My no work, money saving vegetable garden.

If I can add some additional tips - there is no need to stack 2x4s - simply buy 2x10s instead. If you have a nail gun, corner nail them, and then also nail 2 short lengths of 2x4 across the bottom, equally spaced, to prevent deforming from transport or soil fill (DH builds these in his workshop and moves them to our garden). Don't use pressure treated wood - it contains chemicals!

For costing, DH just built me 12 boxes this weekend, 3x13 feet each, as I described above, for $250, wood purchased at Home Depot and transported by DH. I think he could have done it a little cheaper if he had used not-quite-perfect wood, but he refused!

Good luck to all!

Jane
 
Thank you so much for the post!! We are trying this for the first time ever this summer and we are excited. My inlaws even gave dh the wood as a christmas present (not purchased yet.. just a certificate for when the season starts). We are ready to get started soon:goodvibes
 
We are in an apartment with a screened in shaded patio. Could we grow anything there?
 
Thank you so much for the post!! We are trying this for the first time ever this summer and we are excited. My inlaws even gave dh the wood as a christmas present (not purchased yet.. just a certificate for when the season starts). We are ready to get started soon:goodvibes

now that is a great present
 

I just want to second the PP who said, DON'T USE PRESSURE TREATED WOOD!!! The chemicals that are used to treat it are things like ARSENIC! Use the cheapest untreated wood you can get. Yes, it will rot over a number of years, but that is life. You could use the newer composite wood/plastic materials, but they are costly. Even old pallets can be taken apart and used.

Don't forget about other things you can do that are cheap/free.... like composting, starting your own seedlings (you need patience and a good sunny window or two for this, but it is way cheaper than buying seedlings). If you reuse your soil year after year, don't forget it will get depleted and need compost/fertilizer (organic if you prefer) to make it continue to produce. Newspaper can be used as mulch to keep down the weeds. Use the black and white, not colored sections. Lay them down and wet them to keep them in place. Cover them with straw or grass clippings (only when your lawn is chemical free!!) They will keep down the weeds, keep the soil from drying out too quickly, and decompose over time.

In the fall you can chop up all of your leaves with your lawn mower or string trimmer and put them on the garden. Leave them until spring and then rototill them in (or dig them in by hand if you garden is small).

One of the easiest and most rewarding crops we have grown in the past is asparagus. It is so expensive in the grocery store, but so easy to grow at home and it is a perennial!! No need to buy new seedlings every year. So keep a section of your garden aside for this! (You buy roots for this, so too late for this year, but get it started for next year!) Another easy one is rhubarb. It it also a perennial and gets bigger every year. Grows without any assistance and the fruit is great in pies, jams, buckles, crisps, etc.

Good luck to all on their gardening adventures.......................P
 
I build raised bed gardens. If you have access to building supplies you can do this cheaper. I order 18 2x4's from the building supply store, and I ask if 6 of them can be cut in half. They usually don't charge me to cut them, and since I don't demand a certain delivery time, they don't charge me for delivery. I could wait a few days for delivery, however. I get 8' lengths, but the size isn't really important. I also order about a pound or pound and a half of nails. I make a 4'x8' box. It slaps together in about 2 hours with me alone working on it. If I had help it would take a lot less time. It will be aproximately 20" high. I put what ever in the bottom. Sometimes I put lawn rakings and broken branches in the bottom. The last one I built I put blocks of wood in that I knew DH would never get around to chopping. You could put in rocks or what have you. The reason I do this is because vegetables don't usually grow any deeper than 8"to 10" deep. I top it up with dirt. Sometimes I beg dirt from the neighbors, or I take some from my yard. You may have to but a few cubic yards of dirt from a landscaping place, but I havn't needed to do that yet. The first one I built, I put it 2' from the wall so I could reach over it to weed and harvest, but I have since found that isn't necessary for me. I can stretch over the 4' to reach my veggies, but if you are arthritic, you may want to have it built so it is accessable from both sides.

For planting, I just simply broadcast my seeds, and cover with dirt. I don't need to make rows, because I will never rotatill this garden. I use practically every inch of space. These gardens don't get weeds, because the weeds don't grow up from the ground through 14" of rock, wood, or even dirt. Any weeds I get are from airborn seeds. Since they haven't established a strong root system when I discover them they just take a second to pull. I doubt if I spend a total of 30 minutes combined all year weeding the garden. As I walk by, I might notice a weed starting to grow so I pull it. I don't even have to bend over to do it. Sometimes I just sit on the edge and search through the veggies for weeds, but as I say, there are very very few weeds. I have heard these type of gardens require a lot of water, but that has not been the case with me. I built them up against the back of the garage to get the heat from the bricks in the evenings, and the water runs off the roof when in rains and waters the garden. Perhaps 2 or 3 times a season I will water with the hose when I wash the car, but that is about it. You will have to take into consideration your own weather and gardening conditions.

The yield is phenomanal. I don't have to worry about animals getting into it since it is right by the house. Space isn't wasted on rows. Over the years I have had success with potatoes, green beans, yellow beans, radishes, carrots, beets, turnips, and spinach. I have three gardens and hope to build another one this spring. I started this about 10 years ago, and the garden boxes have held up well. Last summer they kept the wolf away from the door when money was tight, and I suppose they will do the same this year.

Would you happen to have pics of these? I'm trying to talk my dh into doing one or two, but he does better with building things if there are pics or diagrams or something visual. :)
 
For those who need more info the pioneerwoman.com has directions with pictures on her home and garden tab for something very similar. She also has lots of great recipes. It's a great site. Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread.
Happy gardening, Mary
 
My dad had raised beds as well. His are a little different than the OP and might be easier for some of you. He uses 2"X12". He buys 2 12' long sections cuts off 4' off the end of each, and there he has his 2 8' sides and 2 4' ends. If you have gophers or moles in your area, you'll also want 1" wire to put on the bottom of the bed before you make your frame, so the frame sits on top of it. When I was asking my dad about this, he said he actually bought the roll of wire and it was in the 4'X8" size, so it fit the frame perfectly. This is so the gophers and moles don't get your carrots, beets, potatoes, or whatever. Then just fill with whatever dirt you want to use. My dad did have good soil delivered, knowing he would be using these beds year after year. He's on his third year with them.

These are all good ideas. I use 2x4 because they are cheaper, and this is of course the budget board. However, the larger lumber pieces would be less labour intensive. We have moles here, and shrews too, but they have never been in my gardens. Perhaps it's because they are so far up from the ground. I've never used wire to line the bottom. Really, I suppose we could make these as elaborate as we choose, but for economy sake, I just make a 2'x4'x8' box in the back yard up against the brick wall of the garage.:flower3:
 
If I can add some additional tips - there is no need to stack 2x4s - simply buy 2x10s instead. If you have a nail gun, corner nail them, and then also nail 2 short lengths of 2x4 across the bottom, equally spaced, to prevent deforming from transport or soil fill (DH builds these in his workshop and moves them to our garden). Don't use pressure treated wood - it contains chemicals!

For costing, DH just built me 12 boxes this weekend, 3x13 feet each, as I described above, for $250, wood purchased at Home Depot and transported by DH. I think he could have done it a little cheaper if he had used not-quite-perfect wood, but he refused!

Good luck to all!

Jane

If you build from the ground up you would not need to move or transport it. That would save buying extra 2x4s. I'm not a fine finisher, but I can slap these together in an afternoon, and they last for years.
 
Okay, I need details. How do you put the frame together? The square foot gardening website only makes the frame 4 inches high, and uses wood screws to attach the 4 corners. Since yours is 20" high, how do you stack the boards on top of each other and connect them? Are you making it 4 boards high? I'd like to do this this week, any advise you have would be great.

I'm afraid I misled some of you. I just went outside to check, and the first garden I built I had 2x4s for the corner supports to nail the sides and ends to. That being said, if you need to order the lumber to build this, you may want to order another 2x4 cut into 4 equal lengths. The reason I suggest this is they can zip it through a saw quicker than i can find my saw. Like I said, this garden is no work (for me, anyway):goodvibes
 
If you build from the ground up you would not need to move or transport it. That would save buying extra 2x4s. I'm not a fine finisher, but I can slap these together in an afternoon, and they last for years.

True, but then how would DH justify his workshop??!!:rolleyes1
 
Your choices are quite limited. Do you get any sun at all? Maybe morning sunshine?

Yes actually we get sun at the bottom of the patio where the container would be. It's just that there's a roof so at times of the day when the sun is over the roof it doesn't get sun. Probably several hours of sun - just not direct
 
I just want to second the PP who said, DON'T USE PRESSURE TREATED WOOD!!! The chemicals that are used to treat it are things like ARSENIC! Use the cheapest untreated wood you can get. Yes, it will rot over a number of years, but that is life. You could use the newer composite wood/plastic materials, but they are costly. Even old pallets can be taken apart and used.

Don't forget about other things you can do that are cheap/free.... like composting, starting your own seedlings (you need patience and a good sunny window or two for this, but it is way cheaper than buying seedlings). If you reuse your soil year after year, don't forget it will get depleted and need compost/fertilizer (organic if you prefer) to make it continue to produce. Newspaper can be used as mulch to keep down the weeds. Use the black and white, not colored sections. Lay them down and wet them to keep them in place. Cover them with straw or grass clippings (only when your lawn is chemical free!!) They will keep down the weeds, keep the soil from drying out too quickly, and decompose over time.

In the fall you can chop up all of your leaves with your lawn mower or string trimmer and put them on the garden. Leave them until spring and then rototill them in (or dig them in by hand if you garden is small).

One of the easiest and most rewarding crops we have grown in the past is asparagus. It is so expensive in the grocery store, but so easy to grow at home and it is a perennial!! No need to buy new seedlings every year. So keep a section of your garden aside for this! (You buy roots for this, so too late for this year, but get it started for next year!) Another easy one is rhubarb. It it also a perennial and gets bigger every year. Grows without any assistance and the fruit is great in pies, jams, buckles, crisps, etc.

Good luck to all on their gardening adventures.......................P

Be careful with old pallets. Many are chemical treated with fire retardants -- again chemicals!
 
I just heard on the radio, and I believe they were quoting CNN, that people can save up to $500.00 a year by having a veggie garden. They now call them recession gardens.
 
If you have deer they will still eat from your raised bed garden. My parents put tomato plants right outside their back door an the deer came an ate every tomato right off the vine right outside the back door. The joke was when the tomatos was gone they was gonna knock on door an ask for more.

Also I saw a report on the news last year about ppl in the suburbs in subdivisions even turning their back yards into gardens then taking the produce to farmers market an selling it. NICE idea if you plant more than you can use.

Raised bed gardening a GREAT IDEA don't get me wrong just remember to rotate crops every year because some crops robs the soil of certain nutrients an others puts back. I am no expert at this I do know when we planted garden at home as a kid (HUGE GARDEN) it was planted the opposite way every year. Dad always said it was to keep the plants from robbing to many nutrients from the soil. If you rob the nutrients that plant needs it will no longer grow.

Most home grown canned goods will keep longer than a year. We did not plant the same time consuming crops every year. Cumcumbers every other year we grew them for pickles an they was very time consuming. Canning Green beans can be time consuming so usually didn't plant those to can the same year as the cumcumbers.
 
I pickle my green beans (dilly beans). The recipe comes from the Ball Canning booklet. I leave out the cayenne pepper as I like them to just taste like dill pickles. They are super, super easy. Just wash the beans, pack the dill, garlic and beans in jars and cover them with the vinegar mixture. Process per the directions on the recipe. They are so delish!
 
Great thread! I've never done a garden, but I've been thinking about it for 3 years now, so maybe this will be the push I need to get started!
 















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