Multiple ADR's

[Party.Of.4-NY>>>FL]

I cannot see how they can make that many per evening. That being said, they can make multiple ones if they are 1 hour apart. They could make one at different locations 1 hr apart, but I cannot see them doing that more than 3 per night or you would have times you really do not want. I know you can do this because I had 2 on one of our nights. When I made a new reservation, I assumed it would say "do you want to replace so and so" or "cancel" your reservation at so and so before continuing. One time it let me make the reservation without cancelling the other one. I looked and they were 65 minutes apart. So I do know this is possible, but the 7 or 8 doesn't seem probable, unless they are making 2 of each meal, if that is the case, they could have 6 minimum.

It is possible to have as many as you want. Even for the same day and same meal. Just need to create different MDE profiles.

Valid Theme Park tickets are not required to make ADRs. Only a valid credit card to hold the reservation.

I don't know how many people actually go through the trouble of doing this. I had no problems getting all my ADRs at my 180 day mark by simply playing by the rules.

Also I've been reading about people that book a fake trip with an arrival date BEFORE their actual arrival date just to get a jump on the first half of their stay. For example. Let's say you have an arrival date of Jan. 5th and will be staying for 10 days. Everyone knows that you should book hard-to-get ADRs for the end of your stay to increase your chances. But if you also book a fake arrival date of Jan. 1st, you would be able to make ADRs for the first 5 days of your real stay. Then cancel that resort reservation and keep the ADRs. I do think Disney should do something to stop this but I'm not sure if it's worth the time and money to them.

 

[sndral]

Well I think this needs to be addressed by Disney then. They are making a difficult situation even harder. I don't know the solution. Lower time frame for reservations maybe so people will have a better idea of where they want to be that night. But for me during Christmas, it doesn't matter which park as EMH's are usually 12am-2am or something like that. That shouldn't affect anyone's plans so why all multiple ADR's.

Planning a Disney vacation is becoming a pain. But I'll still go

I honestly do not believe that this practice is as rampant as it used to be prior to CC's as a guarantee for the ADR. I know that there are some people have the ability to keep that mess straight, but I do not think there are as many as that CM led the OP to believe.

A few years ago Disney added the cc guarenty and that cut down on ADR hoarders for awhile. My prediction is the next step will be a cancelation fee, which some popular restaurants in other places do. I'm ok with that, but wish they'd go back to 60 or 90 days when presumably park hours and the like are more settled. I'd even be ok w/ having FP+ available before ADRs, so you'd know when to schedule your meal. But IMO the only thing that will stop the hoarders is a cancelation fee applied when you cancel rather than the current fee for no shows. At least the no show fee stopped people from making an ADR at every park and showing at one but not bothering to cancel the others.

 

[Lisa F]

A few years ago Disney added the cc guarenty and that cut down on ADR hoarders for awhile. My prediction is the next step will be a cancelation fee, which some popular restaurants in other places do. I'm ok with that, but wish they'd go back to 60 or 90 days when presumably park hours and the like are more settled. I'd even be ok w/ having FP+ available before ADRs, so you'd know when to schedule your meal. But IMO the only thing that will stop the hoarders is a cancelation fee applied when you cancel rather than the current fee for no shows. At least the no show fee stopped people from making an ADR at every park and showing at one but not bothering to cancel the others.

a cancellation fee would never fly. I think it is pretty easy to get the reservations you want at 180 days out with the system such as it is unless it is during a busy time or during free dining. Get rid of free dining and that just leaves the busy times. People who are reserving now are reserving close to christmas - of course it is going to be more difficult to get what you want. It is nearly impossible during free dining though!

 

[JimmyV]

When I call to make reservations they only allow me to make one reservation per time frame, so three per day....one over breakfast, lunch and dinner.

They actually have to be 65 minutes apart.

Just so that it is clear, and to avoid confusion, it is permissible to make multiple reservations for the same time slot that are not 65 minutes or more apart. But you have to do it by phone. Disney understands that people often travel in large groups, and that the groups often split up for meals. Disney also understands that many/most/all of these people might by listed under one MDE account, so only one person can make the ADR. So if you call them and explain that, they will allow you to book another ADR. For example, on our last trip, my wife and daughter wanted to be in one park for dinner, while my brother, his friend and I were going to be elsewhere. Wife and daughter wanted an ADR at 50's at 7:00 and I wanted an ADR at California Grill for 7:30. I made the California Grill ADR first for four of us, before I knew that there would be a 5th person, and before I knew that we would be splitting up. This ADR was made 180 days out. A week before our trip, I called to change that ADR from 4 people to 3 and then said that I would like a second dinner ADR for the rest of my group at around the same time. No one else in my family has their own account, so the ADR would be in my name, secured with my credit card. So in the end, I had two ADRs in my name, 30 minutes apart, with the full knowledge and support of Disney. So it is possible to hold multiple ADRs. You just have to do it by phone. And doing this is not in any way circumventing Disney policy.

 

[Aliceacc]

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's an idea: make one ADR per day if you're planning one table service meal per day. If you consider changing plans, then consider changing that ADR... see what else is available and whether or not it's worth it to you to change that ADR.

And if your spouse or child or mom can't make it to your late reservation, then you made your ADR too late. Stop, get them a Mickey Bar or something to tide them over.

It's a meal in a theme park, not a kidney transplant.

And "legal" isn't remotely close to the same thing as "right" or "fair."

Seriously, folks. We booked ADRs at 180, and got the ones we wanted. We booked FPs at 60, and got the ones we wanted. And had we not, we would have simply chosen one of the other options.

What we don't want is to teach our kids by example that the world revolves around us.

Had a teenager hoarded the last anything at a time when others wanted the same product, there would be endless versions of "special snowflake" pointed in his direction. The bad news is that apparently snowflakes come in all sizes and ages.

 

[AnnaKat]

It is possible to have as many as you want. Even for the same day and same meal. Just need to create different MDE profiles.

Valid Theme Park tickets are not required to make ADRs. Only a valid credit card to hold the reservation.

I don't know how many people actually go through the trouble of doing this. I had no problems getting all my ADRs at my 180 day mark by simply playing by the rules.

Also I've been reading about people that book a fake trip with an arrival date BEFORE their actual arrival date just to get a jump on the first half of their stay. For example. Let's say you have an arrival date of Jan. 5th and will be staying for 10 days. Everyone knows that you should book hard-to-get ADRs for the end of your stay to increase your chances. But if you also book a fake arrival date of Jan. 1st, you would be able to make ADRs for the first 5 days of your real stay. Then cancel that resort reservation and keep the ADRs. I do think Disney should do something to stop this but I'm not sure if it's worth the time and money to them.

Disney could free up tons of ADRs for ONSITE guests IF they went back to NOT allowing anyone to book an ADR withOUT an onsite resort reservation, until say 30 days out. THAT used to be the policy! As it stands NOW, anybody with a credit card can book say 5 ADRS on the 180th day out, with NO intention of EVEN visiting. THIS is unfair to onsite guests who get up @ the crack of dawn, & NOT ONLY ALREADY have their choices limited due to the legitimate onsite guests having ALREADY booked their ADRs for their 7 plus day trip, preceding the start of your stay,
BUT you NOW are additionally competing with ANY & everyone who books early on THAT SAME 180th day.

As far as booking a fake onsite reservation in order to secure ADRs ahead of the REAL day that you intend to check in, Disney more or less closed that loophole by changing resort reservation modification rules.
A guest is NO longer permitted to drop days off of the front(or end) of their stay.
The entire stay MUST NOW be cancelled AND RE-booked.
In re-booking, your previous free dining deal or room discount would likely be unavailable for the same resort & room category.

ALSO, Disney closed the loophole of booking a FAKE split stay WITH being able to have the Dining CM LINK the 2 onsite resort reservation #s together,
allowing a guest to book 180 + 10, but THEN cancel the second onsite reservation,
WHILST keeping the ADRs for an offsite reservation, already planned.
Disney NO longer allows for linking reservations ( on the CRO side) by Dining CMs.

I suppose IF you plan on staying offsite, you could STILL book a resort onsite to get a leg up on ADRS,
& then cancel the onsite reservation. However, IF Disney CHANGED NON- onsite stay window to LESS THAN 180 days-- even to restrict those offsite ADRs to 90 days out--the benefit of fake onsite reservations
for ADR booking purposes, would GREATLY diminish.

 

[mom2rtk]

One thing is sure. Disney never closes a loophole unless it benefits them. Clearly they are happy with the way things are now or they would take any one or more of the steps we have seen suggested here.

 

[phillymummer]

Disney could free up tons of ADRs for ONSITE guests IF they went back to NOT allowing anyone to book an ADR withOUT an onsite resort reservation, until say 30 days out. THAT used to be the policy! As it stands NOW, anybody with a credit card can book say 5 ADRS on the 180th day out, with NO intention of EVEN visiting. THIS is unfair to onsite guests who get up @ the crack of dawn, & NOT ONLY ALREADY have their choices limited due to the legitimate onsite guests having ALREADY booked their ADRs for their 7 plus day trip, preceding the start of your stay,
BUT you NOW are additionally competing with ANY & everyone who books early on THAT SAME 180th day.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: be careful what you wish for.... if Disney implements that rule, I think you can say goodbye to free dining and other discounts because that policy would motivate more people to stay onsite. More filled rooms means no need to offer discounts.

 

[mom2rtk]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: be careful what you wish for.... if Disney implements that rule, I think you can say goodbye to free dining and other discounts because that policy would motivate more people to stay onsite. More filled rooms means no need to offer discounts.

If Disney thought that would fill more rooms, they would have done it already.

 

[sndral]

One thing is sure. Disney never closes a loophole unless it benefits them. Clearly they are happy with the way things are now or they would take any one or more of the steps we have seen suggested here.

that's what a lot of people said when the cc guarenty was only a rumour. Then Disney instituted the cc guaranty/24 hr. cancelation for ADRs. Likewise more recently they changed their booking policies to end overbooking the no. of days in a stay then shaving off beginning or ending parts of a trip.
So just because they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they won't in the future, or that they are happy with how things are IME. Plus once they decide to change things all their software has to be updated and staff trained, so there's a lag time between seeing a problem, deciding on a solution and then finally actually implementing the solution.

 

[mom2rtk]

that's what a lot of people said when the cc guarenty was only a rumour. Then Disney instituted the cc guaranty/24 hr. cancelation for ADRs. Likewise more recently they changed their booking policies to end overbooking the no. of days in a stay then shaving off beginning or ending parts of a trip.
So just because they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they won't in the future, or that they are happy with how things are IME. Plus once they decide to change things all their software has to be updated and staff trained, so there's a lag time between seeing a problem, deciding on a solution and then finally actually implementing the solution.

I'm not saying it won't happen. When Disney sees the cost of not closing the loophole outweighing the cost of closing it, they'll close it.

 

[hou2009]

I'm pretty sure there was a glitch with the mobile app. When my window opened up in the spring, I wasn't really happy with what I'd booked. It seemed like nothing was available. I couldn't believe it. Then several days later by accident I stumbled upon the fact that I could book multiple reservations for the same day/time, even in multiple parks, using the same account. I was shocked as I'd read online that this wasn't allowed, but it made sense to me why I'd had such a hard time getting anything I'd wanted. What a fabulous change, I'd thought. Amazing! I think this was back in April or May. I figured disney had changed its policy. Consequently I made reservations all the hell all over the place, scooping up whatever I could get. It became like a game. I figured everyone else had done the same, and that I'd cancel any extras after my FPs were booked. Then the app was updated recently, maybe within the last month. I saw an ADR that I wanted, and when I tried to book it, it showed the long list of other reservations on the same day/time that would be canceled if I agreed --like a swap. A-ha, I thought. Disney has caught on and fixed the glitch. Since my plans are more solid, I've since gone through and canceled all of my extra ADRs. I no longer have any duplicates. BUT how many other 100s or 1000s of people are hanging on to those. Who knows. My advice would be to check the app frequently if there's something you want. I imagine that eventually people will be forced to cancel as they adjust plans, as I was.

 

[notrub98]

While I do sympathize, for me, I see nothing wrong with multiple ADRs simply because Disney has forced my hand by not providing accurate schedules, park hours, showtimes / fireworks. No, I am not willing to skip CRT when my daughter is only 5 and in love with Cinderella once. I am not going to tell my 7 year old that he can't meet his favorite (Stitch) at OHana because we have to be unexpectedly at AK that day because Rivers of Light finally gets its act together, or that is the only night for the Star Wars fireworks so we have to skip that BOG dinner. It isn't fair to anyone how things are being handled right now.

So while I would normally agree that ADR hoarding is not the right thing to do, I also feel strongly that until Disney starts being fair to its consumers by providing schedules, I can understand why people feel they need to do this. We all have to remember - we are all doing our best in a difficult Disney planning environment these days.

One thing to note - Touring Plans must have caught on too. It seems you can no longer book a conflicting reservation with something you already have booked. It comes up with the Stitch "someone ate the page" screen every single time if I have a conflict, but goes through just fine if I don't have a conflict. I have just noticed that this started within the past week. So, that should help those having trouble.

 

[toonaspie]

Well I kinda feel guilty now. I made a couple of reservations for the same restaraunt each day (one for lunch, one for dinner). Rest assured, one of those times WILL BE CANCELED before it's time for my vacay once I consider whether lunch or dinner would be a less stressful time.

I think if more people send their complaints to Disney about the 180 day ADR, maybe they'll start to reconsider things. I'm surprised they haven't even thought of changing this yet considering how long MyMagic+ has been implemented.

 

[mom2rtk]

Well I kinda feel guilty now. I made a couple of reservations for the same restaraunt each day (one for lunch, one for dinner). Rest assured, one of those times WILL BE CANCELED before it's time for my vacay once I consider whether lunch or dinner would be a less stressful time.

I think if more people send their complaints to Disney about the 180 day ADR, maybe they'll start to reconsider things. I'm surprised they haven't even thought of changing this yet considering how long MyMagic+ has been implemented.

You made ADRs for the same restaurant, for both lunch and dinner, each day of your trip?

Maybe I read that wrong.

 

[toonaspie]

You made ADRs for the same restaurant, for both lunch and dinner, each day of your trip?

Maybe I read that wrong.

LOL. Well it's only for two days where I reserved lunch and dinner in the same restaraunt. One of them I'm almost certain I know which time to drop. The other I'm still on the fence about.

 

[DrunkJam]

Yes, I was really surprised this is allowed.
I get everyone wants the best vacation, but, it seems horrible to book more than you need.
There should be a rule saying maximum 1 dinner, one lunch and one breakfast per day. No one needs more meals per day than that.
The menus are available, everyone has to book in advance, choose what you want and stick with it. If you really can't. then you have to try and find what you change your mind to when you change your mind.