More from the war on birth control!

[poohandwendy]

BC pills are a few hundred dollars a year.....having a baby in a hospital is several thousand.

So, if I was a business person with a brain in my head, yeah, I'd cover birth control.

Actually insurance complanies are slightly more savvy than that. They use figures to compute the costs vs the benefits. They apparently have come to the conclusion that not covering BC is not stopping women from not having babies, if they do not want them.

 

[jodifla]

She got hers an paid for it herself, is that too much to ask you do do also?

My company always took care of all our healthcare needs; and now my DH's company does, so for me personally it's not an issue.

Again, my bigger concern is the new push from the Religious Right: Abstinence for married people, and the abolishment of hormonal birth control.

 

[Planogirl]

Preventative medicine has always been something that the insurance companies at least try to avoid covering. I need certain medication and I've had more than one insurance company balk at paying for certain items saying that they were "only" preventative.

It's also supposedly why many insurance companies refuse to pay for mole checks at dermatologists. Again, they call this preventative and not necessary.

I still think it's silly since a pregnancy, a stroke or cancer will cost them far more than a bit of preventative care.

 

[eyeoreismyhero]

My company always took care of all our healthcare needs; and now my DH's company does, so for me personally it's not an issue.

Again, my bigger concern is the new push from the Religious Right: Abstinence for married people, and the abolishment of hormonal birth control.

And you got this from the article you quoted! Okay?

 

[binny]

Btw, the bolded portion is just someone with an agenda who testified, not the people 'shaping our laws'. You don't think there were people with opposing agendas testifying?

This is much ado about nuthin....

isnt it always though?


This is NOT a "Religous Right" issue. This is just an issue of some people who dont want women to have access. Why isnt it covered? I have no idea. It would be nice if it were. But it wasnt for years and now in some places it is, thats great.

Just because some whacko testified at a hearing doesnt make her word gospel for all of us who lean to the right.



When we will we EVER get over the "Us Vs Them" mentality on this board????

 

[jodifla]

And you got this from the article you quoted! Okay?

Actually, it comes from spending time on the Eagle Forum's web sites, along with other Radical Right web sites.

You'd be surprised what they have in store for us. And now that they have themselves elected into local levels all over the country, they are pushing those laws into state legislatures.

 

[nuke]

I think the "It's not a necessary medicine" argument doesn't hold water. What about toe fungus pills? Certainly not life threatening, definately gross but the pills are covered. How about ringworm cream? Not gonna kill you, why is that covered?

The thing that gets me is any drug that men "need" (viagra) is covered automatically. Yet women have to fight for coverage.

 

[In a hurry]

I think the "It's not a necessary medicine" argument doesn't hold water. What about toe fungus pills? Certainly not life threatening, definately gross but the pills are covered. How about ringworm cream? Not gonna kill you, why is that covered?

The thing that gets me is any drug that men "need" (viagra) is covered automatically. Yet women have to fight for coverage.

Viagra isn't covered by many insurance policies. Many need prior authorization.

 

[eyeoreismyhero]

I think the "It's not a necessary medicine" argument doesn't hold water. What about toe fungus pills? Certainly not life threatening, definately gross but the pills are covered. How about ringworm cream? Not gonna kill you, why is that covered?

The thing that gets me is any drug that men "need" (viagra) is covered automatically. Yet women have to fight for coverage.

Toe fungus pills are prescribed after the cause, so you have cause and effect. There is no cause for birth control pills to be taken for the majority of the population. Hold on ladies I didn't say all of ya!

 

[MrsKreamer]

Go to your local govenrment health dept. They will gladly give you bc pills, or depo shots for free or at a lower cost. That's what I did. You go once for a physical and they give you a 3 month supply. You go back and then they give you a year's supply. I really don't have a problem with Health insurance not covering it. Since the poor don't normally have insurance, they can get it for free at Health depts. It's everyone else that don't want to shell out the $40 a month for it. Still most people can get them really cheap or free...

 

[eyeoreismyhero]

Go to your local govenrment health dept. They will gladly give you bc pills, or depo shots for free or at a lower cost. That's what I did. You go once for a physical and they give you a 3 month supply. You go back and then they give you a year's supply. I really don't have a problem with Health insurance not covering it. Since the poor don't normally have insurance, they can get it for free at Health depts. It's everyone else that don't want to shell out the $40 a month for it. Still most people can get them really cheap or free...

What out, Jodifla will be blasting you on how the Religious right is trying to close down the health dept.

 

[In a hurry]

What out, Jodifla will be blasting you on how the Religious right is trying to close down the health dept.

Well, they are evil, and out to get everyone..

 

[nwdisgal]

BC isn't a necessary med. Not covered by many plans. Speech therapy...not necessary, not covered. Anti nausea meds for chemo...not necessary or covered. I had to pick up the chemo med from a different state personally for my insurance to cover. Everything can't be covered.

Speech therapy...not necessary, not covered. I strongly disagree with that. That said, this thread is about birth control, so I'll save my speech therapy pulpit for another day.

OP I get what your saying on the birth control coverage. Yep I am concerned about where it starts and ends. You know that saying though, people don't really care about losing rights until it personally affects them.

 

[jodifla]

Well, they are evil, and out to get everyone..

Actually, the new move that the Religious Right is doing is trying to restrict all birth control for those under 18. In fact, there a bill right now being put forth in Arizona that would prohibit even Planned Parenthood from helping those under 18 with birth control. And in Kansas, the move is to start charging those under 15 with crimes for even heavy petting, much less sex. According to the attorney general in that state, they can be reported by their doctors and jailed for asking about birth control.


After the Religious Right gets that accomplished, they'll start moving on restrictions for those of us older than 18.

 

[jodifla]

Speech therapy...not necessary, not covered. I strongly disagree with that. That said, this thread is about birth control, so I'll save my speech therapy pulpit for another day.

OP I get what your saying on the birth control coverage. Yep I am concerned about where it starts and ends. You know that saying though, people don't really care about losing rights until it personally affects them.

Thank you for getting it! A lot of these folks won't believe it until they wake up and read in the newspaper that their state has outlawed birth control pills and IUDs.

I agree with you on speech therapy, too! Go start a thread!

 

[In a hurry]

Speech therapy...not necessary, not covered. I strongly disagree with that. That said, this thread is about birth control, so I'll save my speech therapy pulpit for another day.

OP I get what your saying on the birth control coverage. Yep I am concerned about where it starts and ends. You know that saying though, people don't really care about losing rights until it personally affects them.

Chemo meds were necessary, however. And, sure I've had to pay for my own birth control for years...so, I guess it has "affected" me for years! But I don't live in a fairy tale world where decisions are based on morals. They are based on the almighty $$. Would I change some things if I could wave my magic wand , sure I would!

I think that the paranoia of the "right" taking control is as out of place as the "rights" paranoia of the the "lefts." No difference.

 

[minkydog]

So, since it's not an issue for you anymore, to heck with all the women around the country, right? They're on their own. You got yours.

Well, people have been controlling their births for a long time prior to the advent of the Pill. There are many forms of birth control that are not expensive, but if you want to take the Pill, then I guess you'll have to pay for the privelege.

I pay a high premium to take the anti-depressant of my choice. It works best for me. My insurer wants me to pay for a cheaper generic drug which gives me side effects. I choose not to do that, so I have to pay out of pocket. I don't expect anyone else to pay for it.

If using BCPs is such an issue, then perhaps it needs to go into the household budget, right along with the cabel bill and trips to WDW

 

[golfgal]

I don't know of any businesses that have hearing aid coverage either, they are deemed a "quality of life" issue vs a medical necessity, but they cover Viagra (yes, many companies DO have this coverage).

 

[Galahad]

And when the people from the Eagle Forum get their way, no one will have any access to hormonal birth control.

Thankfully, psychotropics are usually covered.

 

[goofygirl]

If they don't want to cover birth control, then they should at least cover the abortion I'd have if I got pregnant. (Oh wait...the Right doesn't think I should have THAT right either!)