Natalie Holloway's Killer!

[jldunbar]

And the ONE person that you wanted killed, just happened to be the one seen with Van Der Sloot?




Actually, if you watch Criminal Minds, (yes, this is a shameless plug for the show, ) people would know what I said earlier IS the case. He IS following a clear FBI profile often used on Criminal Minds: His father died in Feb, without the control & structure his father provided, Joran, escalated. He bragged on TWO videos that he killed Natalee. One video was little more than a month after his father died.

Since most murderers revisit the scene of their crimes, or like to relive it, ON the anniversary of Natalee's death, he just happens to be with another young woman. He was probably bragging to her (like in the videos,) how he did it. She freaked. A struggle ensued, and having killed once already, murder gets easier EACH subsequent time. Second dead body found. He didn't even bother to hide this one or cover up his tracks. He didn't even make up any excuses this time. (No daddy to help him out of this one.) He quickly "left" the country, under unusual means. That is NOT a coincidence.

This latest from a CNN.com article ALSO fits in the profile of reliving and/or repeating the same procedure of a crime:

"Ricardo Flores said that police found his daughter's car about 50 blocks from the hotel, and that inside, they found pills like those used in date rape cases.

Similar to the Holloway case, van der Sloot and Flores allegedly met at a night spot, in this case, a casino. Ricardo Flores said he did not believe that his daughter knew the Dutch citizen from before.

Both of them speak English, and at the casino they struck up conversation, he said."​

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/06/02/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T3

Love this show also................Would just like to see all the facts before judgement is passed. Have never been a victim, maybe my thoughts would be different if this was so.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Don't tell me. We, the normal working taxpayers, could kill him ourselves believe me.

But in my country killers,molesters and all the rif raf is protected by the law.
Two months ago a cop kidnapped his neighbor girl. He went to her home. She knew him because she walked his dog. She went with him. He raped her,strangled her and buried her in his back yard. ( the parents could see the place from there window).
Finely he got caught and now he is in jail and for a minor man slaughter. He still get his police wages and he is not fired. He has all rights on his side and he will be a free man in a few years.

BTW child rapers and killers get free weekends . Time out of jail to socialize.

The cop case is mind blowing! The poor girl. Was he convicted and is still getting pay (and not fired)? How does that happen? In the states, they might suspend a cop without pay (or with pay depending on circumstances I guess) until a verdict is reached. That might vary from state to state. But I'm sure if a cop was convicted he/she would be fired and no pay.

I've never heard of inmates getting free weekends. Work release for lesser crimes, but not free weekends (especially for the most vile of crimes)! Why is that? Is it a veiled attempt at saving money? Strange!

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I was surprised to hear of J.V.S. latest crime. Not because I don't think he is capable or that he did it, but because I hadn't read anything of him for a long while. I agree with pp he does fit the profile. He has proven to be his own undoing. His father was the only one that kept him in line. Now he seems to be unraveling.

 

[Imzadi]

Love this show also................Would just like to see all the facts before judgement is passed. Have never been a victim, maybe my thoughts would be different if this was so.

You might also think differently if you watch one of the undercover videos where he is bragging about killing Natalee. I'm sure Nancy Grace will show it as nauseum.

BTW, when I said, "He IS following a clear FBI profile," I want to be clear, as far as I know, the FBI have not released any public profile on Joran. That was just my profile, from my "informed" TV watching from CM too many times.

 

[MiniGirl]

I am always amazed at his eyes. In every photo I've seen of him, his eyes just seem, well...., dead. Like there is no life behind them. Very creepy.

 

[johnsontrio]

I am always amazed at his eyes. In every photo I've seen of him, his eyes just seem, well...., dead. Like there is no life behind them. Very creepy.

That's because he has no soul.

 

[Grumpy's Gal]

eyes of a serial killer?

 

[Imzadi]

He wasn't an (alleged) serial killer until 4 days ago.

 

[BCDisneyFanatic]

The good news is that they are reporting that he was spotted in Arica today. Arica is in a controlled region...he can't even get to the rest of Chile without passing through security checkpoints (and there's only two highways through the region). If the sighting was real, his odds of managing a clean getaway have been drastically reduced.

 

[Disneyadore]

It's over a thousand miles from the Peruvian-Chilean border (Arica) and the Dutch Embassy (Santiago). He would stand out like a sore thumb in the north of Chile (not too many gringos up there). The Chilean police are VERY good, very professional, and very connected. I have a lot of hope that he will be caught long before he gets close to any embassies.

Your word in Gods ear but he is like a snake. Glitchy and mean. Months ago was also on the news for importing women from Thailand into Europe but before they could question him he was gone. Thailand could not find him. Also you can find him publicly on the Internet for Poker tournaments.
O and BTW if you catch him send him to his creator. This person will only make more victims and destroy many many lives.
He was never out of publicity in The Netherlands. People haunted him because he is one of the most hated persons in the country.
Every few weeks you could see pictures of him in the Eastern part of the world. Thailand,Malaysia and other countries were he lived like a king.

 

[Disneyadore]

I've never heard of inmates getting free weekends. Work release for lesser crimes, but not free weekends (especially for the most vile of crimes)! Why is that? Is it a veiled attempt at saving money? Strange!

Because criminals are real in fact people that are misunderstood by society and need to relax at home. Thanks to the left government.
If a convict murder gets a child when he is in prison or one of his relatives gets sick he just gets a few months of vacation from jail.
Guess who's never coming back.
I think we are the only country in the world that has thousands of convicted crooks running around free,committing other crimes, but we rent out the space in jail to other countries.
Have you ever heard of a government that gives public money to a group that tries to start a political party that favors for pedophilia and sex with children? We do. Just look it up and Google Stichting Martijn.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Disneyadore, I can't imagine. I will look it up. I want to know more.

 

[BCDisneyFanatic]

Your word in Gods ear but he is like a snake. Glitchy and mean. Months ago was also on the news for importing women from Thailand into Europe but before they could question him he was gone. Thailand could not find him. Also you can find him publicly on the Internet for Poker tournaments.

O and BTW if you catch him send him to his creator.

I've been to Thailand...let me tell you, there is no comparison. The bureaucracy in Chile is phenomenal. Annoying most of the time, but certainly useful in times like this. You can't do ANYTHING without documents. Yes, I know a rich man can spend a lot of money bribing his way out of a bad situation, but he's in a pretty isolated spot where he's going to stand out like a sore thumb both in appearance and whenever he opens his mouth.

As for your second part, neither Chile nor Peru have the death penalty for murder. At least officially. I wouldn't put his chances in a Peruvian jail very high, though.

 

[Tuffcookie]

I wonder if he is in contact with his mother? I'm sure the authorities are keeping tabs on his and her cell phones.

TC

 

[Rora]

I feel in my heart that his man is responsible for the death of Natalie and this Peruvian girl. I truly hope justice is served. This man deserves the death penalty.

 

[BCDisneyFanatic]

In case anyone is wondering, this is what the main Chilean newspaper is saying in today's addition (translated):

The Dutchman came to Chile using his passport at 15:00 on Monday June 31, before there was an international arrest warrant requested by Peru. Chacalluta crossed over in a taxi driven by John William Aparcana and accompanied by Carlos Uribe Petrila, two Peruvians, according to the correspondent of "El Mercurio" in Arica.

The Europeans hired the vehicle in the Peruvian city of Nazca, 400 km north of Arica. The car returned to Peru three hours after coming to Chile, only with the two Peruvians.

Until last night, the Dutchman had not legally left Chile, nor had he boarded a bus heading south. It was unclear whether he has made any illegal crossings. Last night, police in Arica received a search order for the subject.

http://diario.elmercurio.cl/2010/06...cias/d98f97d3-def6-4258-9e50-6c0a98ecbad6.htm

 

[hereyago]

Can you imagine if he did kill the young Peruvian girl, 5 years to the day of Natalie disappearing? As weird as it sounds, he would most likely be the 1st serial killer that his identity is all ready known. Usually it takes many victims and sometimes the serial killer is never found.


But on a side note, what was this girl thinking? did she not hear about him?

 

[BCDisneyFanatic]

But on a side note, what was this girl thinking? did she not hear about him?

Do you really think the average 21 year old Peruvian girl would know about and remember the name of a Dutchman who killed an American in Aruba five years ago? The rest of the world really didn't get caught up in the whole Natalie Holloway story the way the US did...

 

[hereyago]

Do you really think the average 21 year old Peruvian girl would know about and remember the name of a Dutchman who killed an American in Aruba five years ago? The rest of the world really didn't get caught up in the whole Natalie Holloway story the way the US did...

Even if she never heard of him, you are going to go to a hotel room with a stranger, seriously? I just don't trust people like that.

And since he loves the attention that the Natalie story gave him, I am quite sure he wanted everyone to know he is Joran Van der sloot. Just like Drew Peterson here in the States who may have killed 2 of his wives, but loves for everyone to know who he is, the infamy of it all. And the stupid women who just want to date Drew Peterson.

 

[Jynohn]

I've always believed that he was involved in Natalee's disappearance, but thought that maybe he had drugged her and she died accidentally. With this latest news, it now appears that both women's deaths were deliberate and premeditated. If that's the case, it's only a matter of time before he kills again.

 

[BCDisneyFanatic]

Even if she never heard of him, you are going to go to a hotel room with a stranger, seriously? I just don't trust people like that.

And since he loves the attention that the Natalie story gave him, I am quite sure he wanted everyone to know he is Joran Van der sloot. Just like Drew Peterson here in the States who may have killed 2 of his wives, but loves for everyone to know who he is, the infamy of it all. And the stupid women who just want to date Drew Peterson.

I have to admit I was wrong. Stephany Flores' cousin is saying that they both knew who Van der Sloot was from a documentary on the Holloway case they watched a month ago. If that is true, I hope it serves as a wake-up call to all the deluded women out there who willingly pursue these crazy monsters. Tragic.: