New here and trying to understand some things about resale better.

[mjmjbelle1023]

1. Your friend is wrong, you can have stays longer than 1 week. We have people on here with thousands of points, who can stay much longer than a week. You just have to modify the existing reservation to extend it out once those days past 7 days become available.

2. How much longer do you realistically expect to go? Do you only plan to go for the next 20 years? Or are you expecting to go for the next 50? That should also be a factor into your decision. Different resorts have different contract end dates.

So you can book UP to 7 at once and then add? But it's possible where you have the 7 days isn't available beyond that - so you can just do, say, a split? ( they also told me if I buy resale I cant stay anywhere else BUT my home resort now and that's not true - they were confusing the Riviera rules)
Considering I told my husband I plan to be wheeled in at age 93 on the 100th Anniversary Id say it's a safe bet that I will never stop going. I have actually flown down twice for 48 hrs because I just needed to go. (I also just looked at flights for April 3rd to stay 1 night for the return of HEA but no one will go with me lol) And Yes I just learned that BW and BC are shorter so that's very good to know.

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

You are repeating wrong information. We are trying to help you.

yes exactly, but it's not that I am going into this thinking maybe i want to dabble in WDW trips. I dont want anyone to think that. I just know with what we have spent we may have broke even by now I think my husband thought this was just for when kids were little - little did he know lol) We have 6 friends that own and I know they can help me in person too, but one told me more wrong info saying that if I buy resale I cant stay anywhere but my home resort.

 

[RoseGold]

Considering I told my husband I plan to be wheeled in at age 93 on the 100th Anniversary Id say it's a safe bet that I will never stop going.

If this is your goal, I would consider Poly2 for a long term buy. Direct. If Poly2 is restricted like RIV, you will (probably) need direct points to stay at future resorts going forward.

DVC, unlike other timeshares, is actually mostly dues. I found this chart helpful to consider the cost of various points:
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-fall-2022/

For what it matters, new resorts have usually had discounts and early sale to existing DVC members, even if they don't own much. VGF2's discount was bananas. (On that chart it would have been 175-180ish, putting it in the top few, and that's direct. But you can get GF resale in the 150s now.) If your long term plan is Poly2, it might still make sense to buy resale now to be ready for the discount.

But you really need to start with the DVC rules to know if this is even going to work for you. You don't understand how the system works, and that's important. This information is all over the internet, you don't need your, uh, creative, friends to learn all of this.

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

I will mostly buy resale also

Do not accept what someone tells you as gospel. That works for them. Consider their suggestion but look at all of this through your lens only.

True. I probably wouldn't make stuff like the special events anyway if it doesn't line up with my trip. Are the theme park tickets discounts much? I prob wouldn't bother with member lounges. Not worried about cruises - may do one and say I did it. I am more in it for long trips (and the deluxe resorts )so I get multiple days in one park. I love to do Enchanting Extras which isnt exclusive to DVC. there's tons I can do being resale and therefore saving $ to do them!

 

[DonMacGregor]

I get what you are saying but this is me repeating what I have been told in a group-not guessing.

This, I think, is your biggest hurdle at the moment. Literally everything that you were told prior to logging on here is either entirely wrong, or was presented to you in a highly inaccurate manner.

As others have said, step back and spend some time watching some of the better YouTube videos. I would suggest starting with the board sponsor, and sticking with that single source until you have a good comprehension of how the system works. I'd even avoid going to multiple online sources initially, only because even the "experts" have a habit of falling into using jargon that most potential owners are unfamiliar with, or they get a little lazy and make assumptions that they shouldn't (and in turn leave critical info out).

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

If this is your goal, I would consider Poly2 for a long term buy. Direct. If Poly2 is restricted like RIV, you will (probably) need direct points to stay at future resorts going forward.

DVC, unlike other timeshares, is actually mostly dues. I found this chart helpful to consider the cost of various points:
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-fall-2022/

For what it matters, new resorts have usually had discounts and early sale to existing DVC members, even if they don't own much. VGF2's discount was bananas. If your long term plan is Poly2, it might still make sense to buy resale now.

But you really need to start with the DVC rules to know if this is even going to work for you. You don't understand how the system works, and that's important. This information is all over the internet, you don't need your, uh, creative, friends to learn all of this.

The new Poly isn't being sold yet, correct? I also am not sure Id want that to be my home or "where I want to stay". If it's restricted I'd be disappointed. But like you said maybe resale NOW and adding to my options later on by buying one direct
Was that VGF discount to new owners too or just those existing?
Ill save that link. I have to go to dvcfan youtube as well just trying to find the time! That will probably be better than friends huh? Is there a link to a specific videos with these "rules" that you recommend?

 

[intamin]

So you can book UP to 7 at once and then add? But it's possible where you have the 7 days isn't available beyond that - so you can just do, say, a split? ( they also told me if I buy resale I cant stay anywhere else BUT my home resort now and that's not true - they were confusing the Riviera rules)
Considering I told my husband I plan to be wheeled in at age 93 on the 100th Anniversary Id say it's a safe bet that I will never stop going. I have actually flown down twice for 48 hrs because I just needed to go. (I also just looked at flights for April 3rd to stay 1 night for the return of HEA but no one will go with me lol) And Yes I just learned that BW and BC are shorter so that's very good to know.

You can book up to 7 days out at the 11 month window. If it's any time before that, you can book as many days as you want assuming you have the points for it. The only time the 7 days limit is applied is when you're trying to do the 11 month. Like today is 1/11/23, you can book RIGHT NOW 12/11/23 to 12/18/23. You can't grab 12/19 onward because those days have not been opened yet as it is past the 11 month window. HOWEVER, if I were trying to book from 11/11/23 to 11/22/23 and I had the points at my home resort it would let me. You don't need to split anything. It sounds like you can get a fair amount of years worth of usage on your contract so I would recommend resorts that don't have contracts that end in 2042. Unless there's one you particularly enjoy going to.

As people have said, it sounds like you have a lot of research to do still on trying to figure out how this thing works. Feel free to message me directly if you'd like. Also, stop getting advice from your friend .

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

This, I think, is your biggest hurdle at the moment. Literally everything that you were told prior to logging on here is either entirely wrong, or was presented to you in a highly inaccurate manner.

As others have said, step back and spend some time watching some of the better YouTube videos. I would suggest starting with the board sponsor, and sticking with that single source until you have a good comprehension of how the system works. I'd even avoid going to multiple online sources initially, only because even the "experts" have a habit of falling into using jargon that most potential owners are unfamiliar with, or they get a little lazy and make assumptions that they shouldn't (and in turn leave critical info out).

It's frustrating when you are hoping for the correct info. I have links saved and youtube channels saved, but have to watch still over time. FB group told me to come here to ask questions.

 

[RoseGold]

A lot of the DVC inventory is shabby. It's aging (oh poor BW!). It has the worst views, or the old buildings or the bad location. Some of it was just the worst cash inventory flipped into the timeshare.

To me, Poly2 is the reverse of all of that. The best location, the newest building, a tower with the best views. If I were planning to hold for decades, it would be where I am buying.

Maybe the next DVC will be Coronado 2 or Reflections or Yacht Club flip or whatever, but Poly2 is exactly what I would want. Maybe you really love AK, or want the cheapest room, or only want a 3BR or whatever, but I would be looking for Poly2.

 

[DonMacGregor]

To add: I know I didn't answer any of your questions, but I did not because it would just be another possibly confusing response among many, and I don't think you need answers from the boards (you seem to have found out already how wrong Facebook groups can be). Start with the DVC Fan Youtube Channel (board sponsor) and work from there.

I'd also ignore any comments about what resort is good or bad or anything to do with Use Years or when contracts expire. Get comfortable with the basics of how the system works, and you'll find that the remaining questions are much easier to answer and understand.

 

[DonMacGregor]

It's frustrating when you are hoping for the correct info. I have links saved and youtube channels saved, but have to watch still over time. FB group told me to come here to ask questions.

That was good advice as these boards are sponsored by several entities that provide excellent service and information.

 

[MrWonderful]

Beyond the DVCfan videos, spending some time here may help as well.

https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/explore-membership/

 

[davidhr]

It's frustrating when you are hoping for the correct info. I have links saved and youtube channels saved, but have to watch still over time. FB group told me to come here to ask questions.

We’re more than happy to answer your questions. At the end of the day, we love talking about DVC lol

It’s just we believe it’s better if you get the basics from a good source. We’ll need to post a lot of stuff to cover it and I think it’ll get too complicated.

Watch the videos and come back with the questions. We’ll be here waiting.

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

You can book up to 7 days out at the 11 month window. If it's any time before that, you can book as many days as you want assuming you have the points for it. The only time the 7 days limit is applied is when you're trying to do the 11 month. Like today is 1/11/23, you can book RIGHT NOW 12/11/23 to 12/18/23. You can't grab 12/19 onward because those days have not been opened yet as it is past the 11 month window. HOWEVER, if I were trying to book from 11/11/23 to 11/22/23 and I had the points at my home resort it would let me. You don't need to split anything. It sounds like you can get a fair amount of years worth of usage on your contract so I would recommend resorts that don't have contracts that end in 2042. Unless there's one you particularly enjoy going to.

As people have said, it sounds like you have a lot of research to do still on trying to figure out how this thing works. Feel free to message me directly if you'd like. Also, stop getting advice from your friend .

See that is utterly confusing to me - I want to see it in action - know what I mean ? I want someone that owns to show me on the actual site HOW they do this. Reading it to me feels like a bad math word problem, but being hands on will be the lightbulb, and that's why I went to a friend. They said they'd actually show me (but gave me false info on a resale restriction)
We enjoy several different resorts which would make this decision that much more difficult. But yes, I need to go beyond 2042 which sounds like that makes home resort BC or BW a no. (But, correct me if wrong, that doesn't mean I cant ever stay there - it just might not be available since they seem to be pretty popular amongst guests)
I may have to! All the groups and pages becomes info overload

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

Beyond the DVCfan videos, spending some time here may help as well.

https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/explore-membership/

thanks I copies this to my phone notes!!!

 

[DonMacGregor]

We’re more than happy to answer your questions. At the end of the day, we love talking about DVC lol

It’s just we believe it’s better if you get the basics from a good source. We’ll need to post a lot of stuff to cover it and I think it’ll get too complicated.

Watch the videos and come back with the questions. We’ll be here waiting.

This exactly. You'll find yourself losing hours on here (far worse than any YouTube rabbit hole) with all of the great input that's going to be provided to you by many, many board members who'll love to answer any questions.

 

[UberClaire]

Your first step should be a stop at the point charts -- figure out approximately how many points you need/can afford and go from there. AKL isn't a bad purchase if you enjoy staying there, and it has unrestricted points (you can book anywhere at 7 months except Riviera and potentially any new DVC resorts).

 

[DonMacGregor]

See that is utterly confusing to me - I want to see it in action - know what I mean ? I want someone that owns to show me on the actual site HOW they do this. Reading it to me feels like a bad math word problem, but being hands on will be the lightbulb, and that's why I went to a friend. They said they'd actually show me (but gave me false info on a resale restriction)
We enjoy several different resorts which would make this decision that much more difficult. But yes, I need to go beyond 2042 which sounds like that makes home resort BC or BW a no. (But, correct me if wrong, that doesn't mean I cant ever stay there - it just might not be available since they seem to be pretty popular amongst guests)
I may have to! All the groups and pages becomes info overload

Just ignore it and take the step back. You've asked an algebra question, and you're getting calculus answers.

 

[mjmjbelle1023]

A lot of the DVC inventory is shabby. It's aging (oh poor BW!). It has the worst views, or the old buildings or the bad location. Some of it was just the worst cash inventory flipped into the timeshare.

To me, Poly2 is the reverse of all of that. The best location, the newest building, a tower with the best views. If I were planning to hold for decades, it would be where I am buying.

Maybe the next DVC will be Coronado 2 or Reflections or Yacht Club flip or whatever, but Poly2 is exactly what I would want. Maybe you really love AK or whatever, but I would be looking for Poly2.

I am not in love with the rooms at BW or BC -that much I know. Nor am I with AKL BUT the resort itself is just lovely. Is there a a time frame on when this is being sold direct?

 

[intamin]

See that is utterly confusing to me - I want to see it in action - know what I mean ? I want someone that owns to show me on the actual site HOW they do this. Reading it to me feels like a bad math word problem, but being hands on will be the lightbulb, and that's why I went to a friend. They said they'd actually show me (but gave me false info on a resale restriction)
We enjoy several different resorts which would make this decision that much more difficult. But yes, I need to go beyond 2042 which sounds like that makes home resort BC or BW a no. (But, correct me if wrong, that doesn't mean I cant ever stay there - it just might not be available since they seem to be pretty popular amongst guests)
I may have to! All the groups and pages becomes info overload

Long story short, you can book more than 7 days. The only time the 7 day maximum applies is if you’re trying to book as soon as the 11 month window opens.

You’re correct you still can stay in those 2042 resorts without owning points there. All resale contracts will allow you to stay there assuming they’re available at the 7 month mark except Riviera resale.

I honestly think you need to take a step back and watch some more videos. You aren’t understanding us because the basic foundation isn’t there.