Mission Space Interior Photo

[raidermatt]

One other thing...

Folks can complain about Mega:Spinners and vomit inducing launches being all Mission:Space is about, but if this info proves to be reliable that may be an incorrect assumption.

For some of us, this would be more accurately termed as a concern, rather than an assumption.

 

[DisneyKidds]

But honestly, doesn't this sound like it could have actually been a press release?

Not really. "Cheek muscles" is not someting I'd expect from the spin machine .

I have a healty level of skepticism on this, as with anything else. I'm not searching for good signs or bad signs as I don't want to pre-judge or get a preconcieved notion in my head. This stuff is interesting to read, but my only opinion or judgement comes the minute I step off the ride.

Your a pretty straight shooter and seem to be a fair guy and I believe that you only have a "concern", but don't you agree there are others who have their assumptions all lined up?

 

[Another Voice]

Sorry, I've worked far too long in Hollywood not to be able to smell a plant.

 

[All Aboard]

Yep, AV - hit the gullable teenie bopper discussion board where they'll take it hook, line and sinker. Don't bring that weak game into our house

 

[raidermatt]

Sorry, I've worked far too long in Hollywood not to be able to smell a plant.

Yep, AV - hit the gullable teenie bopper discussion board where they'll take it hook, line and sinker. Don't bring that weak game into our hous

Note to self - Sometimes the direct way is the best way!

 

[ChrisFL]

Anyone notice the image was taken down from that posting?

 

[Mooobooks]

I've never seen so many people with so many opinions about a ride that anyone has yet to experience and tell us about.
This whole thread is a real crock!
It's obvious that some people are writing about "Soarin' Over California" who've never been on the ride and have no idea what they're talking about. "Soarin'" includes not only a huge Omni-Max circular concave screen, but seating that hangs from arms which are motion simulators. Wind is blown in your face and scents are pumped into the theater at times appropriate to what is shown on the screen (i.e., you smell oranges when flying over orange groves).
When you talk about a ride that leaves people grinning from ear to ear as they exit, you define "Soarin' Over California." The huge lines there are not just a reflection of the fact that it happens to be the best ride in California Adventure, but those lines would (in my opinion) be replicated in any park in which they build a clone. (And I hope they build one in Florida damn soon!)
"Soarin' Over California" is a happy happy ride: it simulates the dreams many of us have had about flying. Think about it if you've been on the ride: our dreams of flight are gentle and mysterious. "Soarin" replicates these dreams and is a ride on which I've never seen anyone get sick. Everyone leaves, and is extremely happy (people often burst into spontaneous applause at the end), and they want to ride again. After riding "Soarin" I have some idea of what it might be like to simply walk off the edge of a building and fly around.
"Mission Space" appears to be the antithesis of "Soarin": Mission is going to be a balls to the wall thrill ride. "Soarin" is a happy ride, not a pulse-accelerating thrill ride. "Soarin" is a ride that has nothing to do with speed, nothing to do with claustrophobia, and nothing to do with duplicating any actual human experience: Soarin is a fantasy made real.
"Mission Space" appears to want to duplicate for the theme park visitor the actual physical experience of being in a rocket. That means claustrophia, looking out little windows, physical discomfort as you're pushed back into your chair by G forces, throwing up, and terror. For many this will be extremely exciting, though I hope they tone it down so we don't all take a "barf shower" in the pod.
The imagineers are trying to give what appears to be as realistic a duplication as possible. And I think that stupid composite picture of the interior of the pod with an entirely open front in an attempt to meld Mission Space with Soarin over California is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. And I don't want to hear about "woulda, shoulda, and coulda." Go read some books on cognitive therapy and figure out why you're disappointed in most things.
Finally, Horizons and World of Motion were outdated and dreary rides. Really. (I'm a Disney freak and I love AA figures and all of that stuff, but a few honest words now and then don't hurt.) They didn't have the kitsch value or iconic status of Pirates of the Caribbean or Carousel of Progress, and they deserved to be replaced with rides like Test Track and Mission Space.
And what's with the bashing of Test Track? Who doesn't love it? Look at the length of the lines! How can you argue with the ride when the lines are huge? Always huge! The patrons of Epcot love Test Track. Just because YOU think it could've been better, or something else, is YOUR problem.
The only downside to the replacing of Horizons and World of Motion with attractions like Test Track and Mission Space is that there is now less for families to do together than there used to be, and rides like TT and MS MUST be balanced by the opening of other rides that the whole family can enjoy together.
Until Mission Space opens, or we have eyewitness accounts from half a dozen unbiased people who've been in there during test and adjust, you should all keep your yaps shut!

 

[raidermatt]

Mooobooks- Decaf. Think about it.

Scoop/Chris- I posted a "what happened" question on the thread over there...I'll let you know if I get a response.

 

[Mooobooks]

Nice to see some substantive responses ....

 

[Testtrack321]

Moobrooks, were we sepereated at birth?

I AGREE TOTALY!!!!

As for the no pic, that's wierd. But look for the first M:S ride review on the page!!!

 

[Mooobooks]

Testtrack: we might have been separated at birth except for one thing. I can spell!

 

[raidermatt]

Nice to see some substantive responses ....

You get what you give...

 

[d-r]

Hi everyone,
I've been traveling and without an internet connection for a few days and I missed the picture; if anyone had it on their hard drive could you e-mail it to me at meece@msu.edu? Thanks so much-
DR

 

[OnWithTheShow]

Few people seem to realize that modern spaceflight features small windows and controls. Check out some of these pictures.


http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/STS49/10065168.jpg
http://zeno.grc.nasa.gov/images/c92/c92_7100s/92_7170l.jpg
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/STS52/10065330.jpg
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/images/pao/STS50/10065260.jpg
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/559213.jpg
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/0201798.jpg

 

[morphi]

It's obvious that some people are writing about "Soarin' Over California" who've never been on the ride and have no idea what they're talking about. "Soarin'" includes not only a huge Omni-Max circular concave screen, but seating that hangs from arms which are motion simulators. Wind is blown in your face and scents are pumped into the theater at times appropriate to what is shown on the screen

I'm not sure if you were referring to me, but I made it clear I have not experienced Soarin'. I simply used it as an example of a ride with a large screen that provides a compelling experience in part due to its expansive view. It seems we agree on this point, since you decry the "little windows" provided by M:S.

"Soarin" is a ride that has nothing to do with speed, nothing to do with claustrophobia, and nothing to do with duplicating any actual human experience: Soarin is a fantasy made real.

I thought Soarin' was based on flying a hang-glider or ultra-light? In the same way that Soarin' allows one to experience the dream of flight, I want M:S to allow guests to experience the dream of space flight. As stated earlier, I think the most compelling aspects of this dream are the various G forces AND the emotional impact of the sights available in outer space. The contract of the thrills and serenity would make for a very compelling attraction.

And I think that stupid composite picture of the interior of the pod with an entirely open front in an attempt to meld Mission Space with Soarin over California is ridiculous.

I thought the picture was great, but I wouldn't want it implemented exactly as it appeared. I was expecting something between that view and the puny monitors it appears the ride may actually provide. Probably closer to that half-sphere bay of windows on the Millennium Falcon that Han Solo and Luke Skywalker sat in to shoot at the attacking fighters. The screen with the projected images for M:S would be beyond that window.

 

[crusader]

So let me see if I understand this correctly. While experiencing what a true space flight goes through during blastoff, surviving the g's and feeling weightless, we are supposed to relax, kick back and enjoy a widescreen panoramic view of space and all say aaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!! (Coupled with an aesthetically pleasing pod interior of course!)

Exactly how long do you expect to be in these pods riding this attraction? (4 bays - 10 pods/bay - 4 person seating) You do the math.

why not just bring back the footage of "if you had wings" so we can have another feel good transport ride.

Lets try and realistically debate the technological components of the imagineering vs engineering aspects of what is being attempted here. It is unprecedented.

 

[All Aboard]

Moobooks, you see it's a "discussion" board. So, telling folks to "keep their yaps shut" defeats its purpose. Further, this is the rumors board. We discuss things here that aren't yet known. As you so astutely pointed out, Mission:Space is not yet open. Therefore, it's still in the rumor phase. So, whatever discussion we have about it is based on reports and photos. We enjoy this sort of conversation here, and it's why Pete Werner decided to have a this particular board amongst his other boards.

Thanks for the advice, but I'll keep my yap wide open for now.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Few people seem to realize that modern spaceflight features small windows and controls. Check out some of these pictures.

Of course they do, just not in the proximity and configuration shown in the photo. If what we saw in the photo are supposed to be windows, a great deal of realism goes out the window, IMHO. Maybe you know more than I do (as I don't know much, other than what I have read) about what the ride component of this attraction will entail, but I didn't get the impression that the screen (or window?) that we see was going to be used to show us the view one gets from outer space. I was under the impression that the screen would be used in conjunction with the controls to complete a mission. Seems cool to me. Put us under the stress of liftoff and the feeling of weightlessness and have us actually try and complete a task, rather than just hold on for the ride. Kind of get an appreciation for what an astronaut actually does. Concept art of what that mission would be did not include a view of the cosmos.

 

[morphi]

So let me see if I understand this correctly. While experiencing what a true space flight goes through during blastoff, surviving the g's and feeling weightless, we are supposed to relax, kick back and enjoy a widescreen panoramic view of space and all say aaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!

You aren't supposed to relax and kick-back during lift-off any more than real astronauts do (they don't, I'm sure it's a very busy and stressful time). However, there is time once in space where there is down-time and astronauts have time to reflect on the impressive views that space affords. This ride can provide BOTH. The G forces and action of lift-off and re-entry as well as a serene time of reflection between that. Here's what I wrote on page 4 of this thread:

This ride can have both thrills and an emotional impact. Imagine the great physical thrill of experiencing the g-forces of lift-off and a brief time of weightlessness as one enters space. A great physical thrill can also be had while the ship is still in space as it swerves to avoid asteroids or what not, Finally, there could be thrills associated with re-entry and landing. BUT, smack in the middle of all of this action, the ride would slow down and present a serene view of the Earth as it is alone in space againsta field of stars. The lingering image could be bright and clear with a serene piece of music playing in the background (or silence). In contract to the busy-ness of the rest of the ride experience, this portion would cause guests to reflect on humanity, our shared planet, and the far reaches of space. Then... back to the action. This contrast of action/thrills vs. serenity/contemplation could make this ride great.

 

[Mooobooks]

You can dicuss rumors all you want--that's one thing. I enjoy this board when it fulfills its function.
But having extended discussions on why a ride that no one has yet experienced is a piece of crap is not what a rumors board should be about.
That's what a "judgement" board might be about.
Or perhaps you can no longer tell the difference?

Keep yammering all you want. It's fine, and makes sense, to discuss rumors about Mission Space. But personally, I think anyone who makes statements about how disappointed they are in Mission Space needs to keep quiet until they've actually been on the ride. In fact, I think anyone who makes statements about how disappointed they are based on rumor needs to see a psychiatrist! Get a life!