MIL - one thing I don't like about her

Yes, that's probably a very good idea. You probably shouldn't comment on "typical" MILs and "most" daughters and "most" DILs unless you know the full story. :rolleyes:

I can comment on my situation as much as I want.....but hey thanks for being all concerned :lmao:. :hippie:
 
I can comment on my situation as much as I want....

Yes, you certainly can. However, it's hypocritical for you to comment on OTHER PEOPLE'S situations (as you did, in all of the text I quoted) and then say that people who don't know what's going on shouldn't comment on it. You just made a whole lot of sweeping generalizations about other peoples' situations and then chastized those who would do so. Doesn't exactly support your case, if you know what I mean. ;) Just like changing your story and saying "no, I don't really mean my mom does whatever she wants with someone else's child, even though that's what I said" doesn't really support your version of events and make you sound like the "good guy" in this situation either.
 
We don't leave my son with my MIL at all because she is not capable of keeping him by herself. She did attempt to buy some toys and supplies when he was younger when we would visit, but they were never age-appropriate or safe. (She also refused to child-proof the house so I didn't let him out of my sight!) One of the 'toys' she gave him as an infant was a bottle of prescription pills to use as a rattle!

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:scared1: Who does something like that! Is she on crack?

When my MIL was still living in her home she used to get all put out with me because i would go in and do a little child proofing. DS24 was under 2 at the time. MIL house was dirty and she had mouse traps and roach traps all over the place. First thing I would do is collect up all the traps. Well, she took offense. Told me I should teach him not to touch things. Yeah.:rolleyes: I'm all into taking chances with poison. Then one day I just put my foot down. I just refused to take my son into a filthy environment. I caught holy hell from the rest of the family, but you know what? I don't care. i'm not responsible for anyone else, only my child. And if removing my child from an unsafe place hurts some feelings, it's a cost I'm prepared to pay.
 

Sadly, she's not the first "loving grandma" I've heard of who did this.

I'm sure they do. But clearly not enough of them have sat at the bedside of a child who had to be given liquid charcoal because they ate Grandma's Blood Pressure pills. :headache:
 
I will give you an example. My DN is 2 now but when he was 6 mths old she and my brother went to the beach 10 hours away and left him with my mom because they did not want to take him and there was no one else. She proceeds to write out a 4 page (4 PAGE) instruction note. Some of the things she listed out was please change him at least 4x's a day. You change his diaper by laying him flat and placing diaper under him. Then you make sure both velcro sides meet. We don't want any leaks. :lmao: Who the heck doesn't know how to change a diaper esp. if you had 2 kids and kept kids. Then it was when you feed him his bottle make sure he burps half way. DUH!!!! My mom was more equipped and knowledgeable then she was about babies and still is. There were pages of crazy things. My mom kept it and will show it to her one day. We have shown several people the letter and they are baffled. Then again, my parents keeping him on days when he is off from school. She got mad cause he didn't have a nap right at noon when they didn't bring him over till 10 and he had just woke up. He wasn't tired. Its stupid stuff like that. I just didn't want to go into it all. So I guess unless you know the ull story on something like that - I prob would not comment. :confused3

Actually, it sounds like a nervous, inexperienced new mother leaving her child for possibly the first time. :confused3

My sister left my mom pages of notes when she watched my newborn nephew. My mom was already a grandmother 3 times by then (not to mention she raised 2 children) and pretty much knew what to do. LOL
 
I'm sure they do. But clearly not enough of them have sat at the bedside of a child who had to be given liquid charcoal because they ate Grandma's Blood Pressure pills. :headache:

Oh, I wasn't saying it's a good thing. It's very stupid. Just that it's not unheard of (which is very sad and confusing... who thinks this is okay?)
 
Oh, I wasn't saying it's a good thing. It's very stupid. Just that it's not unheard of (which is very sad and confusing... who thinks this is okay?)

Her response when I took it away "He can't open it, it won't hurt him." I responded "Well, an unloaded gun won't hurt him either, but I don't let him play with one. It's about teaching him what he can and can't play with." I just got a "Hmmfff!" to that (and lots of other things too - Finding a prescription pill laying on the couch cushion in her house, letting him ride a ride-on toy down the street instead of on the sidewalks "There aren't any cars coming.") The lack of common sense in her case is unbelievable.
 
Actually, it sounds like a nervous, inexperienced new mother leaving her child for possibly the first time.

That's what I was thinking!!!!!

I think that there are plenty of new mothers who go nuts and just can't seem to imagine how anybody else could have created and cared for and loved a new tiny life before, the way they have, ever, in history.... ;)
 
WOW!!!!!!

We all need a husband like yours!!!!! :goodvibes

It is when the husband fails to step up that inlaw problems become marriage problems! ;)

Sure did in my case. Luckily, we sought out marriage counseling. It has made all the difference in the world!

It isn't stuff like giving him chocolate or candy. My mom would never do that. And she doesn't have a problem with it she doesn't know. Anyhoo . . .I will give you an example. My DN is 2 now but when he was 6 mths old she and my brother went to the beach 10 hours away and left him with my mom because they did not want to take him and there was no one else. She proceeds to write out a 4 page (4 PAGE) instruction note. Some of the things she listed out was please change him at least 4x's a day. You change his diaper by laying him flat and placing diaper under him. Then you make sure both velcro sides meet. We don't want any leaks. :lmao: Who the heck doesn't know how to change a diaper esp. if you had 2 kids and kept kids. Then it was when you feed him his bottle make sure he burps half way. DUH!!!! My mom was more equipped and knowledgeable then she was about babies and still is. There were pages of crazy things. My mom kept it and will show it to her one day. We have shown several people the letter and they are baffled. Then again, my parents keeping him on days when he is off from school. She got mad cause he didn't have a nap right at noon when they didn't bring him over till 10 and he had just woke up. He wasn't tired. Its stupid stuff like that. I just didn't want to go into it all. So I guess unless you know the ull story on something like that - I prob would not comment. :confused3
You would be surprised. Same MiL who raised not 1, not 2, but 3 children did not know these things. I really don't know how her children survived. Anyway, I didn't leave her instructions thinking she knew what to do. Well, she did not use wipes on my DD because she did not know you needed to. She did not pull the velcro straps together so she ended up going through all the changes of clothes we brought. I was using formula and bottles. I filled 3 bottles with the exact amount of water. I then had a formula dispenser with 3 compartments. 1 compartment for each bottle. What do you think she did? Lets just say when I picked up my DD all the powdered formula was gone but there were still 2 bottles full of water. Lastly, she reported my DD had vomited. I asked how many times she burped her. Her answer, I never had to burp my kids until the end. All this from a nurse mind you. So, no, not every granmother remembers what to do. What would have happened if your mom had thanked her for the clear directions rather than mocking her DiL and keeping the list for ammuntion?
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Her response when I took it away "He can't open it, it won't hurt him." I responded "Well, an unloaded gun won't hurt him either, but I don't let him play with one. It's about teaching him what he can and can't play with." I just got a "Hmmfff!" to that (and lots of other things too - Finding a prescription pill laying on the couch cushion in her house, letting him ride a ride-on toy down the street instead of on the sidewalks "There aren't any cars coming.") The lack of common sense in her case is unbelievable.

Love that answer. I'm going to file that away for future reference as I'm sure I will have a need to use it as some point. :rolleyes1
 
Just as not all DiL's are saints, I can assure you not all MiL's are either. At my wedding my mother in law would not walk down the aisle to the song she was supposed to because she decided she didn't like it. She wanted to wait until "Here Comes the Bride" started. Because, after all, it was her son that was getting married. Another time, after we just purchased our home some out of state relative's of my DH were visiting. I was going to have a cookout. She called me up the day before to say it was now at her house because she wanted them to see her house. She then asked me if I could bring my grill, table & chairs, and all the food because she didn't have anything and didn't want to go to the store since I had everything. :scared1:

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Maybe I should'nt make sucha a broad statement. BUT, I have seen too many times where the DIL is the one causing all the problems. Much moreso then the MIL.

Being a DIL you should expect the MIL to dote over her son. This is typical. Most daughters are close to her family even after she takes a husband. Sons, I believe want to be close after marrying but have a nagging voice in their ear all the time. Most DIL do not want to see the MIL and son express any emotions towards each other (again this is what I witness in my family and others around me). If the son hugs his mother or recieves gifts he is called a mommas boy, etc. But if the DIL does this with her parents it is suppose to be totally ok. My mother bends over backwards for my SIL and brother. Keeps my nephew overnnight alot, goes and gets him from school, buys him clothes, etc. But my SIL always has something to complain about. She is so controlling and thinks her way is the best way. Which we and most everyone around her thinks she is a nut and is lacking common sense. My mom nods her head and does what she wants, after all DN is taken care of (better then with her) and he loves her. She may get mad at how some things are done but we are at the point where it doesn't matter anymore. I could write books and books on this girl and her controlling bi-polar personality but i won't. I said all that to say "MOST" DIL expect WAY too much from their MIL. People are different and are not going to do the things you want them to (well, except my mom) do all the time. I would just consider her feelings and step back and look at myself to see if I am doing everything right. I tell my SIL ALL the time that she will have a DIL one day and it will most likely come back to bite her. Or I hope it does. I wish that my DN will marry someone just like his momma :)


:sad2: I think that while this is your experience with an IL it would be interesting to hear your Sis IL's observations about you and your Mom. There is a vast difference between loving and respecting your son and doting on him just as there is a vast difference between loving and respecting your Mom and allowing her to run rampant through your marriage.

If I ignored what my DD asked me in regards to caring for my DGD I would not see her again unsupervised. And trust me....your SIS IL knows that your Mom is ignoring her requests. Your Mom raised her family and from your post I think she had some difficulty learning and teaching respecting boundaries. This child is nto hers or yours and therefore neither of you has the right to disregard what his Mother has decided is best for him. You are not required to agree, you are required to respect.

I raised three children and I taught my sons that once they married their wife came first. I expected that I would be treated with respect but that if I intruded where I did not belong I expected my sins to take a stand and it had better be beside their wife. I also treat their wives as I would treat my own DD, and thankfully I get that returned tenfold.

Now as to your unfortunate name calling. I have no idea why your refer to your SIS Il as "controling bipolar personality" :sad2: How offensive! I will promise you that if your post is any indication of the way that your family treats your brother's wife it is no small wonder that she does not like you. The next step she and your brother may take is the one my DD and her DH had to take. Very little contact with your nephew. No one, not even a family member has the right to undermine a parent, ridicule a parent or disrespect a parent because a child will pick up on it. It is a shame that you and you rMom have decided that you can usurp your SIS Il's role as the mother of her child and that you find your behavior above reproach.

I love my DD and have a close relationship with her and love both of my sons as much. I have heard that sons are caught between their Mother and their wife but that is poppycock! If a Mother has done her job properly her daughters by marriage know that there is no contest. And that Mother will never lose a son!


Your riddiculous statements that mine were assumptions - I am around this SIL/DIl daily so I think it would NOT be assumptions but more so reality. ;) K!

The statements are your reality. If any of your reality pertained to me I would be heartbroken!

For me, both of these sentences above, the outright name-calling, and the fact that this grandmother feels she can simply ignore the wishes viewpoints of the childs mother, (as well as presumptuous use of the word 'most' several times in the post) completely and totally discount any consideration for this post.

I think it is very easy to see who is disrespectful.

:sad2: ITA!

She proceeds to write out a 4 page (4 PAGE) instruction note. Some of the things she listed out was please change him at least 4x's a day. You change his diaper by laying him flat and placing diaper under him. Then you make sure both velcro sides meet. We don't want any leaks. :lmao: Who the heck doesn't know how to change a diaper esp. if you had 2 kids and kept kids. Then it was when you feed him his bottle make sure he burps half way. DUH!!!! My mom was more equipped and knowledgeable then she was about babies and still is. There were pages of crazy things. My mom kept it and will show it to her one day. We have shown several people the letter and they are baffled. Then again, my parents keeping him on days when he is off from school. She got mad cause he didn't have a nap right at noon when they didn't bring him over till 10 and he had just woke up. He wasn't tired. Its stupid stuff like that. I just didn't want to go into it all. So I guess unless you know the ull story on something like that - I prob would not comment. :confused3

I think she is a new Mother. I will also say that things have changed since your Mother raised her family. I raised three children and they are all still alive. When Kady was born I was shocked to learn I did not know what I needed to know but instead of ridiculing my DD I listened and learned. The the young woman on my street left her infant with me and I needed to learn more. And I did. I found by paying attention to what mattered to the mothers I was trusted and coulld use my judgement for just about anything. They knew I would never undermine them as parents and that I would never inadvertantly harm one of the kids. becasue I was too ignorant and stubborn to admit that perhaps I had something to learn.

If I sound harsh it is because I am so irritated but the behavior that you seem to find perfectly acceptable. My future DDIL had heard all of the MIL things and was worried about my relationship with my son. I think it was women who had married into families like yours who gave her the impression that a Mother challenges her DDIL for attention. That behavior makes it very difficult for the rest of us who just want our sons to be happy and loved by the woman they love.
 
My mom hasn't had to care for a child since I grew up. She watched my kids, but at MY house.

I wouldn't expect my mom or my DW's mom to supply their home for things for MY kids. :confused3
 
Maybe I should'nt make sucha a broad statement. BUT, I have seen too many times where the DIL is the one causing all the problems. Much moreso then the MIL.

Being a DIL you should expect the MIL to dote over her son. This is typical. Most daughters are close to her family even after she takes a husband. Sons, I believe want to be close after marrying but have a nagging voice in their ear all the time. Most DIL do not want to see the MIL and son express any emotions towards each other (again this is what I witness in my family and others around me). If the son hugs his mother or recieves gifts he is called a mommas boy, etc. But if the DIL does this with her parents it is suppose to be totally ok. My mother bends over backwards for my SIL and brother. Keeps my nephew overnnight alot, goes and gets him from school, buys him clothes, etc. But my SIL always has something to complain about. She is so controlling and thinks her way is the best way. Which we and most everyone around her thinks she is a nut and is lacking common sense. My mom nods her head and does what she wants, after all DN is taken care of (better then with her) and he loves her. She may get mad at how some things are done but we are at the point where it doesn't matter anymore. I could write books and books on this girl and her controlling bi-polar personality but i won't. I said all that to say "MOST" DIL expect WAY too much from their MIL. People are different and are not going to do the things you want them to (well, except my mom) do all the time. I would just consider her feelings and step back and look at myself to see if I am doing everything right. I tell my SIL ALL the time that she will have a DIL one day and it will most likely come back to bite her. Or I hope it does. I wish that my DN will marry someone just like his momma :)

How many kids do you and your husband have?
 
We don't leave my son with my MIL at all because she is not capable of keeping him by herself. She did attempt to buy some toys and supplies when he was younger when we would visit, but they were never age-appropriate or safe. (She also refused to child-proof the house so I didn't let him out of my sight!) One of the 'toys' she gave him as an infant was a bottle of prescription pills to use as a rattle!

I much prefer to bring a few toys with us for the short time that we do spend with her. That way I know that what he has is safe for him.

:scared1: Who does something like that! Is she on crack?

When my MIL was still living in her home she used to get all put out with me because i would go in and do a little child proofing. DS24 was under 2 at the time. MIL house was dirty and she had mouse traps and roach traps all over the place. First thing I would do is collect up all the traps. Well, she took offense. Told me I should teach him not to touch things. Yeah.:rolleyes: I'm all into taking chances with poison. Then one day I just put my foot down. I just refused to take my son into a filthy environment. I caught holy hell from the rest of the family, but you know what? I don't care. i'm not responsible for anyone else, only my child. And if removing my child from an unsafe place hurts some feelings, it's a cost I'm prepared to pay.

OMG I think you guys are related to my step mother!!! Not the dirty house part (far from it, she is OCD) but she absolutely refuses to child-proof her house, and says "MY children learned to listen, and knew better than to touch things that didn't belong to them, and YOURS can darn well do the same." Ummm, okay but did you happen to collect crystal back then too? Seriously? You are going to leave a whole bunch of crystal glasses and knick knacks down where my two year old can reach them? So...the one and only time I had my toddler in her house we spent the entire week sitting out on the deck or in the back yard from the time we got up until we went to bed. Then she griped and moaned because my daughter kept eating snacks and dropping cracker crumbs (or maybe even...gasp...a whole cracker or two). OUTSIDE! :rolleyes: Hello, crazy lady, ever heard of birds??? It's her house and she can do what she likes, but that was all way too much for me. We haven't been back, and they have never met my son at all (they live several states away, so meeting at a restaurant or park won't work, and they won't come up here). :sad2:
 
Nancyg - I so wish you were my MiL. I so wanted a second mom but she just makes it impossible. I went into it with the best intentions but she just refuses to "share" my DH with me in any way. Sadly, she is the one that is missing out as we don't care to go over there much. One year shortly after I had my DD, we were decorating the Christmas tree. Christmas carols, the whole 9 yards. She calls in tears because she has nobody to help her decorate her tree. She asked my DH if he would please come over to help. He said no that we were decorated ours. Asked if she would like to wait until we were done and we would all come over. She said no, she only wanted him and why wouldn't he pick his mother over his wife - she came first! She actually said those words. I now have a DS3 and I sure hope I can be the MiL you are. Makes things so much more loving, easier and positive. Kudos to you. :thumbsup2
 
ccgirl- that is just so sad. My husbands mother is like that and it is a shame really. I don't understand women who think that it is okay to make a man choose between his mother and his wife, there really is no reason. My son is marrying a woman who had a few preconceptions about MIL's and at one point suggested that my son was a "Momma's Boy". He told her not to confuse a man who loves and respects his Mother with a man who is a momma's boy, I was a little amused because of all my children Donny is the one who will never be moved unless he wants to be and may or may not answer a phone, check his email or remember where he is supposed to be. He is kicked off the phone tree and Anna is on it after he failed to pass her a message, She is called to remind him of any special events after he missed Mass and Dinner for his Gramps. So not tied to me in any unfortunate way :lmao:I believe that women like the OP give the rest of us a bad name and we have to work twice as hard to turn that around.

You MIL is the one to lose, she will miss all out. She will not be able to share all of the love and support a daughter could give and she will not be able to be share all of the special events that your family celebrates. SHe actually will lose her son rather than admit that his first priority is his wifw and son. I will never understand that.
 
I think she is a new Mother. I will also say that things have changed since your Mother raised her family. I raised three children and they are all still alive. When Kady was born I was shocked to learn I did not know what I needed to know but instead of ridiculing my DD I listened and learned. The the young woman on my street left her infant with me and I needed to learn more. And I did. I found by paying attention to what mattered to the mothers I was trusted and coulld use my judgement for just about anything. They knew I would never undermine them as parents and that I would never inadvertantly harm one of the kids. becasue I was too ignorant and stubborn to admit that perhaps I had something to learn.

If I sound harsh it is because I am so irritated but the behavior that you seem to find perfectly acceptable. My future DDIL had heard all of the MIL things and was worried about my relationship with my son. I think it was women who had married into families like yours who gave her the impression that a Mother challenges her DDIL for attention. That behavior makes it very difficult for the rest of us who just want our sons to be happy and loved by the woman they love.

Until we sold the house after my grandparents died (my brother would have been about 25), taped to the door of of one of the bedrooms was the 3 pages of instructions that my mum left for my grandmother when my brother stayed there the first time (not sure how old he was - maybe 1ish).

No one thought that my mother was forever insulting her mother by providing the note (even if some of the things were pretty darned obvious). He was the first child (and first grandchild). The letter became one of those things that we loved looking at when we visited.
 
Until we sold the house after my grandparents died (my brother would have been about 25), taped to the door of of one of the bedrooms was the 3 pages of instructions that my mum left for my grandmother when my brother stayed there the first time (not sure how old he was - maybe 1ish).

No one thought that my mother was forever insulting her mother by providing the note (even if some of the things were pretty darned obvious). He was the first child (and first grandchild). The letter became one of those things that we loved looking at when we visited.

:goodvibes I remember when my first husbands sister left her baby with my DMIL for the first time. There was a four page letter included. DMIL laughed it off but I was a bit testy back then so I was insulted for her. Needless to say, her grace and humor under those circumstances is one of the most precious gifts she gave to me. SHe taught me some things about how not to treat a DDIL but those things were minor in comparison to the many lessons I took from her in how to make a DDIL one of the family. Thank you for sharing this story, you just brought her back to me today and that is a wonderful way to begin a Saturday :goodvibes
 
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:sad2: I raised three children and I taught my sons that once they married their wife came first. I expected that I would be treated with respect but that if I intruded where I did not belong I expected my sins to take a stand and it had better be beside their wife. If a Mother has done her job properly her daughters by marriage know that there is no contest. And that Mother will never lose a son!

This is my view too. I only have sons, but honestly I would feel the same way about a daughter and her husband.

I've watched the damage done by my own inlaws and also by my parent's inlaws (my grandparents on my mother's side) by trying to be the major influence in their married child's life over a spouse.

My dh and I went to marriage counseling and powered through it. My SIL is divorced and lives next door to her parents. My parents are 80 and still have bad feelings about my grandparents who've been deceased for 30 years. My dh has my permission to kick my butt if I don't know my place when my kid's get married.
 













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