Mike Brown just resigned...

[bsnyder]

Do you have a link to how many people called in sick in NYC on 9/11/2001? Just asking.

I don't have a link, but I recall reading a number of personal stories of firefighters, and other first responders who weren't even scheduled for work that day who on their own initiative went to the scene anyway.

 

[ThAnswr]

You mean like paying for wealthy people's generators? You mean like still owing cities and counties massive amounts of money? You mean like taking forever to get the FEMA trailers here? The ones that were so great last year were the American Red Cross and other volunteer agencies. Heck the Army blue tarp people were AWESOME. FEMA, ahh not so good.

And lest we forget the $21,000,000 paid to 9000 (or so) individuals in Miami-Dade county for storm damage (there wasn't any) and the money FEMA paid to companies for storm clean-up. Those companies did such a lousy job, Charlotte county had to have the job done again at taxpayer's expense. They're still fighting with FEMA just to get some answers.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Anyone else find it odd in Brown's resignation quote that he has resigned “in the best interest of the agency and best interest of the president,”? What about in the best interest of the American people?!?

 

[ThAnswr]

I don't have a link, but I recall reading a number of personal stories of firefighters, and other first responders who weren't even scheduled for work that day who on their own initiative went to the scene anyway.

Well since no knows for sure, and no one has a link, we might as well be debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

And don't compare 9/11 with Katrina. 9/11 happened within a very small area of NYC. Katrina cut across 4 states with catastrophic damage in 2 of them.

Btw, this is not to ignore what happened at the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania. The discussion was about city workers and NYC.

 

[wvrevy]

Anyone else find it odd in Brown's resignation quote that he has resigned “in the best interest of the agency and best interest of the president,”? What about in the best interest of the American people?!?

That too...it kinda went without saying

You can bet that the part you bolded was the biggest reason, though. Frankly, I'm shocked that he resigned...Bush has never held anyone else accountable, so I'm stunned that it was done this time. My guess is that he's just taking the bullet for the Gump administration

 

[ThAnswr]

Anyone else find it odd in Brown's resignation quote that he has resigned “in the best interest of the agency and best interest of the president,”? What about in the best interest of the American people?!?

Please, you're killing me.

It's all about Bush. Everything is about Bush. Everything revolves around Bush. All manna flows from Bush.

The American people..........just an afterthought.

 

[ThAnswr]

That too...it kinda went without saying

You can bet that the part you bolded was the biggest reason, though. Frankly, I'm shocked that he resigned...Bush has never held anyone else accountable, so I'm stunned that it was done this time. My guess is that he's just taking the bullet for the Gump administration

Or the Bushies finally found the one they can't spin away. This one was played out in front of the entire world. Who are you going to believe: the Bushies or your lying eyes?

 

[ThAnswr]

If the incompetent are leaving...give me a minute...I've got a laundry list and it starts from the top on down!!

There's an old Italian saying: "When a fish starts to rot, it stinks at the head first".

 

[ducklite]

All I'm going to say about this whole mess is that these people WORK FOR YOU! Remember this in November. Remember those who supported and endorsed the people you are all so angry with right now. VOTE and make the changes that you feel are needed. Vote for the right PERSON, NOT PARTY.

And plan on going to Jazz Fest in 2006

Anne

 

[peachgirl]

Here's Landrieu showing her faith in the city employees of N.O. and all cities of the US:

Sen. Mary Landrieu's Quote to Chris Wallace on Sunday, 09/11/2005:


Nice attitude... I don't recall seeing that problem in N.Y. on 9/11/2001...

But it's Bush's fault...

Here's the entire portion of that interview. Clearly she meant that it was hard to get them to work meaning transportion to work, not get them to show up, on a day with decent weather, let alone have the transportation available to evacuate the entire city.

You can argue whether she's right or not, but she wasn't insulting the city employees or even speaking of the city employees, she was talking about the civilian population.

WALLACE: Senator Landrieu, I want to ask you — and I'll ask you both, but let me start with you — about the local response.

Was it incompetent and insulting for Mayor Ray Nagin to order a mandatory evacuation, but then to leave buses — and we have a picture of them — hundreds of buses idle, so that they could be flooded, instead of using them to get people out.

LANDRIEU: Well, Chris, I was there, as you know, through the whole ordeal with state and local officials, and was right there with Louisiana Democrats and Republicans, city council members, police chiefs, mayors, the governors, and could watch what Haley Barbour was doing and Governor Riley in Alabama.

I am not going to level criticism at the local level. These people did...

WALLACE: But I'd like you to answer, if you could, this one specific question.

LANDRIEU: Well, I will. I will answer it. I am not going to level criticism at local and state officials. Mayor Nagin and most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out of the city in front of a hurricane. And it's because this administration and administrations before them do not understand the difficulties that mayors — whether they are in Orlando, Miami, or New Orleans — face.

(CROSSTALK)

LANDRIEU: In other words, this administration did not believe in mass transit. They won't even get people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out...

The bolding is mine.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

I guess Brownie had his eye already set on something else anyway.

Shortly after Brown was recalled to Washington last week, officials close to the FEMA director said he would likely resign. They said that even before Katrina, Brown had been planning on leaving the administration late this fall to go into the private sector.

 

[sodaseller]

Here's the entire portion of that interview. Clearly she meant that it was hard to get them to work meaning transportion to work, not get them to show up, on a day with decent weather, let alone have the transportation available to evacuate the entire city.

You can argue whether she's right or not, but she wasn't insulting the city employees or even speaking of the city employees, she was talking about the civilian population.



The bolding is mine.

Not sure if that was an effective or accurate sentiment, but certainly her intended meaning is different that what was portrayed.

 

[wvrevy]

Just read this quote in the Yahoo article about the resignation:

Brown, who said he last talked to Bush five or six days ago, said the resignation was his idea. He spoke on Saturday to White House chief of staff Andy Card, who did not request his departure, according to Brown.

So in other words, no, he wasn't held accountable. He did the honorable thing and fell on his sword.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Just read this quote in the Yahoo article about the resignation:



So in other words, no, he wasn't held accountable. He did the honorable thing and fell on his sword.

wrong, if you see my post above, he already had another job lined up.

 

[C.Ann]

If the incompetent are leaving...give me a minute...I've got a laundry list and it starts from the top on down!!

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Yup.. I think I might have the same list that you do..

 

[peachgirl]

Just read this quote in the Yahoo article about the resignation:



So in other words, no, he wasn't held accountable. He did the honorable thing and fell on his sword.

I had heard on the news Saturday that this was the route they were going to take...that and they were going to say he was going to resign this fall anyway.

Of course he wasn't held responsible. If they admitted he was incompetent and that his resume was a lie, where would you look next?

Oh yeah, the guy who hired him! In order for Brownie to be incompetent, they have to admit that Bu$h made a mistake....that's not going to happen.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

So in other words, no, he wasn't held accountable. He did the honorable thing and fell on his sword.

Interesting point! This also goes hand in hand with the President telling ol' Brownie that he was doing a heck of a job...

ThAnswr- Love your "All manna flows from Bush"...maybe we can lobby the Treasury Depatment to change "In God We Trust" on US currency to your manna quote. I'll get to work on it right after I finish getting the 22nd Amendment changed so we can have Bush as president for ever and ever...

 

[Kitty 34]

Nah, they won't take him back.

"they" meaning the horses, no doubt!

 

[diznygirl]

Oh please! He did not have another job lined up! Bush said "Thanks Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job, now I've got one more favor to ask of you - resign or be fired." That's why he was called back to DC. Saying he had another job lined up is just trying to save face.

Sheesh! Doesn't anyone watch West Wing?

 

[sodaseller]

I will disagree. I suspect that Brown will be held "accountable", such that the talking points in the next few days will focus on how every bit of the federal government's falure was his personal responsibility, when it was really more a matter of philosophy than individual competence