My kids are not allowed to date until college

I think it is unreasonable and downright silly. :confused3

I mean to "forbid" makes no sense. Instead how about teaching responsibility and teaching consequences? If they do not "learn" while they are young, makes those learning curve mistakes that much harder later on..
And I think................Where there is a will there is a way.......and believe me, they find ways :rotfl:..................
 
A fellow mom that I know from school told me over the weekend that she is not allowing her children to date until they are in college. She stated that this is how she was raised and she is raising her two kids the same way. She also said she would actually prefer they be over 21 when they start dating. Her main reason is that she wants them to focus on their studies and not be distracted by all the drama involved in dating. Her DH is totally on board with raising the children in this manner.

When I brought up what she planned to do when her kids wanted to go to prom, she insisted that they would only go with a large group and someone who was a friend.

I thought this might be a cultural issue, but my DH (who is of the same culture) assured me it was not. My DH was also raised in a strict family (10 p.m. curfew during senior year of high school), but his parents did allow him and his siblings to date.

I honestly have never personally known a family that had this expectation.

My question for all of you is:

Do you know anyone who wasn't allowed to date during high school?

Did that individual actually follow the parents' rule of no dating?

Just curious.

How old are her kids?

If her children are easy-going and compliant, they may follow her stringent rules. However, if they are independent, stubborn and not really interested in pleasing mom, then her rules are going to be met with sneaking around and major rebellion.
 
I teach high school, so I can tell you that your friend is not being realistic. They are GOING to be dating behind her back, make no mistake about it. I think I would rather be informed about who my child is spending time with rather than making blanket prohibitions and causing them to sneak around, becuase they WILL sneak around to date.
 
I wasn't allowed to date in highschool either. And, of course I followed their rules, as I lived in their house, but also because I was very compliant, mature and responsible, as mentioned above.

I can't stand the whole idea that if you forbid people, they will go crazy. Sorry, I don't buy it. It has to do with one's personality. I wasn't allowed to date, smoke, drink or take drugs, and guess what? I didn't date until I was 21, and still have never had a drink, smoke or drugs. It was my choice not to do those things, and I am glad I did not.

Many of my highschool students were allowed to date at very young ages, and they were all pregnant at very young ages, so it all depends upon the person, their upbringing, and their experiences as to how they are going to handle adult activities.

Honestly, I think most of society lets kids grow up way too fast. Young teens under 16, really don't need to be dating, but I'm pretty much in the minority on that one...

If this works for the OP's friend and their children, then it's not for any of us to pass judgment. Just because those kids can't date, it doesn't mean they are going to sneak around at all. I never did...

Tiger
 

I've known 2 people who weren't allowed to date in HS. The one had to sneak by age 18 and did not go wild but I thought she might.
The other is still young and I'll wait to see...she has her first BF at 19. DD thinks she'll end up pregnant.

DD has a BF and can date (17) but they rarely go out much. I try to stay out of it but when I was that age, I saw my BF every Friday, Sat. and Sun. It is just very different...

I like the idea of kids dating while at home myself. There's so many ups and downs and some drama thrown in to dating--I just think it is a good idea to date while at home so your parents might be able to help you through some of it.

My niece didn't date until college. Her choice, but she was painfully shy and I do not think anyone asked. She did go to SR prom and had a good time. She went off to college and we thought she might go wild but did not. She did, however, get a BF right away within 2 weeks.
 
I wasn't allowed to date in highschool either. And, of course I followed their rules, as I lived in their house, but also because I was very compliant, mature and responsible, as mentioned above.

I can't stand the whole idea that if you forbid people, they will go crazy. Sorry, I don't buy it. It has to do with one's personality. I wasn't allowed to date, smoke, drink or take drugs, and guess what? I didn't date until I was 21, and still have never had a drink, smoke or drugs. It was my choice not to do those things, and I am glad I did not.

Many of my highschool students were allowed to date at very young ages, and they were all pregnant at very young ages, so it all depends upon the person, their upbringing, and their experiences as to how they are going to handle adult activities.

Honestly, I think most of society lets kids grow up way too fast. Young teens under 16, really don't need to be dating, but I'm pretty much in the minority on that one...

If this works for the OP's friend and their children, then it's not for any of us to pass judgment. Just because those kids can't date, it doesn't mean they are going to sneak around at all. I never did...

Tiger

I agree with you. But you are on the DIS. You are going to read page after page about how kids who are brought up decent and family orientated end up going bad.
 
My best friend in college was not allowed to date until she was done with her 4 yr. degree. Her parents were from Italy and she and her sisters did not date even though they did not live at home during college. I guess it was just out of respect. The dad wanted them to focus on education which he did not have. And they went to Catholic girls school through 12th grade. My friend was shy, I don't think she would have dated much anyway.
 
I agree with you. But you are on the DIS. You are going to read page after page about how kids who are brought up decent and family orientated end up going bad.
And some of those stories will be true. But there'll also be true stories about kids who were brought up in similar homes, who turned out to be very much like their parents.

The problem is one-dimensional thinking. You can't say, "If you do this, your child will turn out like that." People are much, much more complicated than that. You have to consider ALL the influences that affect the child, ALL the choices that the parents make for that child, and ALL the child's personal genetics and quirks. ALL these things work together to make the child who he turns out to be.
 
And some of those stories will be true. But there'll also be true stories about kids who were brought up in similar homes, who turned out to be very much like their parents.

The problem is one-dimensional thinking. You can't say, "If you do this, your child will turn out like that." People are much, much more complicated than that. You have to consider ALL the influences that affect the child, ALL the choices that the parents make for that child, and ALL the child's personal genetics and quirks. ALL these things work together to make the child who he turns out to be.

:thumbsup2

Tiger
 
The only parents I know who are like this are from other countries. Their kids were born here but were/are expected to not date until they FINISH college. So far, so good. Not a pregnancy among them. One finished college last year, met a guy, dated and is getting married this summer.

I'm sure it's hard for them to only go on group outings, since they have normal feelings like any teenager, and who knows what they do behind their parents backs, like any teenager. But my point is so far none of them went wacky freaky wild when they "came of age".

I don't particularly believe in this way, but I do believe it can teach young people self control and to focus on creating a good foundation for themselves before they get into relationships with the opposite sex.
 
I used to tell people that I wasn't allowed to date when I was in HS -- does that count? For reasons that I won't get into, I ended up going to a sub-par high school way out in the sticks near a very insular little town where just about everyone was related to one another in some way, though I wasn't. I hadn't grown up there; I had been a military brat.

To say that I did not fit in was an understatement, and I got harassed a lot. To get people off my back and short-circuit rumors that were going around, I made it known that my very strict mother did not allow me to date, which wasn't actually true. The fiction made life easier, though.
Mom knew that I'd done it (I didn't want her letting the cat out of the bag, after all) but she didn't mind letting me blame her.

I left town the morning after my HS graduation, and I dated happily in college (where the undergraduate student body alone was twice the population of the town that my HS was located in.)

PS: I also told people that I wasn't allowed to make social calls on the phone, but that part WAS true. We had a party line, and you were supposed to try to keep the line clear in case of emergencies. At least I didn't have to deal with phone harassment.
 
I wasn't allowed to date in highschool either. And, of course I followed their rules, as I lived in their house, but also because I was very compliant, mature and responsible, as mentioned above.

I can't stand the whole idea that if you forbid people, they will go crazy. Sorry, I don't buy it. It has to do with one's personality. I wasn't allowed to date, smoke, drink or take drugs, and guess what? I didn't date until I was 21, and still have never had a drink, smoke or drugs. It was my choice not to do those things, and I am glad I did not.

Many of my highschool students were allowed to date at very young ages, and they were all pregnant at very young ages, so it all depends upon the person, their upbringing, and their experiences as to how they are going to handle adult activities.

Honestly, I think most of society lets kids grow up way too fast. Young teens under 16, really don't need to be dating, but I'm pretty much in the minority on that one...

If this works for the OP's friend and their children, then it's not for any of us to pass judgment. Just because those kids can't date, it doesn't mean they are going to sneak around at all. I never did...

Tiger

And some of those stories will be true. But there'll also be true stories about kids who were brought up in similar homes, who turned out to be very much like their parents.

The problem is one-dimensional thinking. You can't say, "If you do this, your child will turn out like that." People are much, much more complicated than that. You have to consider ALL the influences that affect the child, ALL the choices that the parents make for that child, and ALL the child's personal genetics and quirks. ALL these things work together to make the child who he turns out to be.

I agree with both of these posts - and yes, I have known parents who placed these rules on their children.. As MrsPete has pointed out, some turned out fine, some didn't, and one in particular has issues 40+ years later with being very timid; afraid of her own shadow; has difficulties standing up for herself; etc. - but even though she married only the second man she ever dated, she's been happy with her choice - even after all these years..:goodvibes

I think individual personalities play a huge part in how something like this will impact the teen/young adult involved and sweeping generalizations really don't apply..
 
How old are this mom's kids? Its really easy to have a five year old and make all the, "When my kid is ____ age, they're not going to have or do ____" rules.

I grew up in the bible belt, and most of the kids that weren't allowed to date were the children of really religious parents. What happened with those kids after high school was that they got married at 18, moved in with their new spouse and got pregnant and/or divorced very very quickly.

There's a lot to be said for dating experience, in my opinion.
 
What if the the daughter turns out to be gay? Then what? She can't have any friends at all? :confused3

Don't get me wrong I understand education is important. But so is socialization. Because in my experience, it's usually not what you can do - but who you know.
 
The only kids I know who have parents like this are Asian. It's true, I had a best friend in high school who was Asian and she and her cousins were not allowed to date. Granted, they did it anyway. My friend got caught and was forbidden from seeing him, and she did break up with him. However, that didn't stop her from getting another boyfriend and just being sneakier about it.

Even in college, the girl got a new boyfriend and her parents flipped out. This time, he was Asian as well, and the mom seemed to be convinced that her daughter was dating this Thai boy because she liked Thai food. Makes no sense to me, but they really are that strict. When the parents met me, they asked my rank in high school. The girl was never even allowed to spend the night at my house because my father is Hispanic (but then again, so is my mom.)

Sometimes I wish her mother knew just what her perfect angel is up to while she's away at college... Of course, that's not just because the parents are strict. As a PP stated, it depends on many more factors. The truth is, I don't know a college student who hasn't done something their parents would flip out over at one point, whether it be underage drinking, sexual activity, or what-have-you.

On the other hand, I also knew someone who was allowed to date but not out of his race. The girl HAD to be Asian.
 
My college roommate was not allowed to date in HS. We didn't even make it a year in our apartment, I had to move out. She turned into a superhoochie.

That sounds about right... same goes as for any kids with strict limitations, especially with alcohol. I knew a girl that wasn't allowed to date in high school, and she actually made it a point to go 30 for 30... with 30 different guys.

Not allowed to date until college? That is just plain ridiculous. :rotfl:
 
I did know one girl in high school who was not allowed to date. Her father was from India and he had that rule. She was no wild--but she did have a boyfriend that her father did not know about.

Personally, if my kids choose to date as teens (DD14 has yet to take any interest any dating) I think that would be a good thing. Dating and relationships are hard to navigate and I think it would be better if they get to learn how to handle some of that while I am here to help guide them through the roller coaster of emotions at least the first few times.
 
The only parents I know who are like this are from other countries. Their kids were born here but were/are expected to not date until they FINISH college. So far, so good. Not a pregnancy among them. One finished college last year, met a guy, dated and is getting married this summer.

I'm sure it's hard for them to only go on group outings, since they have normal feelings like any teenager, and who knows what they do behind their parents backs, like any teenager. But my point is so far none of them went wacky freaky wild when they "came of age".

I don't particularly believe in this way, but I do believe it can teach young people self control and to focus on creating a good foundation for themselves before they get into relationships with the opposite sex.

This is exactly how I was raised, and am raising my children. Education is very important, and so is socialization, but there are other types of socializations besides dating. We are a busy family, with lots of events and activities going on, and even though my kids are young, my almost 8 year old does ask once in awhile, when she will be allowed to date, how do you date, etc? We talk about it being an event that happens differently for each person - some peolpe are more mature and responsible than others, but no one in our home needs to be dating at 14 or even 15 years old.

Dating is very problematic for teens, period. So, you let 14 year olds do it, and you are asking for trouble. I also don't get the fascination with allowing kids to date at very young ages either - why do they need that type of relationship in their lives at that young of an age?

Waiting until 21 is an older age, and I should clarify, that my parents didn't say I had to wait until 21 - it just worked out that way. They told us no dating under 16, and after that, it was up for discussion. I was a shy girl, and very busy with school, church, etc. I was also 1 - 1.5 years younger than my classmates due to starting school early and being skipped, so no need for me to be doing that. I was 13 in grade 9, and all of the boys were older than me.

I think there is nothing wrong with limits on kids, as it does teach self-control, but it has to be an ongoing process, like it was for me, and how it is in my house, and then it will have more of a chance of positive results. My sister was a rebel, but she knew how important it was to my parents that we not date at young ages, nor be in cars at that age (they didn't really let us go out with friends at night, so that was easy), and she proved herself to be mature and responsible, and she was allowed to date my brother in law at age 17.5 years old, and he's 6 years older than her. He worked for my parents, so we knew him, and all was very good in that situation.

I think parents need to be involved, and I see many parents not involved these days, so kids are dating at younger ages, and parents don't even know who they are dating, whereas with us, there was an age limit, and then there was discussion once that age limit of 16 was reached, about what the next steps were going to be. We also always knew what expectations our parents had of us. Sex and pregnancy was not an issue - my parents never forbid us from it at all, and in fact, they educated us about it very well. The big thing for my parents was drinking/drugs, as well as a driving. Dating was just something that could be problematic with both of those areas, as well as cause drama that we didn't need at that time of our lives.

Not all kids go crazy and freak out...they may do so because they aren't taught or respected enough through the whole process of growing up.

Tiger
 
I don't think she would have dated much anyway.

I think a lot of kids who are raised in an ultra conservative and sheltered environment are socially and/or romantically inept because they are years behind the kids who learned normal social behavior on a more typical schedule.
 
The only kids I know who have parents like this are Asian. It's true, I had a best friend in high school who was Asian and she and her cousins were not allowed to date. Granted, they did it anyway. My friend got caught and was forbidden from seeing him, and she did break up with him. However, that didn't stop her from getting another boyfriend and just being sneakier about it.

Even in college, the girl got a new boyfriend and her parents flipped out. This time, he was Asian as well, and the mom seemed to be convinced that her daughter was dating this Thai boy because she liked Thai food. Makes no sense to me, but they really are that strict. When the parents met me, they asked my rank in high school. The girl was never even allowed to spend the night at my house because my father is Hispanic (but then again, so is my mom.)

Sometimes I wish her mother knew just what her perfect angel is up to while she's away at college... Of course, that's not just because the parents are strict. As a PP stated, it depends on many more factors. The truth is, I don't know a college student who hasn't done something their parents would flip out over at one point, whether it be underage drinking, sexual activity, or what-have-you.

On the other hand, I also knew someone who was allowed to date but not out of his race. The girl HAD to be Asian.

Our friend (Korean) was not allowed to date outside of her race. Her parents arranged her marriage and she complied. Her sister was the rebellious one. She fell in love with a Jewish young man and all heck broke loose. Our friend loved to tell the stories of her parents and sister's fighting. :laughing:
 














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