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Any suggestions about what any of you have learned about ownership, points, trading, dates, is there anything you have learned the hard way. Anything that makes your experiences easier for your family? (We have a 6 year old daughter and 1 year old grandson we will be traveling with) Ownership is new to us but have been to Disney 10+ times. Every single time has been different but a lot of fun. Disney changes and we need help please
 
Any suggestions about what any of you have learned about ownership, points, trading, dates, is there anything you have learned the hard way. Anything that makes your experiences easier for your family? (We have a 6 year old daughter and 1 year old grandson we will be traveling with) Ownership is new to us but have been to Disney 10+ times. Every single time has been different but a lot of fun. Disney changes and we need help please

Where do you own? And Welcome!:welcome:
 
First, read all the stickies at the top of these DVC threads.
Second, read as many posts under these topics as you can.
While doing one and two understand the following terms:
UY
MF
HR
11 month and 7 month booking windows
Concierge Collection
RCI
CM
MS
Direct vs resale
Rule of 4
Once you have a full understanding of these terms.
Then read some more.
 
I have a DD10 and DGS4 whom I have legal custody. So. We’ve been park commandos since they were 6 and 1.

Related to being a frequent flyer staying on site (and AP holder):

1. Rope drop, skip middle of day, hit a different park in the evening.

Ride standby for first two hours. If park opens at 9, book first FP at 10. Ride standby until almost 11. Use 10 FP at the end of its window and then 11 FP at the beginning. Explore a bit, hit 12 FP and pretty much leave the park.

On way back to room, book 4th FP at different park (more on this later).

Go back to resort, swim, nap, crafts with kids, Disney Springs, whatever.

Different park in evening, use extra FPs. Relax.

This method of touring allows you to miss the largest crowds, highest temps, and longest waits. It lets you take a midday nap to recharge for evening. It lets you take advantage of a kitchen or kitchenette for lunch.

Every tour plan says this is the way to tour and it works because people are unwilling to get up early to rope drop on vacation. That’s why midday naps were invented.

2. Learn rider swapping (for kids too young to ride). With rider swap, the older kid can double up rides, or you can effectively double the number of FPs. Or both.

Example You and DD book SM, your DW and DGS books Speedway 30 min later. You and DD ride SM with FP and get rider swap. Then DW and DD ride on the ride swap.

Then you go to Speedway and DW and DD (using DGS band which is still legal if grand child is in the park with you) ride Speedway and get ride swap. Next you and DD ride on rideswap.

She rode both rides twice, both adults rode once, and you’ve collectively used 1 of your three FPs.

3. Extra FPs. When you search a time for a 4th FP, you apparently capture a range of options until you choose one or search again. Then those options are released for others to search.

In the meantime hundreds of people are searching and at any given time, thousands of FP options are in play, being held and released.

Also, as people change their plans on the fly, they are releasing their FPs during the day, even premium ones. Plus, WDW releases premium FPs intraday in small amounts.

So. The trick here is to not accept the first choices given with a 4th FP search. Toggle between different time requests and keep releasing and researching. Something good almost always comes up, even if it takes a few minutes.

You aren’t just waiting for someone to dump something good or WDW to add something good. You’re also wading through the random and constant hold and releases.

This is probably the most (shhhh don’t share and ruin it for those in the know) trick I know. Extra FP hunting works, but you have to hunt and not assume that the first choices given to you are the only ones available. They are not.
 
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This is probably the most (shhhh don’t share and ruin it for those in the know) trick I know. Extra FP hunting works, but you have to hunt and not assume that the first choices given to you are the only ones available. They are not.

You broke our golden rule! Sorry we have to revoke your extra FP privileges your 90 days. lol
 
First, read all the stickies at the top of these DVC threads.
Second, read as many posts under these topics as you can.
While doing one and two understand the following terms:
UY
MF
HR
11 month and 7 month booking windows
Concierge Collection
RCI
CM
MS
Direct vs resale
Rule of 4
Once you have a full understanding of these terms.
Then read some more.
 
Thank you. We are excited about our choices and although my daughter and I will travel overseas more than my husband will. We will use the points in both ways. Questions... 1)sticky notes?lol Where can I find a list of abrivations? Again thank you for your response
 
You broke our golden rule! Sorry we have to revoke your extra FP privileges your 90 days. lol
I have a DD10 and DGS4 whom I have legal custody. So. We’ve been park commandos since they were 6 and 1.

Related to being a frequent flyer staying on site (and AP holder):

1. Rope drop, skip middle of day, hit a different park in the evening.

Ride standby for first two hours. If park opens at 9, book first FP at 10. Ride standby until almost 11. Use 10 FP at the end of its window and then 11 FP at the beginning. Explore a bit, hit 12 FP and pretty much leave the park.

On way back to room, book 4th FP at different park (more on this later).

Go back to resort, swim, nap, crafts with kids, Disney Springs, whatever.

Different park in evening, use extra FPs. Relax.

This method of touring allows you to miss the largest crowds, highest temps, and longest waits. It lets you take a midday nap to recharge for evening. It lets you take advantage of a kitchen or kitchenette for lunch.

Every tour plan says this is the way to tour and it works because people are unwilling to get up early to rope drop on vacation. That’s why midday naps were invented.

2. Learn rider swapping (for kids too young to ride). With rider swap, the older kid can double up rides, or you can effectively double the number of FPs. Or both.

Example You and DD book SM, your DW and DGS books Speedway 30 min later. You and DD ride SM with FP and get rider swap. Then DW and DD ride on the ride swap.

Then you go to Speedway and DW and DD (using DGS band which is still legal if grand child is in the park with you) ride Speedway and get ride swap. Next you and DD ride on rideswap.

She rode both rides twice, both adults rode once, and you’ve collectively used 1 of your three FPs.

3. Extra FPs. When you search a time for a 4th FP, you apparently capture a range of options until you choose one or search again. Then those options are released for others to search.

In the meantime hundreds of people are searching and at any given time, thousands of FP options are in play, being held and released.

Also, as people change their plans on the fly, they are releasing their FPs during the day, even premium ones. Plus, WDW releases premium FPs intraday in small amounts.

So. The trick here is to not accept the first choices given with a 4th FP search. Toggle between different time requests and keep releasing and researching. Something good almost always comes up, even if it takes a few minutes.

You aren’t just waiting for someone to dump something good or WDW to add something good. You’re also wading through the random and constant hold and releases.

This is probably the most (shhhh don’t share and ruin it for those in the know) trick I know. Extra FP hunting works, but you have to hunt and not assume that the first choices given to you are the only ones available. They are not.
 
The kid swap is brilliant! Thank you.Thank you for your reply! We already do the fast pass scenario you describedI did not have luck with you secret last visit but was told that might be the case and to look always around 12-2.
 
Thank you. We are excited about our choices and although my daughter and I will travel overseas more than my husband will. We will use the points in both ways. Questions... 1)sticky notes?lol Where can I find a list of abrivations? Again thank you for your response

"Travel overseas" and "use points both ways"? As in trade out of DVC?

My tip then is the value of DVC is in using it for DVC resorts. Anything else is leaving money on the table you don't need to. You're almost always better off renting out your DVC and paying cash for other stays. DVC is best for people who plan to travel to Disney every year or every other year. Is that the plan?
 
Yes that is the plan!!! But this year we are going the the Paris property!
Have a blast! But I wouldn’t use points to stay there-it’s a bad use of your points financially. You can always rent them out and use the cash for a hotel room and come out ahead.
 
I would add to the list above @com_op_2000 to fully understand banking and borrowing. Very easy to put yourself in a bind with points if you don't understand the rules. And, welcome home, neighbor!
 
If you're looking for Disneyland Paris, check all the european websites:
Www.disneylandparis.co.uk .fr .it .de .nl .ei
Once you navigate the uk version you pretty much can navigate the others without much problems and google translate can help too.
Each country website can have different offers, so it's worth to check them all. All offers include tickets for lenght of stay (checkin and checkout days included). Some offer free half board, other kids under 12 play free, others 2 free night for 2 purchased. Sometime 40% discount.
Once you found the offer you like, call the wdw number and ask to talk with the DLP booking center they'll forward your call without having to pay international rates. Then tell them which country offer you want to book. Booking is not restricted by country of residence.
You can save a ton going this route.

I suggest to book an onsite resort for the days you plan in the parks and an hotel in central Paris for your days in the city. The train from DLP to the city center is very convenient and it takes only 45 minutes, but why take it every day twice when you can stay in the city center for less?
 



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