Need Help... Looking to Add Points Resale

[sndral]

Given your preferences I’d avoid CCV, other than boating to MK you’ll be busing everywhere else. Since you’re planning on sticking w/ studios I’d also avoid BLT, first you already have the MK area covered & second those BLT studios are small.
That leaves the 2 Epcot IG resorts, both expiring in 2042, which is not ideal w/ your youngish family. Between those two, BWV is bigger & more likely to have 7 month availability but is closer to DHS (how close depends on where your villa is.) BC is much tougher to get because it’s a smaller resort, SAB is the best resort pool.
Personally I’d probably book a BWV stay at 7 months w/ the points you own (may need to up it to a 1 br.) to see if you like staying there & wander over to check out BC. When I was in what I call my ‘acquisition phase’ I thought BWV was a perfect second resort for me, I wanted Epcot IG, I’d stayed cash at the YC several times, BWV resale points were reasonably priced, etc., but staying there I realized it wasn’t for me - much like you thought you’d love AKV, but didn’t (I own & love AKV btw .)
Your issue will be finding a 100 point contract in your use year at a decent price - if you look at the 150 pointers your price per point is far more reasonable, but your buy in would be closer to $15,000 v. the $10,000 you want to spend.

 

[disneydad7281231]

There are a lot of threads on this board with people upset that they can’t use their SAPs at 7m anywhere besides SSR and OKW.

I’m firmly in the “buy where you want to stay” camp and own 110% of the points you think you will need at a single resort to meet your travel goals before branching out to other home resorts.

With that said, my park warrior days are long behind me. Give me the resorts, EPCOT, 1/2 day at AK, and every other park as a hard ticket after hours and I’m a happy camper. Kids feel the same.

Just pulled our next visit. Halloween for 1BR and PIT is limited to 1 night out of 5 and BCV is limited to 4 out of 5 everything else has rooms. 7 month window opened 5 days ago for our trip.

I agree with you though. That is why I was focusing on other resorts because the buy where you want to stay idea. That is why we got PVB in the first place when others were saying SSR for the value.

 

[disneydad7281231]

I remember you, didn't you snag Poly for $110/pt, right before they started buying back all the deals?

$112! A week after we closed they announced PIT was included!

 

[jolynne28]

$112! A week after we closed they announced PIT was included!

I still think about your deal every now and again and how amazing it was!

 

[Brian Noble]

It is basically a place to sleep aside from one rest day that we are at the pool

This is likely to change once you've owned DVC for a bit.

 

[disneydad7281231]

Given your preferences I’d avoid CCV, other than boating to MK you’ll be busing everywhere else. Since you’re planning on sticking w/ studios I’d also avoid BLT, first you already have the MK area covered & second those BLT studios are small.
That leaves the 2 Epcot IG resorts, both expiring in 2042, which is not ideal w/ your youngish family. Between those two, BWV is bigger & more likely to have 7 month availability but is closer to DHS (how close depends on where your villa is.) BC is much tougher to get because it’s a smaller resort, SAB is the best resort pool.
Personally I’d probably book a BWV stay at 7 months w/ the points you own (may need to up it to a 1 br.) to see if you like staying there & wander over to check out BC. When I was in what I call my ‘acquisition phase’ I thought BWV was a perfect second resort for me, I wanted Epcot IG, I’d stayed cash at the YC several times, BWV resale points were reasonably priced, etc., but staying there I realized it wasn’t for me - much like you thought you’d love AKV, but didn’t (I own & love AKV btw .)
Your issue will be finding a 100 point contract in your use year at a decent price - if you look at the 150 pointers your price per point is far more reasonable, but your buy in would be closer to $15,000 v. the $10,000 you want to spend.

This is great input! I appreciate it! I think we would like CCV but it is so hard to get at 7 months (studio) so that and it being economical is the main reasons I was considering it.
I really lean BC or BW to be so close to parks.
I really haven't been worried about doing the same UY. I am Feb so would like Feb, March, April. Most of our trips are June-August October-Jan.
If I went the route of adding SSR I would 100% go same UY but if a deal arises in a different one Id jump on it.

This is likely to change once you've owned DVC for a bit.

Oh it already did! This last trip was the first time I have swam in a Disney pool lol. We have already said that DVC will change us and we will spend more time in the resort, but I don't think it will change us being in the room more.

 

[AstroBlasters]

This is great input! I appreciate it! I think we would like CCV but it is so hard to get at 7 months (studio) so that and it being economical is the main reasons I was considering it.
I really lean BC or BW to be so close to parks.
I really haven't been worried about doing the same UY. I am Feb so would like Feb, March, April. Most of our trips are June-August October-Jan.
If I went the route of adding SSR I would 100% go same UY but if a deal arises in a different one Id jump on it.

Oh it already did! This last trip was the first time I have swam in a Disney pool lol. We have already said that DVC will change us and we will spend more time in the resort, but I don't think it will change us being in the room more.

“but I don't think it will change us being in the room more.”

Not if you stay in studios with a family of 4!

Put a living room, a couple bedrooms, 2-3 bathrooms, and a full kitchen in the mix and all of the sudden we are never not in our room for downtime/a nap between 2-5ish….

 

[disneydad7281231]

“but I don't think it will change us being in the room more.”

Not if you stay in studios with a family of 4!

Put a living room, a couple bedrooms, 2-3 bathrooms, and a full kitchen in the mix and all of the sudden we are never not in our room for downtime/a nap between 2-5ish….

We don't even like taking an hour for a table service meal lol. Kids nap in stroller while DW and I sip on something cold and walk around. I don't disagree that I think we will move to 1BR at some point but I don't think I will ever afford a 2-3.

My intention of this post is right now best option for a small contract to give us more points to cover our 14-18 nights a year with us personally being good with a studio.

 

[tomandrobin]

My advice is always the same.....Buy where you want to stay. Buy resale unless direct is the only option. Buy the same Use Year as your current contracts. If you do all three, you will be happier in the long run.

When you buy resale, don't buy a stripped contract unless the price is heavily discounted. Set a budget before you start putting in offers, that way you won't get carried away in putting in offers.

 

[byurick]

Sounds like BCV or BWV is where your heart is, stop worrying about the 2042 end date and just enjoy the next 17 years of staying where you really want to stay.

 

[Brian Noble]

We have already said that DVC will change us and we will spend more time in the resort, but I don't think it will change us being in the room more.

Don't be so sure, but....

Not if you stay in studios with a family of 4!

...this is one way to guarantee it.

It's hard to explain just how different vacationing in a villa is vs. a studio (aka "glorified hotel room"). When my kids were in the house, we never stayed in a single hotel room for more than about one or maybe two nights. If it was all four of us, we either (a) stayed in a Residence Inn-style hotel with two bedrooms, (b) rented a 2+BR home or condo from e.g. VRBO or AirBnB, or (c) stayed in a 2BR* or larger timeshare unit.

Almost invariably, at some point during the week, my ex and I would be sitting in the living room reading, knitting, etc. while the kids were off doing whatever they were doing in their room(s). One of us would look at the other and say: "Hotel rooms, huh? I mean, I know people do it, but how?"

I can barely bring myself to stay in a studio when it is just two, though I'm going to try it at least once. For Science.

One way to take this: Don't ever EVER stay in a villa. If you do, it will be very hard to go back to studios.

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*: Okay, this isn't quite true. Our first DVC stay was in a 1BR with the kids on the pull-out at OKW. (This was in the days before the sleeper chair.) I was borderline resentful at being relegated to the main bedroom and balcony while they were sleeping, and that was the last time we ever did that with all four of us.

 

[disneydad7281231]

One way to take this: Don't ever EVER stay in a villa. If you do, it will be very hard to go back to studios.

So our last stay was split we have a 1BR at AKV-J and then studio lakeview at PVB.

This included me, DW, my two sons, AND my mother and father in-law. I would say I did what 99% of people couldn't do lol. The 1BR was nice but I like the studio and watching the fireworks from the balcony before bed more.

 

[LittleBitGoofy]

Did you want to do split stays? Or will this add-on be enough for a full stay in studios? As much as I enjoy CCV and BCV, if I was considering a small add-on to extend stays then I'd probably add on where I currently had my main stack. Some folks really do enjoy split stays, but it wasn't smooth for us with two young kids.

And I still can't bring myself to do SSR for SAP. I'd rather pay the extra to get where I want to be. It's still a lot of money even with SSR and if I saved 20% over my preferred resort I'd be bummed that I still spent 80% of what I might have but can't stay where I want.

 

[disneydad7281231]

Did you want to do split stays? Or will this add-on be enough for a full stay in studios? As much as I enjoy CCV and BCV, if I was considering a small add-on to extend stays then I'd probably add on where I currently had my main stack. Some folks really do enjoy split stays, but it wasn't smooth for us with two young kids.

And I still can't bring myself to do SSR for SAP. I'd rather pay the extra to get where I want to be. It's still a lot of money even with SSR and if I saved 20% over my preferred resort I'd be bummed that I still spent 80% of what I might have but can't stay where I want.

We didn't mind the split say and I think it is something we will continue to do.

I would say the main goal is just having more points to cover more trips but also being able to get harder to book studios.

 

[AstroBlasters]

We didn't mind the split say and I think it is something we will continue to do.

I would say the main goal is just having more points to cover more trips but also being able to get harder to book studios.

Based on your follow up responses, I would still say to either add more Poly or BC/BW.

BC/BW also have access to those 2042 points charts and that makes the points go farther.

Poly studios require about 26% more points than BC/BW a night depending on the season.

BW has a lower ppp and more availability for studios, which can be valuable if trying to build in a split stay. You have to assume the Pool/Garden studios are the baseline stay and not the Value or Boardwalk View.

Studio layouts for both are good for a family of 4. Studio layout is actually better than 1BD IMO.

BC obviously has the pool if that’s your thing.

The hard part is going to be that the small contracts can be hard to find and go quickly. May make sense to save up a bit more so you can get a 100pt contract which are easier to find and better ppp.

Perhaps the current uncertainty building in markets and the economy will shake loose some good options for you.

Poly: LOTS of inventory with the lower contract size, great layout for a family of 4 that likes studios, lots of inventory so easy to book, has value in 2042+ if you want to sell.

 

[disneydad7281231]

Based on your follow up responses, I would still say to either add more Poly or BC/BW.

BC/BW also have access to those 2042 points charts and that makes the points go farther.

Poly studios require about 26% more points than BC/BW a night depending on the season.

BW has a lower ppp and more availability for studios, which can be valuable if trying to build in a split stay. You have to assume the Pool/Garden studios are the baseline stay and not the Value or Boardwalk View.

Studio layouts for both are good for a family of 4. Studio layout is actually better than 1BD IMO.

BC obviously has the pool if that’s your thing.

The hard part is going to be that the small contracts can be hard to find and go quickly. May make sense to save up a bit more so you can get a 100pt contract which are easier to find and better ppp.

Perhaps the current uncertainty building in markets and the economy will shake loose some good options for you.

Poly: LOTS of inventory with the lower contract size, great layout for a family of 4 that likes studios, lots of inventory so easy to book, has value in 2042+ if you want to sell.

This is what I am gathering. Realistically for our trips I have looked at tier 4 as a baseline as anything higher we avoid. With that I think we need at least 60pts to BC or BW but I lean BC because of its availability and the pool.

Also thinking 50ish for PVB could be an option.

So I think BC/BW is going to be a waiting game and keeping an eye out for a decent PVB with the same UY to add to existing contract.

 

[AstroBlasters]

This is what I am gathering. Realistically for our trips I have looked at tier 4 as a baseline as anything higher we avoid. With that I think we need at least 60pts to BC or BW but I lean BC because of its availability and the pool.

Also thinking 50ish for PVB could be an option.

So I think BC/BW is going to be a waiting game and keeping an eye out for a decent PVB with the same UY to add to existing contract.

It also might make sense to build up a direct portfolio to get access to the low priced APs if you are going to be traveling to WDW that often.

If you waive the title insurance on the direct purchase the lower overall closing costs might not be as far off as you think on PVB right now.

 

[disneydad7281231]

It also might make sense to build up a direct portfolio to get access to the low priced APs if you are going to be traveling to WDW that often.

If you waive the title insurance on the direct purchase the lower overall closing costs might not be as far off as you think on PVB right now.

Was thinking about this but to get the discounts at 150 points would take a while.

 

[jolynne28]

It's all fun and games until your youngest turns 3 and you have to start buying them tickets and meals. I didn't realize how good we had it back in the day when we were only essentially paying for 1 kid!

If we weren't Florida residents I'd probably run the numbers on direct and Sorcerers Pass savings just to see how it all shakes out. I'm with you that buying direct is a huge chunk up front compared to resale, but it might end up saving you money in the long run. I'd also hold out and see what the next round of incentives looks like.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Was thinking about this but to get the discounts at 150 points would take a while.

True, but it is nice they let you add in increments of as low as 25 points. So if you want to spend $10k all in and start the process you can get at least 41 points now…. maybe a few more if you waive title.

That’ll get you two more weekday nights.

It’s worth running the math.

if you go beach club resale at get $130pp (hopefully not stripped) then that would get around 70 points and 3 nights…. if you can find that contract.

Or you can always go SSR and gamble… but likely won’t often have access to studios at BC/BW.

Another nice thing about direct Poly is that you might have access to BC/BW 2.0 in 2042+… but with a higher point chart.