Miley Cyrus engaged

[Coconut36]

It's funny because one has nothing to do with the other. Just because you may have gotten married at age 19, has no bearing on whether my marriage at age 19 will be successful or not.

Successful marriages are determined by a host of factors, of which age could be one of them.

If Miley is mature enough to be married and stay married in Hollywood for the long haul, then that will be considered a success in and of itself.

I do believe though that age in terms of a person's maturity has a lot to do with whether marriages are successful or not. And most people I know at age 19, are definitely not anywhere near mature enough to be married.

That's great that some people were married at age 19 and have successful marriages, but that is not something that I will encourage for my children at all. That being said, Miley is in a different place than most 19 year olds, in that she has money, big house, cars, etc. in terms of financial security, and she also has been living on her own for several years now, so for them as a couple, they have probably already been living together, so getting married may not be that big of a step for them.

Tiger

What's the big deal? Why do you care who is relating stories about their marriages?

I would speculate most responded the way they did (indicating their age and how long they have been married) because at least one post here seems to imply that it some shocking "Hollywood thing" to get married at 19 and I think people are simply trying to point out it is hardly a "Hollywood" thing as many people get married at that age (or younger) and have long happy married lives.

 

[BroganMc]

Wow, I'm surprised by all the cynical posts. Makes some of you sound worse than Middle Schoolers. Jealous much?

Hey, at least they are getting married. Better than the Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie version of romance where they play house for so many years their children beg them to get married.

Miley and Liam have been dating for 3 years. She's lived an emancipated life that puts her on par with your average mid-20's woman. Sure she's young and sure she's living in that backwards Hollywood world, but she's also got a country music traditional upbringing. And she hasn't seemed to screw up her life with drugs and alcohol like other Disney starlets (Britney and Lindsay?).

Call me a hopeless romantic but I wish them well. Even if there turns out to be a baby on the way, they've at least shown some maturity in taking responsibility for themselves. I have a lot more respect for people who make a commitment to family (marriage and children) than a selfish out. I'm really sick to death of people trashing marriage.

 

[cornflake]

Guess she wants to get that first marriage out of the way to put her in the running for adult movie roles and/or make her relevant again. I don't think it'll help, but I think she and her handlers probably think it will. Does she do anything atm? When's the last time she did anything besides run about flashing her chest for the paparazzi?

Miley and Liam have been dating for 3 years. She's lived an emancipated life that puts her on par with your average mid-20's woman. Sure she's young and sure she's living in that backwards Hollywood world, but she's also got a country music traditional upbringing. And she hasn't seemed to screw up her life with drugs and alcohol like other Disney starlets (Britney and Lindsay?).

The mid-20s women I know are educated and can string together a sentence. Miley Cyrus is some serious backwoods....

As for the drugs and other such things, there are more pics and videos of Cyrus smoking up than there are of Spears, afaik. Spears is bonkers and I wouldn't be surprised if she was on stuff but she's not known as a stoner and Cyrus is.

 

[Disney Ella]

It will be interesting to see if they actually get married. So many celebrity engagements (like marriages) seem to end, even if they have been together for a few years.

 

[Tiger926]

What's the big deal? Why do you care who is relating stories about their marriages?

I would speculate most responded the way they did (indicating their age and how long they have been married) because at least one post here seems to imply that it some shocking "Hollywood thing" to get married at 19 and I think people are simply trying to point out it is hardly a "Hollywood" thing as many people get married at that age (or younger) and have long happy married lives.

I don't care, just discussing since it's a dicussion board.

In my world, it is pretty shocking to get married at age 19, but not shocking in a negative or looking down way, but in a way that no one gets married so young around here. Like I said, the average age for first marriages is approaching 30 here in Canada, and that is a far cry from 19, and there are many reasons for that. I would hardly say though because a few message board people have indicated they got married at age 19 means that it's common, because it really isn't for most people.

As I also stated, Miley has been living an adultish life for years, so she's on a facetrack in that respect, so since they've been dating for several years, house, careers, etc., she probably has felt like an adult for quite awhile, and this might just be the next logical step for her.

Based on what she presents though, she seems immature, issues with substances, flaky, has grown up on TV, etc., so I hope that she has made a mature decision as marriage is hard, and the maturity in knowing you should get married and that you have married the right person is what indicates a successful marriage, IMHO.

Wow, I'm surprised by all the cynical posts. Makes some of you sound worse than Middle Schoolers. Jealous much?

Hey, at least they are getting married. Better than the Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie version of romance where they play house for so many years their children beg them to get married.

Miley and Liam have been dating for 3 years. She's lived an emancipated life that puts her on par with your average mid-20's woman. Sure she's young and sure she's living in that backwards Hollywood world, but she's also got a country music traditional upbringing. And she hasn't seemed to screw up her life with drugs and alcohol like other Disney starlets (Britney and Lindsay?).

Call me a hopeless romantic but I wish them well. Even if there turns out to be a baby on the way, they've at least shown some maturity in taking responsibility for themselves. I have a lot more respect for people who make a commitment to family (marriage and children) than a selfish out. I'm really sick to death of people trashing marriage.

Hardly jealous of a 19 year old kid getting married. I just think that engagements and marriages are the fun thing to do in Hollywood for some, and so I would hope she isn't falling into that trap.

I am a person who thinks 19 is very young. Just because legally you are an adult, does not make you one, and it definitely doesn't mean that you should get married either.

Sorry you are sad with people trashing marriage, but with two Hollywood kids getting married, their prognosis for success isn't that great, but perhaps they will beat the huge odds stacked against them, and have a long and happy succcessful marriage.

Guess she wants to get that first marriage out of the way to put her in the running for adult movie roles and/or make her relevant again. I don't think it'll help, but I think she and her handlers probably think it will. Does she do anything atm? When's the last time she did anything besides run about flashing her chest for the paparazzi?


The mid-20s women I know are educated and can string together a sentence. Miley Cyrus is some serious backwoods....

As for the drugs and other such things, there are more pics and videos of Cyrus smoking up than there are of Spears, afaik. Spears is bonkers and I wouldn't be surprised if she was on stuff but she's not known as a stoner and Cyrus is.

The mid 20s women I know are done university, careers, saving the world, etc., and they hardly have time to get married, but if they did, they are in a much different place than it seems Miley is, based on her public persona.

I am not shocked at all that she is engaged, as I'm sure it's fun to be engaged at this age. But the reality of marriage will soon set in, and that is when the hard work comes in, so I hope they are both grounded enough to make it work.

Tiger

 

[cornflake]

I don't care, just discussing since it's a dicussion board.

In my world, it is pretty shocking to get married at age 19, but not shocking in a negative or looking down way, but in a way that no one gets married so young around here. Like I said, the average age for first marriages is approaching 30 here in Canada, and that is a far cry from 19, and there are many reasons for that. I would hardly say though because a few message board people have indicated they got married at age 19 means that it's common, because it really isn't for most people.
Tiger

The average age of first marriage is similar in the U.S. just btw, closing in on 30.

 

[shortbun]

He's cute, very cute. His brother is even cuter. I can see how she's interested in them. I don't get a 19yo getting married though. Especially a 19yo with so much going for her. She has lots of big adventures to live and people to meet. I hope it's a very long engagement. These days, til death do us part is a long time. Ray Bradbury was 91. That would be 71 years of marriage. I love my husband and have made no bones about that but we got married when I was 34. I kissed a lot of frogs and I'm glad I did. Had I married the first man I loved...it makes me shudder.

 

[Heidict]

I can't speak to her maturity as I don't know her personally and can we really rely on what the media tells us? I hope it works out for them and they have a long, loving and healthy marriage.

I think the best chance for the survival of their marriage is to get out of Hollywood. It seems that the ones who get out and take up residence elsewhere are the ones who always have a better chance at surviving.

 

[Coconut36]

He's cute, very cute. His brother is even cuter. I can see how she's interested in them. I don't get a 19yo getting married though. Especially a 19yo with so much going for her. She has lots of big adventures to live and people to meet. I hope it's a very long engagement. These days, til death do us part is a long time. Ray Bradbury was 91. That would be 71 years of marriage. I love my husband and have made no bones about that but we got married when I was 34. I kissed a lot of frogs and I'm glad I did. Had I married the first man I loved...it makes me shudder.

Because you can't go places, do things, or meet people if you are married? That's..uh odd. It's not impossible to grow, to have a career, college..etc while married..it's actually just as easy as someone who isn't married.

I think for everyone what they are looking for is very different. I am quite happy I don't have a long history of "frogs" to look back on.

The biggest issues is not their (her) age but that fact that they are a celebrity couple..those have high divorce rates for sure.

 

[Coconut36]

The average age of first marriage is similar in the U.S. just btw, closing in on 30.

For women it's 26 as of 2009 (one stat listed it as 25)..while I guess that is technically closing in on 30 it what I would consider "mid" 20s. Miley is going to be 20 later this year..so not horrifically young.

Honestly..people act like she is 12 and getting married not almost 20 years old.

 

[Heidict]

Honestly..people act like she is 12 and getting married not almost 20 years old.

Well, I don't know. Has anyone seen her birth certificate? Billy Ray could be pulling a fast one on us!

 

[cornflake]

For women it's 26 as of 2009 (one stat listed it as 25)..while I guess that is technically closing in on 30 it what I would consider "mid" 20s. Miley is going to be 20 later this year..so not horrifically young.

Honestly..people act like she is 12 and getting married not almost 20 years old.

The CDC has the 2010 numbers as age 26 for women, 28 for men. As it's been steadily rising for decades, I said it's similar to the Canadian, closing in on 30.

Hey, everything's relative. I think 19 is horrifically young. Like in 'shouldn't even be on the radar for consideration' territory. Though it's not as if she's doing anything else, apparently.

 

[Tiger926]

Because you can't go places, do things, or meet people if you are married? That's..uh odd. It's not impossible to grow, to have a career, college..etc while married..it's actually just as easy as someone who isn't married.

I think for everyone what they are looking for is very different. I am quite happy I don't have a long history of "frogs" to look back on.

The biggest issues is not their (her) age but that fact that they are a celebrity couple..those have high divorce rates for sure.

Why does one need to grow at such a young age, while tied to someone else? I have family members who are family and marital therapists, and they can attest to the fact that so many people get married when they truly don't know themselves, and most 19 year olds fit into that category. So, once you attach yourself to someone else, you now are working on yourself and a marriage at the same time, and that is extremely difficult.

That is one of the reasons why people are getting married at older ages these days. Going through our 20s allows us to finish school, establish careers and grow as individuals, and that is pretty difficult to do when you are attached to someone else, and if you add childbirth in there, it becomes even more difficult. The biggest thing about waiting until one is older is that you have more life experiences in which to learn how to cope with problems, work on relationships and learn how to live in a partnership.

I will agree that for many of us we didn't feel it necessary to kiss a lot of frogs, but it was necessary to mature and grow as individuals. It was imperative for my hubby and I to understand ourselves before we got married. Sure we have grown together, but the important self-growth that took place in our 20s was so important for us, (and I am not talking about partying as we didn't do that) and we both are very mature and responsible people.

I have said it a million times, but for me, marriage is harder than parenting, and it takes a lot of skills, maturity and understanding to make it work, and most 19 year olds, especially those in the unreality world of Hollywood don't seem to particularly have those skills.

Are their people who have had successful marriages while marrying young? Absolutely, but the odds are stacked against very young marriages like this due to the young age alone, and the absence of life experiences.

The CDC has the 2010 numbers as age 26 for women, 28 for men. As it's been steadily rising for decades, I said it's similar to the Canadian, closing in on 30.

Hey, everything's relative. I think 19 is horrifically young. Like in 'shouldn't even be on the radar for consideration' territory. Though it's not as if she's doing anything else, apparently.

Yup, those are 2010 US numbers, and for us Canadians we are at over 29 for women and 30 for men.

It is absolutely not of the norm to get married at age 19, and I agree that it is so very young to even be considering marriage at that age.

I do think though that the Hollywood factors will definitely play into whether or not her marriage is successful or not, especially the fact that they will probably be separated a lot due to busy careers, which always seems to play into Hollywood divorces.

It is so interesting to read the replies on this thread! Tiger

 

[Coconut36]

Why does one need to grow at such a young age, while tied to someone else? I have family members who are family and marital therapists, and they can attest to the fact that so many people get married when they truly don't know themselves, and most 19 year olds fit into that category. So, once you attach yourself to someone else, you now are working on yourself and a marriage at the same time, and that is extremely difficult.

That is one of the reasons why people are getting married at older ages these days. Going through our 20s allows us to finish school, establish careers and grow as individuals, and that is pretty difficult to do when you are attached to someone else, and if you add childbirth in there, it becomes even more difficult. The biggest thing about waiting until one is older is that you have more life experiences in which to learn how to cope with problems, work on relationships and learn how to live in a partnership.

I will agree that for many of us we didn't feel it necessary to kiss a lot of frogs, but it was necessary to mature and grow as individuals. It was imperative for my hubby and I to understand ourselves before we got married. Sure we have grown together, but the important self-growth that took place in our 20s was so important for us, (and I am not talking about partying as we didn't do that) and we both are very mature and responsible people.

I have said it a million times, but for me, marriage is harder than parenting, and it takes a lot of skills, maturity and understanding to make it work, and most 19 year olds, especially those in the unreality world of Hollywood don't seem to particularly have those skills.

Are their people who have had successful marriages while marrying young? Absolutely, but the odds are stacked against very young marriages like this due to the young age alone.



Yup, those are 2010 US numbers, and for us Canadians we are at over 29 for women and 30 for men.

It is absolutely not of the norm to get married at age 19, and I agree that it is so very young to even be considering marriage at that age.

I do think though that the Hollywood factors will definitely play into whether or not her marriage is successful or not, especially the fact that they will probably be separated a lot due to busy careers, which always seems to play into Hollywood divorces.

It is so interesting to read the replies on this thread! Tiger

Nobody said they "HAVE" to..simply that one can do it and that marriage is not a hindrance to going places, growing, meeting people, going to college, having/creating a career..etc. You can do all of those things while married and it can work out just fine. If one doesn't want that then by all means wait..if you do not view marriage as something that will prevent you from growing then get married. I just don't see it as a black and white issue I guess..one does what is best for them and suits what they are looking for in life. I knew what I wanted..I was a married homeowner in college and working my way up in my career at the age of 18. Within 10 years of that I had acheived a lot in life and being married never held me back from anything I wanted to do or achieve.

I didn't need frogs to know myself or what I wanted in a relationship either..but I don't fault someone for feeling that is best for them. My issue is with the implications that one "must" do this or they can't have a successful marriage or can't grow or can't know what they want..clearly that isn't true.

I know that not all "young" marriages work..but I also know that waiting until 25 or 35 doesn't guarantee success either..plenty of people end up divorced at those ages as well.

 

[Tiger926]

Nobody said they "HAVE" to..simply that one can do it and that marriage is not a hindrance to going places, growing, meeting people, going to college, having/creating a career..etc. You can do all of those things will married and it can work out just fine. If one doesn't want that then by all means wait..if you do not view marriage as something that will prevent you from growing then get married. I just don't see it as a black and white issue I guess..one does what is best for them and suits what they are looking for in life. I knew what I wanted..I was a married homeowner in college and working my way up in my career at the age of 18. Within 10 years of that I had acheived a lot in life and being married never held me back from anything I wanted to do or achieve.

I know that not all "young" marriages work..but I also know that waiting until 25 or 35 doesn't guarantee success either..plenty of people end up divorced at those ages as well.

Yup, many people who marry older get divorced as well, and that is because people are getting married at the wrong time and to the wrong people, which I will agree with you can happen at any age.

But most 19 year olds are not going to be successful in life like you were if they marry young. And I'm not saying that being married will for sure be a detriment to success, but when one is trying to understand one's self, finish school, start a career, buy a home and get married all at the same time, life can get very difficult, and in so many cases, the relationship is the thing that suffers. So, why not wait a few more years until those areas are more established?

It sounds like you were very lucky, and so Miley might be as well, but in this day and age, why get married so young? For Miley, I'm sure it's the next logical step as they have been dating and playing house since she was 16, and they both have careers, home, etc., so the obstacles in their way will be emotional needs more than physical needs, IMHO. That being said, it is still so very young to even be considering marriage, but Miley is in a different stage of life than most 19 year olds anyway, so it didn't surprise me to hear this news at all.

Tiger

 

[a1tinkfans]

She has really grown up before our eyes. They have been together three years and I wish them luck.....at their young ages and in Hollywood, I feel like they'll need it, nut you never know!