My DD is sick over her college decision & we don't know how to help her. (very long)

To be honest, it appears that your DD has anxiety - not just a fear of going away to college. This anxiety crosses over into other things in her life, so just telling her to go away to the private college will only exacerbate her anxiety issues. Have you ever sought therapy/counseling for her? I take care of many patients that have anxiety issues - and it affects so many other things. This decision is not quite cut and dry.
 
Maybe it depends on where you're from, but I don't think an hour is "away" at all. I live in rural Maine and an hour is nothin' for us. An hour is close enough to come visit on the occasional weekend but far enough to have some space apart. I went 2.5 hours away to school and I didn't think that was far at all.
 
2. IF she decided to change, do you have an inkling of what program she might try to switch into? For example, if you think she might leave PT for nursing . . . do they have a good nursing program at these two schools? Or did she waiver between PT and business? Which of these two schools offers business, if that's her almost-chose-this?

3. You said that the state school is a competative one, whereas you didn't say that about the private school. That leads me to think that IF she changes her mind later, it'd be easier to switch to the private school than it would be to switch to the public school.

4. IF she can't get into the competative state school's PT program when the time comes, she can always fall back on the private school. If she was admitted to the PT program once, she'll have no problem being admitted later (assuming her college grades are good, and since none of your concerns revolved around academics, I assume this something about which you're worried).

No, she's not an adult. She's a high school senior who still lives at home, who has her mom to do her laundry and buy her groceries, and who has to ask permission to go out in the evenings. That's in no way a put-down; it's just where she is in life. Pushing her to be an adult NOW NOW NOW will not help her get over her anxieties.
I just wanted to try to answer some of these questions............

Funny you said nursing or business. She said she would want something medical & nursing would be an option. It would be easy to switch to at the private school & is what the student she spoke with the other day switched to from PT. Her next choice would be business. The private school has business also, but it would be a little trickier to switch to depending on the year she switched. Easy after year 1 - tougher if she decided later on.

If she doesn't decide to go to the private school she would probably not be able to go there next year. Getting in to their program is just as competitive as the University program. After year 1 there are only between 30-40 kids that actually are still in the program.

Thank you for the response about her really not being an adult. You were more tactful than I could have been & that's why I really didn't respond too much to that post. Yes, that is where she is now. My kids are all becoming responsible adults, but I'm not going to push them out in to the world blindly.

GO TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOL--the FYE is the same program my DS has and it is WONDERFUL. It is probably 80% of why he picked that school. A couple things they said they do in the program when we were up with DS signing up for classes is that they keep track of how many times a kid uses their meal card and if they aren't using it enough the RA's will organize a group of people and "casually" drag along the student that isn't going to the dining hall enough. They also said that if you haven't heard your child talk in a positive manner of at least one person several times they want a phone call (they said to give it 3 weeks). They will then make sure everything is ok. They said that the most successful "college students" bond with someone, a roommate, teacher, RA, whatever within 3 weeks. The RA's go through extra training, etc. In DS's school they actually have a one credit class they have to take along with the FYE program that helps them adjust to all things college.
Thank you for posting this. It sounded like a great program & if she does decide on the private school something I definitely want her to get into (& she does also).

The private school has a social networking site set up just for accepted freshman at their school. It's similar to Facebook. Not all the kids on it will actually accept their admittance. So, she created a profile the other day & today she had 10 friend requests from incoming freshman, which she was excited about. One is a kid from her high school that will be going there & will be in the PT program. Her high school is big (a little bigger than the private college). She said she knows the girl, but doesn't know her well - just acquaintances. I'm looking at this as a positive step that she even created the profile.

I'm going to talk to her more later tonight & see what I can get out of her as far as her thoughts.
 
Maybe it depends on where you're from, but I don't think an hour is "away" at all. I live in rural Maine and an hour is nothin' for us. An hour is close enough to come visit on the occasional weekend but far enough to have some space apart. I went 2.5 hours away to school and I didn't think that was far at all.
I guess it does depend on where you're from. Also, the weather in our area is unpredictable in the winter. I don't want my kids having to drive an hour there & back in a snow storm. Too risky.

Her twin will be about 45 minutes away - which is more commutable, but we would prefer that she live on campus, mainly because of the winter driving. It can be brutal in our area.
 

Have you asked the school what would happen if she was not accepted at the three year mark? . . . While it would be nice to stay at home, I am of the belief that students are better off when they live on campus . . . If she already knows some people who attend the private college she is considering, I would highly suggest asking if she could spend the weekend with them.
Asking the school, "What happens if she doesn't get into PT?" is an excellent suggestion. I have no idea the answer to that one. I'd also ask them what percentage of their students are admitted to the program. I mean, if 90% of the kids are accepted, that's one thing . . . if it's more like only 50%, that's something else altogether.

I totally agree that it's BETTER to go away to school, but that's a general "it's better". There are circumstances when it's not the right choice, and this MAY BE one of those. If she's simply not ready, if the maturity and the confidence just aren't there, then she might not do well academically if forced to go. This is one that only the family knows.

Having her go visit friends at the private school is an excellent suggestion. I do not usually advocate kids missing school, but in this situation I'd let my child skip a couple days of class so that she could sit in on some real classes and get a feel for what the school is like. In all fairness, I'd have her do the same thing for the state school so she's ready to make a real decision.
Funny you said nursing or business . . . If she doesn't decide to go to the private school she would probably not be able to go there next year . . . The private school has a social networking site set up just for accepted freshman at their school. It's similar to Facebook
Ha! Lucky guesses on my part. I do think it's important to have some idea of a back-up plan in mind; so often our high school seniors discover that their carefully made plans aren't really what they thought they were. Now that I see from your post that changing schools probably wouldn't be realistic, that means it's even more important to make the right choice now.

To tell you something about myself and changing majors: When I was a high school senior, I wanted to go to school to become a teacher. When it came time to register, my mother told me a bunch of things about teaching -- all 100% true -- that were negative. So I chose a different major . . . and a different major . . . and a different major . . . and a different major. In retrospect, I am very glad that I chose to attend a huge state school; that large school offered many courses of study, and I was able to change without changing schools. Oh, and what'd I end up doing? I graduated, worked a couple years, hated my job, got married, went back to school and earned . . . yes, a teaching degree. I should've realized when my mom was telling me those negative things that a perfect job didn't exist, and I should've stuck to my convictions and just worked towards a teaching degree in the first place. Know why I didn't? At 18 I wasn't an adult yet, and I didn't have the maturity to weigh those choices adequately.

Lots of schools have that Facebook-type thing for their incoming freshmen. My seniors get very excited about those, and I'm sure it makes the transition easier.
Thank you for the response about her really not being an adult. You were more tactful than I could have been & that's why I really didn't respond too much to that post. Yes, that is where she is now. My kids are all becoming responsible adults, but I'm not going to push them out in to the world blindly.
I teach high school seniors, and I know they're not adults. Oh, some of them are 18, but that doesn't mean much. They're not really adults until they have some time out in the real world being responsible for themselves, and I think your daughter may be telling you that she's just not ready to take that step yet. I agree with you that it'd be wrong to shove her out the door while she's sending up red flags and is practically shouting, "Not yet, not yet, I need more time!" Another year could make all the difference in the world.

One more suggestion: She's driving herself crazy. From what I'm hearing, these are BOTH good suggestions, and you'd be pleased with either choice.

I think that if I were in your shoes, I would give her a deadline -- one not too far in the future -- by which she needs to make up her mind. Between now and then, she can visit, she can debate, she can investigate . . . but by whatever date you say is acceptable, she must choose. And then once she's done that, NO MORE discussion. NO second guessing. NO going back to wonder if you've chosen the right path. Once she's chosen, NO lingering over what might have been.

Instead, once the choice is made, celebrate it. Buy her a school sweatshirt, make a cake in school colors (even if that's purple!), and start to talk up the school she's decided upon. Start making definite plans for her commute or her dorm room, whichever might be appropriate. If she chooses the local school, have her investigate the best routes and parking. If she chooses the private school, start shopping for dorm gear. Once she's decided, work hard on making that decision "real" for her.
 
I guess it does depend on where you're from. Also, the weather in our area is unpredictable in the winter. I don't want my kids having to drive an hour there & back in a snow storm. Too risky.

Her twin will be about 45 minutes away - which is more commutable, but we would prefer that she live on campus, mainly because of the winter driving. It can be brutal in our area.

I don't really have any advice about the anxiety, but I do want to address this. I live in NH. 'Nuff said about winter;) I go to school about 45 minutes from home. If she's living in the dorm, I wouldn't worry too much about the driving. Yes, situations CAN arise where you have to get home regardless of weather. Been there, done that, but for the most part, trips home can usually be planned around storms. I don't know where you are, but around here the saying is "if you don't like the weather, wait a minute". In other words, it's extremely unpredictable, especially in the winter. I've been here for 5 years, and, with a little flexibility (packing up fast and hitting the highway a few hours early, getting up early before class on Monday after a weekend at home to drive back, etc) have always been able to travel around the weather, without issue (with the exception of extreme unforseen circumstances where I had no choice to travel in bad weather, but I'd be traveling from somewhere in bad weather regardless in those circumstances).
 
Instead, once the choice is made, celebrate it. Buy her a school sweatshirt, make a cake in school colors (even if that's purple!), and start to talk up the school she's decided upon. Start making definite plans for her commute or her dorm room, whichever might be appropriate. If she chooses the local school, have her investigate the best routes and parking. If she chooses the private school, start shopping for dorm gear. Once she's decided, work hard on making that decision "real" for her.
You must be a relative that is incognito on these boards.............the private school colors are purple & gold! '

Thank you so much for your positive insight & thoughts! Heading upstairs for more talking right now!
 
Instead, once the choice is made, celebrate it. Buy her a school sweatshirt, make a cake in school colors (even if that's purple!), and start to talk up the school she's decided upon. Start making definite plans for her commute or her dorm room, whichever might be appropriate. If she chooses the local school, have her investigate the best routes and parking. If she chooses the private school, start shopping for dorm gear. Once she's decided, work hard on making that decision "real" for her.

I've had purple cake. It is delicious! :rotfl: But I totally agree with this too, be sure to celebrate once the decision is made! Everyone loves cake! ;) Good luck!

Edit: Just read back, yes I do agree that for some students, being on campus and away from the family is not always the best option. Each person is different. It is just nice to leave your dorm room door open though and let random people walk in and introduce themselves while you are watching TV or something. So easy to meet new people. :thumbsup2 Just don't let them borrow your DVDs! You'll have to go hunting to get them back again! :rotfl:
 
You must be a relative that is incognito on these boards.............the private school colors are purple & gold! '

Thank you so much for your positive insight & thoughts! Heading upstairs for more talking right now!
NO WAY! No, we can't be relatives; I have the oldest grandchild/cousin in the family, and she's only a sophomore. My cousin has triplet boys, but no one in our family has twins.

You must think I'm stalking you. I promise I'm not.
 
I had a hard time when I first started school... I drove the 6 hours to "home" every other weekend, and would sometimes call my mom at 1am crying.

I got over that about second semester. Having a new, awesome roommate helped that transition a lot!
 
You must be a relative that is incognito on these boards.............the private school colors are purple & gold! '

Thank you so much for your positive insight & thoughts! Heading upstairs for more talking right now!

Also, my school colors were purple and gold! Yellow cake with vanilla icing - add the purple food coloring. YUM! :thumbsup2
 
Sounds to me like she needs to follow her twin - is that not an option?

Let her talk to someone who does have some regrets of not going off to school - that may help.

Actually if she was mine, I would keep her home 2 yrs to do the jr college & then transfer when she's finished - maybe by then she'll have a better idea of where she wants to go

ALSO I'd set her up with a local PT - let her shadow someone for a day & get the feel of their work - the good & the bad...that'll help a little

GOOD LUCK!
 
One other thought to add a kink into things - I'd check on how easy it really is to transfer. I know from my private college to the public college there are quite a few classes that don't transfer. Of course that's a bit obvious when its a Christian college that requires some christian classes that won't be required at a public school - but that's still money & time that's wasted.
 
Could you make another trip to visit the campus and show that an hour is really not that far away.
I'm pretty sure we are going back tomorrow. They have a "Day In The Life" day tomorrow so she has agreed to go here.

I'll be up at the crack of dawn tomorrow, take my DH to the airport & then head out to be there by 8:30 a.m. :scared1: It's a really inopportune to go as I am supposed to go to a funeral & I'm meeting my DH on Friday (in WDW :cool1:).

Anyway, she shadows current students for the day so she will see what a day would be like for her. She was very excited last night when we went on the web-site & also when she went back to the social networking page to find she had some "new friends".

Sounds to me like she needs to follow her twin - is that not an option?

ALSO I'd set her up with a local PT - let her shadow someone for a day & get the feel of their work - the good & the bad...that'll help a little
No, following her twin is not an option. None of the majors she would be interested in are available at her twin's college choice.

She actually did a PT internship through her high school. It is a 1/2 year course that she had to take. The private school requires 10 hours of PT "shadowing" before entering the program & she has 54.

Her older sister did the PT internship because she thought she would want to do it. Thank goodness she did, because she hated it. Saved us a lot of money in the long run. She is going to school for business & will start her 2nd internship through her college this coming Friday.
 
Emphasize the positive aspects of this time to your DD. She is entering a part of adulthood where she will gradually assume the responsibilities of being an independent person. It is important that she understand that her apprehensions over change are normal--but change is a necessary part of life. And, hard as it may be for her to believe this now, in the years to come she will look back at her college years with great fondness. She will meet life-long friends in college. Perhaps if you were to arrange for her to meet and talk to some of your college friends, she might feel more comfortable, and come to see it as a process that everyone goes through?
 
Anyway, she shadows current students for the day so she will see what a day would be like for her. She was very excited last night when we went on the web-site & also when she went back to the social networking page to find she had some "new friends".

So glad to hear she is excited for the visit! Hopefully this will help calm her fears some. :thumbsup2
 
I have not read all the replies, but I think you really have to take into account what is the best fit for your daughter's personality.

I would have loved for our daughter to go away to school, to experience new places and people, and to be independent, because when I was her age, I couldn't wait to get away from home.

But DD has always been a homebody, and exploring new places and people is not her thing.

If we had "forced" her to go away, she would have been miserable. Not just a little homesick. I'm sure she would have hated every minute and ended up coming home.

I've seen this happen with other kids.

So, DD is going to college at the same university both DH and I teach at. She is living in the dorms, and she sees us a couple of times a week. She has been coming home about every other weekend, and for her, it is perfect.

It really depends on what fits best for each student.
 







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