid would decrease my chances of getting pregnant because the higher your hormones get the fluid sac releases the fluid into your uterus which cause mis-carriages etc. My Dr thinks that my left tube which is partially blocked also has fluid in it....and if that is the case then both tubes need to be removed before IVF. And of course not having either tube my only option is IVF.

IF and thats a big IF....my left tube can be repaired I might have a chance of getting pregnant with an IUI. Hopefully the Tubal Catheterization will determine how bad my left tube is before I go in for the Lapartomy and they remove both tubes and fibroids.

I hope that makes sense. I am trying to get the specialist I am seeing to fax over my records to my gyno quickly so I can make an apt with him to get his opinion before I go for all these tests.

 

[Soccer Princess]

esbrick -- I cried when watching UP too. I had been warned, so I watched it alone at home, but the dogs were looking at me like I was a crazy woman.

Ckret -- I am so sorry to hear that. Hugs and good wishes your way!

 

[RachaelRol]

Thank you all for your responses

si-am: My right tube is blocked and has fluid in it I believe called (hydrosalinx) and having that fluid would decrease my chances of getting pregnant because the higher your hormones get the fluid sac releases the fluid into your uterus which cause mis-carriages etc. My Dr thinks that my left tube which is partially blocked also has fluid in it....and if that is the case then both tubes need to be removed before IVF. And of course not having either tube my only option is IVF.

IF and thats a big IF....my left tube can be repaired I might have a chance of getting pregnant with an IUI. Hopefully the Tubal Catheterization will determine how bad my left tube is before I go in for the Lapartomy and they remove both tubes and fibroids.

I hope that makes sense. I am trying to get the specialist I am seeing to fax over my records to my gyno quickly so I can make an apt with him to get his opinion before I go for all these tests.

Cricket,

I am so sorry for your news. Definitely get the second opinion from your gyno. Mine just referred me to the specialist and he asked that I keep him updated on any procedures etc they recommend. It's good to have someoen you know watching your back.

 

[cherbear]

Ckret I'm sorry you got such bad news. I hope that this ends up being an easier fix than expected, and that you can do IUI instead of having to move to IVF.

Sorry I didn't post earlier. I did test and BFN (with FRER and $ store). Although if I don't get a BFP tomorrow morning with FMU I'm going to try testing tomorrow night as well because I've been reading that some people just don't get great results with FMU. Some get better results with SMU (2nd morning urine) or even afternoon/evening pee.

My hips have still been hurting and my b00bs are sore...and throbbing off and on throughout the day. Last night I fell asleep after dinner and slept for 2 hours -- then when I woke up I felt like I had been sleeping on my chest, they were throbbing a ton. But I was sleeping on my back so I don't get it.

 

[skuttle]

Hi Everyone!! I know I've been MIA for a while, but I've been thinking a lot about this whole TTC and I think I've come to peace with giving up.

It's been almost 4 YEARS since we started TTC #2. We started TTC in the summer of 2006. After meds, tests, surgery, and 3 failed clomid/IUIs with only 2 chemical pregnancies to show for it...I think I'm done.

I've thought long and hard about things since my RE appt back in November when we were told the next step is injectables. And I think I'm tired of it. I don't see how I'd be successful with injectables if I wasn't successful with Clomid when I responded well to the clomid.

My heart still sinks when I see a pregnant girl or a newborn...and even AF STILL makes me sad after all of these years. This whole process has taken so much out of me. I just don't know if I can go through with the injectables. So for now, I think I'm done. (But I do reserve the right to change my mind. ).

So for now, I'm planning our WDW trip, getting read to watch the Saints on Sunday...and hoping to get lucky (pun intended ) w/o any doctors or tests or medications. I think I'm done with the drs, but not quite ready to jump back onto birth control yet.

Thanks so much to all of you that have helped me cope with this. I wish all of you the very best!

To all of you newbies...I hope your stay is short, but if it's not, you've got a great support group here.

 

[esbrick]

You have been through so much and you have been wonderful to share your story. We have all benefited from it at one point or another. I know this was a big decision for you. To be honest I hope that you never have to come back for help but would love to have you visit for your insight when you feel up to it

Have a great time at WDW and on DCL! If you would let me know how it goes! Those people over on teh DCL board are very nice too. I think Mike and I are going to go to WDW in May so I am working this weekend on making ADR's and looking at some books for me to take with, my escape time!

Best of luck!

 

[WDWorBUST]

Skuttle - so glad that you have found peace with the process and your decision. I haven't been trying for 4 years yet, and due to my age I will quit long before that, but sitting at the year and a half mark and where I am emotionally all I can say is you must be one strong woman!

Cherbear - sorry about another BFN. Doesn't mean it's over yet though

Well I tested this morning with a FRER and got another BFN so I have resolved myself that this cycle is a bust. I know I have always tested positive later in my cycles and I'm only 11dpo (but LP is usually only 11 or 12 days) but I just really feel like there is just no hope at this point. And I'd really like a big strong drink of some kind - of course I don't drink and I'm at work so I won't, but that's what I feel like I want to do right now. The positive is that I have my fertility monitor for this next cycle and a doctors appointment tomorrow to see what comes next. I don't know how much longer I can continue.....this morning I was talking to a friend and was talking about how life's disappointments happen and then you move on....but for every month to be disappointed just really wears on my heart. (oh - and of course I started crying while I was talking about it)

 

[momsully]

Hi Everyone!! I know I've been MIA for a while, but I've been thinking a lot about this whole TTC and I think I've come to peace with giving up.

It's been almost 4 YEARS since we started TTC #2. We started TTC in the summer of 2006. After meds, tests, surgery, and 3 failed clomid/IUIs with only 2 chemical pregnancies to show for it...I think I'm done.

I've thought long and hard about things since my RE appt back in November when we were told the next step is injectables. And I think I'm tired of it. I don't see how I'd be successful with injectables if I wasn't successful with Clomid when I responded well to the clomid.

My heart still sinks when I see a pregnant girl or a newborn...and even AF STILL makes me sad after all of these years. This whole process has taken so much out of me. I just don't know if I can go through with the injectables. So for now, I think I'm done. (But I do reserve the right to change my mind. ).

So for now, I'm planning our WDW trip, getting read to watch the Saints on Sunday...and hoping to get lucky (pun intended ) w/o any doctors or tests or medications. I think I'm done with the drs, but not quite ready to jump back onto birth control yet.

Thanks so much to all of you that have helped me cope with this. I wish all of you the very best!

To all of you newbies...I hope your stay is short, but if it's not, you've got a great support group here.

Allison - I have been MIA as well but do read almost every day. I know how hard this decision was for you. Have a great time on your trip and on your cruise. Check out the cruise board and if they have a FE group sign up. My boys loved getting little gifts and such everyday.

Like you although I have quit "trying" I still hold out a little hope that I might get lucky but I know my age and history are against me.

We will be cheering for the Saints this weekend as well!

 

[Kronk's girl]

Skuttle- Best of luck to you, and I hope your vacations are wonderful and truly relaxing as you come to peace with this. Thanks for your story. Before I started to lurk on this thread 2 years ago, I really didn't know that much about secondary infertility and I have learned a lot. And of course you always reserve the right to change your mind- we are women, we do that all the time

Hoping for some good news on here very soon! I am looking forward to distractions with the olympics, valentine's day and hopefully some other fun things to pass the time until we can try again.

 

[cherbear]

Geaux Saints!!

Anyway, I got another BFN this morning. And since I am not comfortable stopping the prometrium just yet, I decided to request a blood test. I am going on my lunchbreak, abeit a long lunch break since it's over a half hour away. I'm expecting it to be negative, but at least then I can be more confident in stopping the prometrium.

 

[barrett7890]

skuttle

Ckret, thats a lot for you to have to take in all at once

Cher good luck at your appointment

did my period math this morning , and turns out i'm going to ovulate right at the time we are on London helping friends move house. (valentines weekend)......us and Abi sharing a room, sleeping on the floor.........mmmmmmmm, hands up who thinks this cycle will be positive

cami
x

 

[esbrick]

OK blood sugar just took a nose dive, I nearly burst into tears, my ****s hurt and I gotta say, I’m a little crampy. . . What the heck? They give you these meds to get pregnant but they fix you so you don't wanna try!

OMGoodness i feel a hysteria coming on. . . Going off to find my happy place. Unfortunately I'm still at work so it will have to be the WDW website since SSR is too far away

Breathe

Breathe

 

[RachaelRol]

Hi Everyone!! I know I've been MIA for a while, but I've been thinking a lot about this whole TTC and I think I've come to peace with giving up.

It's been almost 4 YEARS since we started TTC #2. We started TTC in the summer of 2006. After meds, tests, surgery, and 3 failed clomid/IUIs with only 2 chemical pregnancies to show for it...I think I'm done.

I've thought long and hard about things since my RE appt back in November when we were told the next step is injectables. And I think I'm tired of it. I don't see how I'd be successful with injectables if I wasn't successful with Clomid when I responded well to the clomid.

My heart still sinks when I see a pregnant girl or a newborn...and even AF STILL makes me sad after all of these years. This whole process has taken so much out of me. I just don't know if I can go through with the injectables. So for now, I think I'm done. (But I do reserve the right to change my mind. ).

So for now, I'm planning our WDW trip, getting read to watch the Saints on Sunday...and hoping to get lucky (pun intended ) w/o any doctors or tests or medications. I think I'm done with the drs, but not quite ready to jump back onto birth control yet.

Thanks so much to all of you that have helped me cope with this. I wish all of you the very best!

To all of you newbies...I hope your stay is short, but if it's not, you've got a great support group here.

Hi-

Not sure if you remember me, but I remember you from the 1st TTC thread. I'm in a very similar place to you. Secondary infertility is really hard and frustrating. I'm at the four year mark too. I have an appt with the RE on Tuesday and will make our go, no-go decision. I'm scared that I won't be able to come to peace with no longer trying...

I am grateful for the wonderful kid I already have and ask God to point us in the right direction.

Have a great trip and I look forward to seeing you around the Dis.

Rachael

 

[soontobewed07]

Allison- I don't even know what to say to you except you have been such an inspiration to me. We are only at the 2 year Mark, but I hold strong because of you. Thank you for being such a wonderful friend and I hope Luck runs your way. Maybe the Seas will help change the "tides" Please check in from time to time even if it's a PM.

To everyone else I am wishing you all lots of Baby dust and hopefully those BFN turn to BFP's really soon.

As for me I am not sure what to do. DH doesn't want to try the IUI this month because we are leaving for Disney in 3 weeks, but I am just finishing a progesterone course and feel like it is such a waste to have AF twice in one month. Also the meds are already ordered and the plans are already set. Also he wants to go to Disney in December and says if we do get pregnant this cycle we won't be able to go.

 

[cherbear]

Allison- I don't even know what to say to you except you have been such an inspiration to me. We are only at the 2 year Mark, but I hold strong because of you. Thank you for being such a wonderful friend and I hope Luck runs your way. Maybe the Seas will help change the "tides" Please check in from time to time even if it's a PM.

To everyone else I am wishing you all lots of Baby dust and hopefully those BFN turn to BFP's really soon.

As for me I am not sure what to do. DH doesn't want to try the IUI this month because we are leaving for Disney in 3 weeks, but I am just finishing a progesterone course and feel like it is such a waste to have AF twice in one month. Also the meds are already ordered and the plans are already set. Also he wants to go to Disney in December and says if we do get pregnant this cycle we won't be able to go.

I never thought I'd say this but...screw Disney!

LOL

I understand not wanting to do IUI with Disney coming up so soon. But if you are confident that you'd be ready to ovulate a week before Disney then I think it would be okay. Maybe ask your dr? I can totally understand not wanting to skip a cycle too!!

AFM, I went to get my blood drawn for a beta test, and I'm still waiting on my results. They said an hour but it's been 2 and a half??? I hope it's not just my phone acting up...grrr cell phones and rain don't mix! If it is positive I will pass out right here on my desk. Just not expecting that...

 

[soontobewed07]

Oh my gosh let us know!

I am trying to convince him to give it a go this cycle. I told him I would be off the meds by the time we went to disney. So my mood would improve and I wouldn't be as cranky I hope this is true. I have never been through this so I don't know

 

[esbrick]

Oh my gosh let us know!

I am trying to convince him to give it a go this cycle. I told him I would be off the meds by the time we went to disney. So my mood would improve and I wouldn't be as cranky I hope this is true. I have never been through this so I don't know

I agree with Cherbear! But I say why can't you do both? Think about it, if it doesn't work and you didn't go you've lost out twice. If it does work and you do go you can chalk it up to the magic of Disney!

I'm rootin for ya!

Cherbear ~ I gots whatever I can get crossed for ya!

 

[WDWorBUST]

SoonToBeWed - I have to agree....Disney will still be there once you have a baby if you can't go this December. And as far as the IUI I would do it AND go to Disney.

Cherbear - keeping my fingers crossed.

Well ladies - I just have to share a hugely embarassing thing that happened to me today. Yesterday I decided to take DD for a long weekend in March to Disney. I put the flights on hold though because it is something I would discuss with DH. Well yesterday afternoon some crap blew up at his work that left him feeling on shaky ground (whether he truly is or not I don't really know....but I can tell you it's stupid and shouldn't be). So I was waiting until today after they talked to him again about it to actually purchase the tickets which I needed to do by noon. Well I called him about 11:45am and he said he wouldn't know anything today and it was probably best if I didn't go ahead with it. Well....DH lost his job about 6 months before DD was born in 2003 and every since then he has not found one that is "the" place for him. We thought this was it....but now we're wondering. (We're still waiting on a $750 expense check from September) Well the stress of it all on me is ridiculous - I thought we might actually be finally getting to a point I could feel confident in him and his job only to find out that I really couldn't. So I go in the kitchen to fix my lunch and sit down and eat with my friend. I'm doing bootcamp and following the nutrition plan that goes with it so I usually have a can of green beans and then tuna fish. Well I open my can of green beans, drain them, take the lid off only to discover they are peas. I say "These aren't green beans" and proceed to start crying, I mean really crying......over a STUPID can of vegetables!! Seriously? UGH!

 

[cherbear]

Thanks girls. I still haven't heard anything and I've checked my voicemail, so I think I will call in a few minutes. I work in an old warehouse building and it's been storming so sometimes I don't get great reception. They may have attempted to call and it didn't go through. I'm sure the results are back by now. I'm nervous to call though! I keep telling myself, you know it's gonna be negative, so don't freak out when it is. LOL