Mike Brown just resigned...

[Planogirl]

That's good news. He's one of those who could affect the whole country.

The people of Lousiana will have to decide what to do about their governor and the mayor of Louisiana.

 

[ThAnswr]

Are they at least equally incompetent?

You just can't help yourself, but I'm feeling generous at the moment, sooooo to answer your question:

Various people rose to their level of incompetency at different times.

 

[Bunch24]

F.Y.I...

just heard it on the radio...no confirmation online as of yet.

He's the first, definitely should not be the last.

In my humble opinion, the only major players in this catastrophe that have acted accordingly are "that John Wayne dude" Lt. General Russell Honore and Coast Guard Vice Admiral Thad Allen.

If they hadn't stepped up to the plate and taken charge, we'd probably still have people in the Superdome and Convention Center.

They saved a lot more lives than people realize.

 

[Virgo10]

Originally Posted by Laugh O. Grams
If the incompetent are leaving...give me a minute...I've got a laundry list and it starts from the top on down!!

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Yup.. I think I might have the same list that you do..

Well on my Hot 100 list, Number Two has just been eliminated.

 

[bsnyder]

You just can't help yourself, but I'm feeling generous at the moment, sooooo to answer your question:

Various people rose to their level of incompetency at different times.

Thanks for finally throwing me a bone.

 

[ThAnswr]

All I'm going to say about this whole mess is that these people WORK FOR YOU! Remember this in November. Remember those who supported and endorsed the people you are all so angry with right now. VOTE and make the changes that you feel are needed. Vote for the right PERSON, NOT PARTY.

And plan on going to Jazz Fest in 2006

Anne

It should be obvious that many of these people do not believe the government works for them. They have swallowed the BS, hook, line, and sinker that government is the problem and government is bad. And the disconnect gets wider and wider.

No bad government, as exhibited these last 10 days or so, is the problem.

Solution: Stop voting for people who do not believe in the institution of government and who don't believe government can do a competent job. When you vote for these "government is bad" people and put them in office, they rise to your low expectations. They tell the voters they're screw-ups and then the voter is surprised that they lived up to their hype.

I say, if a candidate doesn't believe in government and doesn't believe government can help solve problems, why the hell would anyone want that kind of a moron representing them.

You get the government you voted for. Vote for people who will do a good job and believe that there is a sacred trust between the citizen and their government.

 

[Geoff_M]

such that the talking points in the next few days will focus on how every bit of the federal government's falure was his personal responsibility, when it was really more a matter of philosophy than individual competence

I don't know if you've seen them yet... but they came out last Friday!

 

[bsnyder]

It should be obvious that many of these people do not believe the government works for them. They have swallowed the BS, hook, line, and sinker that government is the problem and government is bad. And the disconnect gets wider and wider.

No bad government, as exhibited these last 10 days or so, is the problem.

Solution: Stop voting for people who do not believe in the institution of government and who don't believe government can do a competent job. When you vote for these "government is bad" people and put them in office, they rise to your low expectations. They tell the voters they're screw-ups and then the voter is surprised that they lived up to their hype.

I say, if a candidate doesn't believe in government and doesn't believe government can help solve problems, why the hell would anyone want that kind of a moron representing them.

You get the government you voted for. Vote for people who will do a good job and believe that there is a sacred trust between the citizen and their government.

I understand the argument you're making here, but I can't help but disagree with you.

We've seen three levels of government completely fail the people they were elected to serve. And those levels cut across partisan lines. Are you saying that ALL of those people didn't believe that government can help solve problems?

The result we're seeing from FEMA is what happens with a beauracracy - the bigger and more remote it gets from the people it's intended to serve, the more inefficient and bogged down it gets.

 

[cats7494]

I am glad he is gone - would be nice if the rest of the government responsible (from the TOP down) would be gone too!

 

[ThAnswr]

I understand the argument you're making here, but I can't help but disagree with you.

Then continue voting for the ones who do not believe in government, who do not believe government can help solve problems, and who do believe "government should be shrunk to the size that can fit into a bathtub and then drowned". See where it gets you.

We've seen three levels of government completely fail the people they were elected to serve. And those levels cut across partisan lines. Are you saying that ALL of those people didn't believe that government can help solve problems?

Cut across partisan lines my eyeball. The Republicans have made it their mantra, going back to Reagan, that government is bad and government is the problem. Bad government is the problem.

The result we're seeing from FEMA is what happens with a beauracracy - the bigger and more remote it gets from the people it's intended to serve, the more inefficient and bogged down it gets.

No what you are seeing from FEMA is bad government. FEMA should never have been rolled into Homeland Security because Homeland Security was focused on terrorism, not natural disasters. FEMA should never have been headed by someone who has absolutely no qualifications for the postion other than the fact he's a good Republican. You are watching bad government in action.

You wanted the "government is bad and government is the problem" folks in office, and look where it got you.

Here's a fresh idea: vote for people who believe in the institution of government and believe government can help solve problems.

 

[bsnyder]

Then continue voting for the ones who do not believe in government, who do not believe government can help solve problems, and who do believe "government should be shrunk to the size that can fit into a bathtub and then drowned". See where it gets you.



Cut across partisan lines my eyeball. The Republicans have made it their mantra, going back to Reagan, that government is bad and government is the problem. Bad government is the problem.



No what you are seeing from FEMA is bad government. FEMA should never have been rolled into Homeland Security because Homeland Security was focused on terrorism, not natural disasters. FEMA should never have been headed by someone who has absolutely no qualifications for the postion other than the fact he's a good Republican. You are watching bad government in action.

You wanted the "government is bad and government is the problem" folks in office, and look where it got you.

Here's a fresh idea: vote for people who believe in the institution of government and believe government can help solve problems.

You've missed my point. If the failure is a result of people who believe government is bad, and government is the problem, how do explain the failure of the local and state goverments? Do they believe this too?

 

[mum4jenn]

Well I was trying to take wagers on this back on the 8th on the Jay Leno thread that was closed. This is not a surprise at all but it did take a few more days then I thought it would!!!

 

[Geoff_M]

Here's a fresh idea: vote for people who believe in the institution of government and believe government can help solve problems.

A couple of questions...
1) Which side of the aisle was it that called for the creation of a DHS, with all of the various related governmental agencies reporting into it (i.e. the genesis of FEMA supposedly getting lost in the shuffle)?
2) Who initially resisted the move?

 

[LoraJ]

All I'm going to say about this whole mess is that these people WORK FOR YOU! Remember this in November. Remember those who supported and endorsed the people you are all so angry with right now. VOTE and make the changes that you feel are needed. Vote for the right PERSON, NOT PARTY.

And plan on going to Jazz Fest in 2006

Anne

I'm thinking about it! If we don't do Mardi Gras, we may do Jazz fest.

 

[ducklite]

I'm thinking about it! If we don't do Mardi Gras, we may do Jazz fest.

I think we'll be seeing you there!

Anne

 

[Charade]

No what you are seeing from FEMA is bad government. FEMA should never have been rolled into Homeland Security because Homeland Security was focused on terrorism, not natural disasters. FEMA should never have been headed by someone who has absolutely no qualifications for the postion other than the fact he's a good Republican. You are watching bad government in action.

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And NOLA got a Mayor that used to be on cable TV.

 

[Charade]

A couple of questions...
1) Which side of the aisle was it that called for the creation of a DHS, with all of the various related governmental agencies reporting into it (i.e. the genesis of FEMA supposedly getting lost in the shuffle)?
2) Who initially resisted the move?

How many guess do we get??

 

[Robinrs]

I don't know if you've seen them yet... but they came out last Friday!

funny, this sounds like the agenda of most of the people on this boards....

 

[bsnyder]

And NOLA got a Mayor that used to be on cable TV.

Does that mean that he thinks government is bad, and should be drowned in a bathtub?

 

[Charade]

Does that mean that he thinks government is bad, and should be drowned in a bathtub?

Uh oh. Poor choice of words!!