Neck surgery for herniated disc

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My dh just found out today that he has a "significant herniation" of the disc at C6-7. We don't know yet if surgery is emminent, but I wanted to hear experiences from anyone that has had surgery on their neck. What kind of procedure did you have, how long did it take for you to recouperate? We just don't know what to expect when we go to the neurosurgeon. What questions should we ask? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks so much!
 
My dh just found out today that he has a "significant herniation" of the disc at C6-7. We don't know yet if surgery is emminent, but I wanted to hear experiences from anyone that has had surgery on their neck. What kind of procedure did you have, how long did it take for you to recouperate? We just don't know what to expect when we go to the neurosurgeon. What questions should we ask? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks so much!

I had a cervical laminectomy and discectomy in January 2009 using a posterior approach. The Dr. said that I was just at the cut off from needing to have an anterior approach done due to the fact that he only does a posterior approach until about age 45. I was 48 at the time, but in good health with good muscle tone. From what I was told, a posterior approach is easier for the patient, but more technically difficult for the surgeon. Anterior approach, the patient must wear a C-collar post-op which is not required with a posterior approach.

I had a second opinion with a surgeon I trust in a health system where DH and I used to work. He concurred with the recommendations. I had at that time suffered to episodes of right arm radiculopathy and had weakness developing in my right hand. The pain was unbearable, I was unable to sleep until absolutely exhausted, and non-steroidal medication did not help. The first episode, a year earlier, was resolved by a nerve root injection but we never got an MRI to diagnose the herniated disc until the second episode of arm pain. The C5-C6 disc looked like a speed bump, but the one below it looked like a Mickey Mouse ear. :earsboy: After surgery, the surgeon said it was the largest herniation he had ever seen in 25 years of practice.

The surgery itself was 5 and 1/2 hours, in a prone position (face down) so there was marked facial edema and the pain from the sore throat (caused by swelling around the tube from being face down) was the absolute worst. It woke me up every time I swallowed for the first 3 days unless I was zonked with pain meds. I also remember my head hurting from the cervical tongs placed into my skull so that my head could be stabilized in mid-air during the surgery. Once those things resolved, the only pain was extreme muscle soreness of the neck. I was unable to turn my head for at least 3 weeks, having to turn my whole body in order to look behind me. It was not what I would consider a "painful" surgery. I only took narcotics for about 3 days and switched to non-steroidals. Unfortunately, from the steroids I took during the pre-op phase trying to reduce the pain and all the non-steroidals prescribed, I developed a severe gastritis that still bothers me on and off to this day.

The hospital stay was just under 48 hours during which DH was there the entire time. They let me go home early because DH is a CRNA and I am an RN and I think they felt we were capable of managing at home. The usual stay is 3 days. My Dh was with me at home continually for the first week. No driving for the first 2 weeks and I couldn't lift anything heavier than 5 pounds for 8 weeks, including my purse or a gallon of milk. That also meant no housework, grocery shopping or childcare to speak of. For the first 4-6 weeks, I was still napping during the day. The surgery took a lot out of me, absolutely exhausting! I tell people I would have something like that again if I absolutely had to, but hope I never have to go there again.

That said, I had wonderful results. I have absolutely no symptoms any longer and have full strength in my right hand. I am careful to not aggravate my neck, no heavy lifting, no roller coasters, no bungee jumping, etc... It was the best option for me.

For peace of mind, I would get a second opinion from a surgeon not affiliated in any way with the first, even if you have to pay out of pocket for it . I would ask both surgeons if surgery is their recommendation. I would ask the second surgeon if they would hesitate to have the procedure done by the first surgeon or at the facility the first surgeon is going to use. My second opinion surgeon told me that if I were his wife, he would tell her to have the surgery. Ask about infection rates. I would make sure I have enough support to get through the initial post op period. If you have children that need transported back and forth to activities, get that covered. Your Dh will need attendance in the shower the first couple days, all of his meals fixed and his medications managed. You will be busy. All of his responsibilities for lawn care and any household chores will need to be done by someone else. I was cleared to walk the track at the Rec Center after my 2 week visit, but only returned to physical activity after my 8 week post op visit. During the first couple weeks of track walking, my DH had to go with me because I couldn't turn my head and I was fearful of getting run into by the joggers. I wasn't able to go anywhere by myself for the first 8 weeks or so because of the potential of falling on the ice, remember it was winter in Michigan.

Best of luck to you and DH. I hope you get good news. If you have any other questions, let me know.
 
A friend of mine had neck surgery about 6 months ago. Recovery was somewhat slow, about 3 months before she could go back to work. She said it wasn't as painful as she thought it would be but it wasn't pain free either. NOW that she is 6 months out of it she said it was the best thing she has done. She was in constant pain before, lots of headaches, etc. and they are all gone.
 
Thank you so much for your replies. This has just been a horrible ordeal for us. DH is a police officer and this resulted from him getting hit by a drug dealers car back in July. He is covered under workers comp which is great. We are awaiting a call from the neurosurgeons office telling us when to come in. He is in so much pain it hurts to look at him. He has lost all strength in his right arm. The pain meds aren't working so sleeping at night for him is extremely restless which in turn makes it difficult for me to sleep. UGH! I just want to scream! I have no FMLA or sick leave left to take care of him because I exhausted it all 5 months ago when I had a baby.

Sitting here waiting for a phone call is just killing me! Ring darn it Ring!!!!!

OMG! I want to cry! The earliest the neurosurgeon can see him is Wednesday. He'll never make it!
 

Thank you so much for your replies. This has just been a horrible ordeal for us. DH is a police officer and this resulted from him getting hit by a drug dealers car back in July. He is covered under workers comp which is great. We are awaiting a call from the neurosurgeons office telling us when to come in. He is in so much pain it hurts to look at him. He has lost all strength in his right arm. The pain meds aren't working so sleeping at night for him is extremely restless which in turn makes it difficult for me to sleep. UGH! I just want to scream! I have no FMLA or sick leave left to take care of him because I exhausted it all 5 months ago when I had a baby.

Sitting here waiting for a phone call is just killing me! Ring darn it Ring!!!!!

If you are waiting on follow up phone call from yesterday or before, please call them. Things fall through the cracks and the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Sounds like he needs something other than what he's been doing. Better call in your resources, you guys are going to need help, especially with a new baby around. Good luck and let us know how things are going.
 
Just got off of the phone with our Risk Management person and they said since he can't be seen until Wednesday to take him to the Emergency Room
 
Just got off of the phone with our Risk Management person and they said since he can't be seen until Wednesday to take him to the Emergency Room

Sometimes if your regular doctor calls they can get you in sooner....
 
I had a pretty bad herniated disc 4 years ago. I was in so much pain! I couldn't sleep at all and my right arm became weak. I had to have an MRI but I couldn't lay down at all so they had to sedate me to do it. I remember that being just awful. I got very lucky, though. Once it was diagnosed they sent me to a surgeon who was participating in a clinical trial for an artificial disc. The trial followed both people who received the artificial disc and those who had traditional surgery, so as a patient I didn't know which surgery I would have until afte I woke up from it. I was so relieved to find out I had been selected to receive the disc.

The surgery lasted maybe 3 hours and I only stayed 1 night in the hospital. My recovery time was really quick too, as I was back to "normal" within about a month. The main thing I remember was waking up after the surgery to absolutely no pain. My surgeon happened to be there and I remember saying to him, "Hey look at me - I'm actually laying down!" Since I'm still part of the trial, I've had to go back in at regular intervals (every 3 months for the first year, then at 18 months and 2 years, then annually after that) and everything is looking great.

The device is still awating FDA approval but since the study has been going on for 6 years they're hoping to have it by the end of the year. But the clinical trial is still going on and I think they are still accepting new participants. So it would be worth asking your husband's surgeon if they are participating the trial or if there is someone in your area who is.
 
In early 2007 I had the newer approach to the discectomy where they use a long tube and needle that is put in from the front and some of the middle of the disc is withdrawn to relieve the pressure. It does help to have a long long neck though to get as far as the 6/7 disc. They did it on my 5/6 disc and 'just' had enough room to get to it. They also keep you on the ct scan type machine to see as they are inserting the tube and needle.
The procedure only took about two hours I think. They also keep you on a partial block so they can wake you up while doing it to see how you are.

By that afternoon the change was amazing! I went back to the hotel room immediately after I recovered from the anesthesia and came home the next day.

Tell your husband good luck too!

Kim
 
These alternative surgeries depend on the severity and location of the herniation. The Dr. giving us the second opinion initially had a completely different surgical plan than the one we were going with and further along in the conversation DH and I realized he hadn't taken a close enough look at the MRI. He went back and reviewed it again and agreed with the approach the surgeon had planned. My herniation was at 5 o'clock (if your spine is 6 o'clock and the adam's apple is 12 o'clock) and the surgery I had was the only one appropriate for my herniation.

I can't believe they think your DH can wait until Wednesday with that kind of pain. :sad2: Hope he gets relief soon. :hug:
 
For all of you that have had the surgery did you try any kind of physical therapy or cortizone shots first?

Also, once you had the surgery, do you have any limitations to your life now?

I still haven't been able to get him in to a neuro before Wednesday. I did take him to a Orthopedic spine Dr today and he basically dismissed us once he found out that dh was seeing a neuro on Wednesday. the whole tone of the consultation took a different tone. He didn't even pull up the MRI to look at it, only the report. He told dh that he could give him a shot and send him home with some neck muscle strengthing exercises. It didn't seem to matter what dh said about how much pain he was in the Dr just seemed to not hear anything he was saying. It was very bizzare.

I really hope that the next Dr he sees takes her time and explains everything to him and gives him her opinion on what she thinks in her opinion would be the most effective treatment.

I never thought this would take such a toll on our family, but it has. I am very thankful that my parents are close by that they can take my 5mo over night while I am at work.

Thanks for listening and answering questions.
 
I had/have a herniated disk in my neck. Just 5 weeks ago, it was so bad that I was taken by ambulance to the hospital...that is when I found out about the herniation. I could not move without being in screaming pain...worst pain in all my life. I was upset because, on top of the pain, I was 3 weeks away from going on a cross country road trip with my family...over 6000 miles (I am typing as my DH is driving us home). I went to a chiropractor and did physical therapy. I am already sooooo much better. I will continue with both when I get home, but my neck did not give me any problems on this trip....remarkable considering how bad I was just a short time ago.

Jess
 
I had a discectomy of L5-S1 a year and a half ago. Severe herniation...surgeon said worst he'd ever seen. I made a full recovery in about 9+ months. Surgery was the best thing I ever did. IO was in unlivable agony right up until they knocked me out.
 
Did you end up taking him to emergency? Sorry to say this but he is getting into the neurosurgeon in a week and not 2-3 months, so that's very quick. What kind of treatment has he been getting since July? Where is the pain?Has anyone tested his reflexes? Is he dropping things or stumbling when he walks? Did anyone give you things to watchout for that would be considered an emergency? Has he tried any nerve pain meds like neurontin or lyrica?

Sorry for the number of questions. I have had 2 back surgeries and 1 neck surgery. All due to work injuries. I take neurontin for pain/tingling in my arm.

From my research, with neck issues the more severe issue is myelopathy which is caused by something placing pressure on the spinal cord. This will cause your reflexes to do funny things, then dropping things, then eventually stumbling and falling. Having a disc herniated does NOT necessarily mean you have myelopathy.

Does the dr who ordered the MRI know the pain meds aren't helping? If the pain is that bad take him to emergency. With him being a police officer, hopefully they won't think he is a drug seeker.

You could try heat or ice. Do you have a recliner he could try to sleep in? I found sitting in a chair where I had support for my head and neck was helpful.

Having a surgery is different for each person and there are many kinds of surgery.....fusion,laminectomy, artificial disk replacement are a few and can be from the front or the back. Recovery could be quick and easy or not. They could want to try pt or injections. Surgery is not a small step and you can hear from hundreds of people that it was easy, quick recovery, no lasting effects ect....but there are many risks. Listen to the neurosurgeon. Are you going to the appt? Bring paper to take notes.

There is a website that I have found to be very informative and there are boards like this there as well
Spine-health.com (there is info on this site for questions to ask the surgeon)

If you start having issues with comp there are 2 message boards where you can get info
workerscompensation.com
workerscompensationinsurance.com (this one has issues by state which is helpful)

I hope his pain can get under control.
 
I can't offer any advice since my neck injury is inoperable, so I am sending him tons of soothing thoughts of painfree days :hippie::hippie:, this one covers it, since, sending him hugs feel "off",

but for you :hug::flower3:, and hopefully a good nights sleep. Don't forget to take care of yourself. That is the best you can do for him!
 
I know nothing about spinal surgery, but I came across a company that has developed a bunch of non-invasive spinal surgery techniques. I was looking into this for a friend. Haven't looked real deep into it, but it sure sounds better than the more invasive procedures that have long recovery periods.

Hope things work out wel for you!

http://www.joimaxusa.com/
 
Did you end up taking him to emergency? No, he kept the brave face and kept saying he could make it. I think his stupid pride was getting in the way believe it or not. Sorry to say this but he is getting into the neurosurgeon in a week and not 2-3 months, so that's very quick that's what I am coming to understand. What kind of treatment has he been getting since July? this didn't really flare until 3 weeks ago. since then the Dr that the city sent him to only did x-rays and since he found nothing treated it as muscle spasms at the nerve root and sent him home with a home traction unit. Where is the pain? it started with what he described as someone stabbing him in his back to the right side of his neck. it has since progressed to pain in his shoulder, under his arm in his pit and around now to his chest. Has anyone tested his reflexes? No, not even the Ortho he saw today. Is he dropping things or stumbling when he walks? No, and he's not lifting anything with his right arm because of the weakness Did anyone give you things to watchout for that would be considered an emergency? NO Has he tried any nerve pain meds like neurontin or lyrica? The original Dr that finally thought it was spasms sent him for the MRI. When he discovered the herniation he put him on a pain pill called Nusyntin or something like that. They weren't working too well so the Dr switched him to percocet which didn't work at all so he just upped his dosage of the Nusyntin.

Sorry for the number of questions. I have had 2 back surgeries and 1 neck surgery. All due to work injuries. I take neurontin for pain/tingling in my arm.

From my research, with neck issues the more severe issue is myelopathy which is caused by something placing pressure on the spinal cord. This will cause your reflexes to do funny things, then dropping things, then eventually stumbling and falling. Having a disc herniated does NOT necessarily mean you have myelopathy.

Does the dr who ordered the MRI know the pain meds aren't helping? Yes and he's not willing to do anything else at this time. If the pain is that bad take him to emergency. With him being a police officer, hopefully they won't think he is a drug seeker.

You could try heat or ice. Do you have a recliner he could try to sleep in? We do, but he finds bed more comfortable. I found sitting in a chair where I had support for my head and neck was helpful.

Having a surgery is different for each person and there are many kinds of surgery.....fusion,laminectomy, artificial disk replacement are a few and can be from the front or the back. Recovery could be quick and easy or not. They could want to try pt or injections. Surgery is not a small step and you can hear from hundreds of people that it was easy, quick recovery, no lasting effects ect....but there are many risks. Listen to the neurosurgeon. Are you going to the appt? ABSOLUTELY! Bring paper to take notes.

There is a website that I have found to be very informative and there are boards like this there as well
Spine-health.com (there is info on this site for questions to ask the surgeon)

If you start having issues with comp there are 2 message boards where you can get info
workerscompensation.com
workerscompensationinsurance.com (this one has issues by state which is helpful)

I hope his pain can get under control.

Thanks for the links. He's been researching as much as he can so he can be prepared for the Dr and know what she is talking about.
 
I had/have a herniated disk in my neck. Just 5 weeks ago, it was so bad that I was taken by ambulance to the hospital...that is when I found out about the herniation. I could not move without being in screaming pain...worst pain in all my life. I was upset because, on top of the pain, I was 3 weeks away from going on a cross country road trip with my family...over 6000 miles (I am typing as my DH is driving us home). I went to a chiropractor and did physical therapy. I am already sooooo much better. I will continue with both when I get home, but my neck did not give me any problems on this trip....remarkable considering how bad I was just a short time ago.

Jess

That's fantastic! Unfortunately, I couldn't get him to go to a chiropractor if you paid him. For another type of injury to his back - maybe, but not for a neck injury.
 
I can't offer any advice since my neck injury is inoperable, so I am sending him tons of soothing thoughts of painfree days :hippie::hippie:, this one covers it, since, sending him hugs feel "off",

but for you :hug::flower3:, and hopefully a good nights sleep. Don't forget to take care of yourself. That is the best you can do for him!

haha! I tried to hug him the other day and made him scream....oops. Won't be doing that anytime soon.
 
I'm glad you responded.

Read up on the comp rules for your state and find out when/if there is a point where you can choose your own dr.....if it is not surgical the neurosurgeon may not keep seeing him. Have him call the union and see if they can recommend someone, or call your regular dr.

If the surgeon says surgery, comp may not agree and they could say no. If they start to give you a hassle consider getting a workers comp attorney.

Get a second opinion. Research neurosurgeons in your area and if you need a referal for a second opinion, ask for a specific person. Ask relatives, friends and coworkers if your comfortable.

This may sound weird, but see if he feels better with his arm up....have him try to rest it on top of his head. If it doesn't feel better no need to keep trying it.

It's great you are being so supportive, he will need it.
 







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