Navy Seal Chases Down the Killers of his dog.

[Scornelius]

Right and wrong aside, my heart is just broken for this man. The PTSD is obvious, and to lose his therapy dog in such a manner really tears me up. My 23 year old cousin is currently at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre, after his 3rd tour in Iraq. He's physically broken, but the PTSD is going to take so much longer, and so much more therapy than the visible wounds. I wish this man, and all troops, nothing but peace. Ugh, now I'm crying.

 

[AZMickeyfans]

Part of the SEAL training is going to driving schools learning to do what he did but in crowded city streets maneuvering and pursuing another car. He knew exactly what he was doing and was trained to drive at 100 mph. This wasn't me or some wild idiot out there driving when I rarely go over 70 on the freeway. If he's trained to do these sorts of things through the streets I trust him on rural county roads at night.

If you want to be scared of someone be scared of the inexperienced guys traveling at 100mph in the first place. Why do we place the blame on the victims??? I hope those guys get the maximum sentence possible. Our state takes killing dogs very serious because as said before it usually leads to humans later in life and Marcus' dog was not the first they had killed.

God Bless you Marcus. Dasy will be missed, sleep easy.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

All I can say is when did you get your police training. We have police to this sort of thing. If anyone other then this "well known" solider did this they would have been in jail too.

The reason I pay taxes is for the police to get the crazyies. He could have called in the plate number and went home.

If I were a betting gal, I'd wager that if it were anyone other than a highly decorated soldier who went this far above and beyond to catch animal killing criminals certain posters concerned for the imaginary innocent children on the streets at 3am would be his biggest cheerleader.

 

[Disney Doll]

OK, fair enough. But I wish you would answer the question. If the guy in this 110 mph chase across three counties hit your husband and killed him, how would you like it handled?

I'd have been pissed...probably more at the thugs than at Marcus. Being an animal lover, I'd like to think that there would have been part of me that understood what he was doing. I'd have been really pissed at the thugs who put him into the position to have to do that. I certainly would not want Marcus to go to jail. I'd have no problem pulling the lever for the electric chair for the thugs however.

Maybe not quite the answer you expected, but I am starting to feel like we have to take the country back from the bad guys.

Ok, I answered your "what if" question. Now you answer mine.

 

[DawnCt1]

ok I went to find the link that showed the time, and can't find it now, but know that it was late, it was after dark. If I can find the time again, I'll post the link.

Also, she was not just a dog, she was his therapy dog; the cost to train her and the bond they shared was extensive.

Go to Glenn Beck's website. I am sure he still has the 911 call posted. It is so measured, and so controlled, and 2 am. No one was on the road. He was giving the police a detailed account of where he was, minute by minute, asking for help. It is an impressive 911 call. He was respectful the entire time, "yes ma'am, no ma'am", etc. He was actually late to Glenn Beck's office because he had to finish his chores. He is wonderful to his mother.

 

[TiggerCat]

I have a feeling that we would have a few less thugs on the streets, and a few less pirates on the high seas, if people didn't stand around saying "what if".

Absolutely! There are alot of arm chair quarterbacks who want to twist every situation to fit their own way of thinking. I think that we need to stay focused on who the real criminals were in this situation. I know that the lack of charges against Mr. Luttrel shows that the individuals responsible for upholding the law didn't think he did anything wrong.

My opinion, Mr Luttrel displayed amazing self restraint by not shooting this scum when he had the chance. Further, his good judgement in continuing the chase likely saved other animals, and perhaps even people. Not sure exactly what I would have done but I do believe that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

TC.

 

[wvdisluv2]

What incredible restraint this man showed....MY OPINION....(which I am entitled to ) These men (and I use that term "loosely") are lucky to be alive. If this had been my dog...I can't say what I would have done.

 

[TCPluto]

OK, fair enough. But I wish you would answer the question. If the guy in this 110 mph chase across three counties hit your husband and killed him, how would you like it handled?

The answer is most everyone of these defenders would be screaming for their lives (those in the chase), at least their freedom.

If a police officer had done this in an unmarked car, he'd likely lose his job. If a police officer was in this chase and a tragedy had result from the chase, many these same posters would be screaming for the officers to be criminally charged. If a police officer had been in a fully marked police car with lights and sirens and a tragedy occurred, certain posters would carrying on just the same.

Let's not forget, there were two vehicles travelling at this high rate of speed. The one chasing, and the one being chased. If it wasn't for the chase car, the bad guys wouldn't be fleeing at such dangerous speeds.

The ends do not justify the means in this case. Luckily, no one was injured. And this is in no way meant to diminsh the Hero that Marcus Latrell is. It was a horrible decision that worked out in the end.

 

[TCPluto]

If he hit anyone while chasing them he would be responsible and pay the price. If a police officer is chasing someone and they hit another car they are responsible.

Exactly. And even if the bad guy hits someone, nevermind the police, the police officers are still held liable in a civil action. And the police are specifically trained, have vehicle sppecifically equipped for the task, and are required to have lights and sirens. None of the vehicles in the presnet case had any of that.

And then we'd be having the discussion about a dead family, killed because of the actions of the police who were chasing someone who killed a dog.

 

[TCPluto]

Part of the SEAL training is going to driving schools learning to do what he did but in crowded city streets maneuvering and pursuing another car. He knew exactly what he was doing and was trained to drive at 100 mph. This wasn't me or some wild idiot out there driving when I rarely go over 70 on the freeway. If he's trained to do these sorts of things through the streets I trust him on rural county roads at night.

If you want to be scared of someone be scared of the inexperienced guys traveling at 100mph in the first place. Why do we place the blame on the victims??? I hope those guys get the maximum sentence possible. Our state takes killing dogs very serious because as said before it usually leads to humans later in life and Marcus' dog was not the first they had killed.

God Bless you Marcus. Dasy will be missed, sleep easy.

I doubt this. Did they also teach him to talk on the phone at the same time?

Without the lights and sirens that police officers are required to use, how can you possibly justify this? If you think it through rationally, you can't.

 

[DawnCt1]

Absolutely! There are alot of arm chair quarterbacks who want to twist every situation to fit their own way of thinking. I think that we need to stay focused on who the real criminals were in this situation. I know that the lack of charges against Mr. Luttrel shows that the individuals responsible for upholding the law didn't think he did anything wrong.

My opinion, Mr Luttrel displayed amazing self restraint by not shooting this scum when he had the chance. Further, his good judgement in continuing the chase likely saved other animals, and perhaps even people. Not sure exactly what I would have done but I do believe that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

TC.

And the bolded part cuts right to the "chase". It is indeed time to take this country back! Thank you Marcus!

 

[TCPluto]

Marcus was such an honorable young man that he told the dispatcher how fast he was traveling. The Gov. of Texas was on TV yesterday and he promises to prosecute the shooters to the full extent of the law, and in Texas, what they did was a felony. He didn't mention a word about prosecuting Marcus however.

Prosecuting a war hero in the throws of PTSD is just bad publicity.

Doesn't make what he did right, not a bit.

 

[DawnCt1]

Prosecuting a war hero in the throws of PTSD is just bad publicity.

Doesn't make what he did right, not a bit.

He was willing to accept the consequences, being quite open about his speed, to do the right thing. There were no consequences. Based on the posts here, most support him on this board in and IRL.

 

[TCPluto]

He was willing to accept the consequences, being quite open about his speed, to do the right thing. There were no consequences. Based on the posts here, most support him on this board in and IRL.

What Latrell was willing to do has absolutely nothing to do with this.

It's the prosecutor's decisoon, the elected prosecutor. Not charging Latrell is a no brianer politically.

He is a hero, no doubt. But a hero who made a horrible decision in the instant case. Police officers have to consider the possible results of their actions. Chasing these guys in an unmarked car would not have happened, nor should it have happened.

It's called risk management.

 

[Cool-Beans]

What if someone got hurt? Then I'd be even more angry with the vicious punks who shot the dog and ran like little girls.

While I wouldn't justify a car chase over some pot or a speeding ticket, I do justify this. You can't start letting the bad guys go because we can't chase them, for Pete's sake.

But nobody did get hurt. He chased them down and brought them in.

Would've saved a lot of time, trouble and gas if he'd just shot them, though. His first instict was the better one, IMO.

And if you wanna play the "What if?" game...

What if he'd let them go and the next time they tried to shoot a dog they shot a kid instead?

 

[Cool-Beans]

What Latrell was willing to do has absolutely nothing to do with this.

It's the prosecutor's decisoon, the elected prosecutor. Not charging Latrell is a no brianer politically.

He is a hero, no doubt. But a hero who made a horrible decision in the instant case. Police officers have to consider the possible results of their actions. Chasing these guys in an unmarked car would not have happened, nor should it have happened.

It's called risk management.

It's called letting the bad guys go because you're too damn scared of what might happen if you go after them. Now all the bad guys get to do what they want and they know they won't be chased. The hell with that.

Go get the bad guys.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

Let's not forget, there were two vehicles travelling at this high rate of speed. The one chasing, and the one being chased. If it wasn't for the chase car, the bad guys wouldn't be fleeing at such dangerous speeds.

If they hadn't been out killing dogs, there would have been no reason to chase them. If he hadn't chased them, and caught them, they would have killed more dogs. I suspect dog killing isn't their only crime either, it's just the crime du jour.

Seriously, I think blood is about to shoot out of my eyes by this ridiculous argument. It's just an excuse to bash a hero of a war you do not like. Deny it all you want, I can see right through it.

I actually know someone who was an innocent bystander and killed by criminals in a high speed chase. She was only 18. Nobody, and I mean nobody, blamed the police for her death. They blamed the bloody CRIMINALS who committed a crime then ran from the cops at a high speed. They were the problem, not the police who were trying to stop them from doing more harm. Just like the dog killers were the problem, not the brave man who stopped them.

Marcus Lutrell is a hero. He helped catch four very dangerous, murderous criminals. I wish there were more out there like him.

 

[wvdisluv2]

What if someone got hurt? Then I'd be even more angry with the vicious punks who shot the dog and ran like little girls.

While I wouldn't justify a car chase over some pot or a speeding ticket, I do justify this. You can't start letting the bad guys go because we can't chase them, for Pete's sake.

But nobody did get hurt. He chased them down and brought them in.

Would've saved a lot of time, trouble and gas if he'd just shot them, though. His first instict was the better one, IMO.

And if you wanna play the "What if?" game...

What if he'd let them go and the next time they tried to shoot a dog they shot a kid instead?

 

[TCPluto]

It's called letting the bad guys go because you're too damn scared of what might happen if you go after them. Now all the bad guys get to do what they want and they know they won't be chased. The hell with that.

Go get the bad guys.

You might want to have a conversation with every police officer, police chief,and every lawyer in risk management. You'll find out that none of them stand with you.

There is nothing about this case that justifies the chase.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

What if someone got hurt? Then I'd be even more angry with the vicious punks who shot the dog and ran like little girls.

While I wouldn't justify a car chase over some pot or a speeding ticket, I do justify this. You can't start letting the bad guys go because we can't chase them, for Pete's sake.

But nobody did get hurt. He chased them down and brought them in.

Would've saved a lot of time, trouble and gas if he'd just shot them, though. His first instict was the better one, IMO.

And if you wanna play the "What if?" game...

What if he'd let them go and the next time they tried to shoot a dog they shot a kid instead?

Therein lies my problem with this. Had he shot them on his own property, when he had the chance, then I wouldn't have a problem with this -- what happened between him and them should have stayed between him and them. However, he had the chance and did nothing, other than put others in harms way. And I'm sorry, but if someone hit my family member, I don't care why they were driving like that, or who they were, I'd be furious at them all and want them all to pay. My families' lives are worth more than any dog's life, including my own dog.