NBA playoffs - Who ya got?

[lisaviolet]

This is big.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650581195137097745

Just hate injuries. You want to see healthy teams compete.

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It has been so very frustrating with the Clippers..

 

[BrianL]

I'd love to be seeing the Grizz making a run, but I'm not hopeful at this point.

 

[lisaviolet]

@bcla , I need something explained.

The other night Kerr explained why he brought Draymond off the bench. And he said it was about spacing issues. I understand what spacing is in basketball but do not have a clue what it meant with Draymond. Did he mean with zone defense? I was lost.
Since I have never played can you explain that for me? Thank you.

 

[lisaviolet]

I'd love to be seeing the Grizz making a run, but I'm not hopeful at this point.

They really put it out there.

Those Russell buckets were a killer. It certainly was the game to take.

 

[bcla]

Just hate injuries. You want to see healthy teams compete.

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It has been very frustrating with the Clippers..

It was barely a blip too. The whistle blew, the play was dead, but Fox continued since you never know what might happen with "continuation". Looney tried to block the attempt and missed. Even if it were live, it wouldn't have been considered a foul because he only got the hand in his follow through.

 

[bcla]

A fight broke out at a watch party in Sacramento at their arena. It sound rather bold for a Warriors fan to attend. There are a lot of Warriors fans in Sacramento though - especially Bay Area transplants as well as people who jumped on the bandwagon when the Warriors did well.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650359218590081026

 

[bcla]

I saw the score for Hawks-Celtics game 5 and it seemed pretty locked up but I saw a replay of the wild finish.

 

[disneychrista]

In a perfect world the Warriors will win tonight and bring it home to win the series.

 

[bcla]

So just as aside, the Hawks winning forced the postponement of a Janet Jackson concert in Atlanta. I suppose shades of the Warriors in 1975 where they played all their home games at the Cow Palace because the Oakland Coliseum Arena was already booked for the Ice Follies.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/20...game-6-playoffs-celtics-janet-jackson-concert

 

[tvguy]

A fight broke out at a watch party in Sacramento at their arena. It sound rather bold for a Warriors fan to attend. There are a lot of Warriors fans in Sacramento though - especially Bay Area transplants as well as people who jumped on the bandwagon when the Warriors did well.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650359218590081026

And a lot of adults grew up with the Warriors as the "home" team in Sacramento. Remember, the Kings didn't move here until 1985.

 

[bcla]

And a lot of adults grew up with the Warriors as the "home" team in Sacramento. Remember, the Kings didn't move here until 1985.

I've heard of that sort of thing. We had a couple of sports radio hosts for a few years that were (more or less) from the Bay Area but cut their teeth in Sacramento - Mark Kreidler and Whitey Gleason. One of them was talking about how his kids handled the rise of the Warriors even though he still lived in Davis where the Kings were still popular even though the Warriors were clearly ascending. I think the kids were actively resisting even though their dad was working in the Bay Area market.

I randomly went to a Giants game once and sat next to a father and son from the Phoenix area where the opponent was the D-Backs. The kid was clearly a D-Backs fan but dad said he grew up in the area where baseball fans developed rooting interests for specific teams that came there for spring training.

I've been to Arco Arena a few times and frankly it was sad even when it was reasonably new. It felt flimsy.

And I'm old enough to remember the Kansas City Kings.

 

[tvguy]

I've been to Arco Arena a few times and frankly it was sad even when it was reasonably new. It felt flimsy.

I have heard that comment which was amusing given how much trouble it gave the demo crew when they tore it down. The wrecking ball literally bounced off.

 

[bcla]

I have heard that comment which was amusing given how much trouble it gave the demo crew when they tore it down. The wrecking ball literally bounced off.

I wasn't thinking of the building, but the times I've been there it was always in the lower bowl. That area just felt flimsy. I know it was built to have that area taken out for events needing a larger footprint, but I've been to similar "temporary" seating in other arenas where it just felt more "professional". For decades Arco Arena's lower bowl felt like it was temporary where you'd hope they could afford something better in the future.

I found a photo from the lower bowl. It's a lot of unfinished plywood and industrial-looking steel plate, and that's what it looked like from the time it was built until it was demolished. And the seats were horrible. I've been to other indoor arenas that hosted NBA and/or NHL teams, and they always had padded seats like you'd find in a movie theater. But not Arco Arena. Often the seats weren't securely bolted and moved way too much. This photo shows that the seat is a little bit loose when it should be well tightened to the plywood.

 

[tvguy]

I wasn't thinking of the building, but the times I've been there it was always in the lower bowl. That area just felt flimsy. I know it was built to have that area taken out for events needing a larger footprint, but I've been to similar "temporary" seating in other arenas where it just felt more "professional". For decades Arco Arena's lower bowl felt like it was temporary where you'd hope they could afford something better in the future.

I found a photo from the lower bowl. It's a lot of unfinished plywood and industrial-looking steel plate, and that's what it looked like from the time it was built until it was demolished. And the seats were horrible. I've been to other indoor arenas that hosted NBA and/or NHL teams, and they always had padded seats like you'd find in a movie theater. But not Arco Arena. Often the seats weren't securely bolted and moved way too much. This photo shows that the seat is a little bit loose when it should be well tightened to the plywood.

Never been to a stadium or arena that wasn't set up like that for easy conversion to other uses. I'm an A's fan and lord knows that stadium has lots of plywood at the lower levels where seats are moved in and out. Oracle is the same.

 

[bcla]

Never been to a stadium or arena that wasn't set up like that for easy conversion to other uses. I'm an A's fan and lord knows that stadium has lots of plywood at the lower levels where seats are moved in and out. Oracle is the same.

I've been to games at the Oakland Coliseum near the edge where the temporary seating was and it wasn't unfinished plywood. The lower temporary stands for football games was aluminum. I remember sitting several times in the lower bowl in Oakland at the old arena, and most was permanent concrete where temporary seating only started in the lowest rows. You can see that here with where the concrete stairs end and temporary seating begins. The temporary areas that can pull out (like for a circus/rodeo/ice configuration) are aluminum and not plywood. The temporary stairs are black with metal edges certainly not unfinished plywood.

This has a better view.

But I get it. Arco Arena cost $39 million to build. That was cheap even in 1987. This blog post mentions it. But I think many loved it because it was a place for the plucky underdog.

https://itinerantfan.com/venues-past-what-watching-a-game-at-arco-arena-was-like/​

It was built on the cheap and located in an isolated part of the Sacramento metro area. Both of those factors played deeply into what the overall fan experience was like there, and if you never saw a game at Arco Arena, you’d be right to assume that it was both lacking in amenities and surprisingly difficult to get to.​

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I lived in Sacramento for five years — a timeframe that coincides with the birth of this blog in 2010 — and attended about a dozen events at Arco Arena during that time, ranging from Kings games to concerts and even a college graduation.​

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My feelings about Arco are similar to how many fans feel about old sports venues: Kinda dumpy, had more than a few flaws, but when you get right down to it, the place was all right.​

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Definitely one of the positives Arco/Sleep Train Arena had going for it was that it was a basketball-only facility — no extra length needed to accommodate hockey games — and the seating bowl was set up that way, so wherever you sat, you had a pretty good sight line toward the court.​

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The bad news was the seats were basically an afterthought, not unlike sitting in a metal folding chair the whole game. Not comfortable at all.​

That guy has a photo of the place and it's clear that the entire lower bowl seating area is constructed of plywood. I guess it could be worse. I went to Long Beach Arena for an event and the lower seating area was built with scaffolding like you'd see in temporary outdoor seating. Or Stanford Stadium when it was almost all wood seating and walkways built on a berm. If I dropped a water bottle there was a chance it could roll all the way down. But here's Arco Arena. But in seats that were expensive, it was more like thin, hard outdoor seats that may or may not be securely bolted down.

 

[tvguy]

I've been to games at the Oakland Coliseum near the edge where the temporary seating was and it wasn't unfinished plywood. The lower temporary stands for football games was aluminum. I remember sitting several times in the lower bowl in Oakland at the old arena, and most was permanent concrete where temporary seating only started in the lowest rows. You can see that here with where the concrete stairs end and temporary seating begins. The temporary areas that can pull out (like for a circus/rodeo/ice configuration) are aluminum and not plywood. The temporary stairs are black with metal edges certainly not unfinished plywood.

This has a better view.

But I get it. Arco Arena cost $39 million to build. That was cheap even in 1987. This blog post mentions it. But I think many loved it because it was a place for the plucky underdog.

https://itinerantfan.com/venues-past-what-watching-a-game-at-arco-arena-was-like/​

It was built on the cheap and located in an isolated part of the Sacramento metro area. Both of those factors played deeply into what the overall fan experience was like there, and if you never saw a game at Arco Arena, you’d be right to assume that it was both lacking in amenities and surprisingly difficult to get to.​

​

I lived in Sacramento for five years — a timeframe that coincides with the birth of this blog in 2010 — and attended about a dozen events at Arco Arena during that time, ranging from Kings games to concerts and even a college graduation.​

​

My feelings about Arco are similar to how many fans feel about old sports venues: Kinda dumpy, had more than a few flaws, but when you get right down to it, the place was all right.​

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Definitely one of the positives Arco/Sleep Train Arena had going for it was that it was a basketball-only facility — no extra length needed to accommodate hockey games — and the seating bowl was set up that way, so wherever you sat, you had a pretty good sight line toward the court.​

​

The bad news was the seats were basically an afterthought, not unlike sitting in a metal folding chair the whole game. Not comfortable at all.​

That guy has a photo of the place and it's clear that the entire lower bowl seating area is constructed of plywood. I guess it could be worse. I went to Long Beach Arena for an event and the lower seating area was built with scaffolding like you'd see in temporary outdoor seating. Or Stanford Stadium when it was almost all wood seating and walkways built on a berm. If I dropped a water bottle there was a chance it could roll all the way down. But here's Arco Arena. But in seats that were expensive, it was more like thin, hard outdoor seats that may or may not be securely bolted down.

I never pay much attention to the venue. I'm there for the event.

 

[bcla]

I never pay much attention to the venue. I'm there for the event.

Never went to the original Arco arena? It was small, meant to be temporary, and was converted to an office building.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I'd love to be seeing the Grizz making a run, but I'm not hopeful at this point.

The Grizz run their mouths constantly. Does that count?

 

[tvguy]

Never went to the original Arco arena? It was small, meant to be temporary, and was converted to an office building.

Yes. Loved it.

 

[lisaviolet]

Behind.

So annoyed with two early & two late on Wednesday, NBA. It takes great skill just to keep one of our apps running. And of all the games!

My pick is stupidly late but I will go with Warriors taking it all again. As Stephen A. just noted, Kerr is a strong factor.

Their competition from the East, no flippin' clue.