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I tried searching for information about visiting Miami. I only really found threads that were centered around cruises leaving from the port in Miami.

I'm interested in possibly visiting Miami in January 2021.
It would be a girls trip....myself, my DD (22), her friend (21) and friends mom, who is also my friend.

We live in WI where winters are long and generally intolerable. Looking for something in US, but kinda 'guaranteed' to be warm.
I know Miami has a beach, but not much else honestly. None of us 4 have visited Miami previously.

Looking for recommendations from anyone willing to help.
Where to stay? Safe and decently nice....
Do we need a car? Uber? An area to stay that is totally walkable? Not sure which of these would be a best fit for us...
Where to avoid? 4 ladies from out of town don't want to accidentally go to 'bad' areas...
What to do? Which beach(es) in particular, any other activities that may be of interest to 2 college age girls and their moms...
Where to eat? We enjoy a nice restaurant on vacation. Not picky, like trying new things....

TIA for any information! :flower3:
 
Been there once on a solo trip. It was sports related, but most of what I did there was visit various places. Didn't do that much around Miami per se. Also -

The big beach is actually in the city of Miami Beach, which is not technically part of Miami. There's the city of Miami, which is only a small part of the area. Much of the rest of Miami-Dade County is often referred to as Miami.

I found there was really good food in Miami Beach along Ocean Drive. I ate a fancy seafood restaurant. I think it was A Fish Called Avalon at the Avalon Hotel.

I did a national park tour including Everglades National Park and Biscayne National Park, although I visited during the wet season and a storm passing through messed with my plans. I also drove to Key West. I don't really have that much more to day other than the Cuban food in the area is incredible. The one place I'm still hoping to go back to some day is Luis Galindo's Latin American Cafeteria. It was recommended to me by a student at Florida International University, where I went to watch an event. They had the best sandwich I've ever had - the Cubano especial. One time I wanted one really bad but couldn't find parking. The entire block has no street parking, and their lot (shared with other businesses) was completely full.
 

Been there once on a solo trip. It was sports related, but most of what I did there was visit various places. Didn't do that much around Miami per se. Also -

The big beach is actually in the city of Miami Beach, which is not technically part of Miami. There's the city of Miami, which is only a small part of the area. Much of the rest of Miami-Dade County is often referred to as Miami.

I found there was really good food in Miami Beach along Ocean Drive. I ate a fancy seafood restaurant. I think it was A Fish Called Avalon at the Avalon Hotel.

I did a national park tour including Everglades National Park and Biscayne National Park, although I visited during the wet season and a storm passing through messed with my plans. I also drove to Key West. I don't really have that much more to day other than the Cuban food in the area is incredible. The one place I'm still hoping to go back to some day is Luis Galindo's Latin American Cafeteria. It was recommended to me by a student at Florida International University, where I went to watch an event. They had the best sandwich I've ever had - the Cubano especial. One time I wanted one really bad but couldn't find parking. The entire block has no street parking, and their lot (shared with other businesses) was completely full.
Thank you! All help is appreciated!
 
We went the spring of last year. The Fountainbleau was gorgeous but I saw people engaging in 'acts' in public and watched people putting out cigarettes in the pool breaking all kinds of rules without staff reacting at all, which made me think this is how they do things so never again. We did stay at the Mandarin Oriental a while back, that was very pretty. I think next time I will do a venmo apartment, B&B or something like that, they seem to have many rentals in the gorgeous high rises on the water but be aware there is extreme poverty just a block or so in from the water and the things that go along with that sad circumstance. In my experience, in most cities there are luxury hotels (= safe) and then everything else is iffy.
 
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I don't have time to answer in detail, and having lived here most of my adult life -- my answers will be in detail!

But I think a few key questions are:
  1. How long do you have?
  2. What are your interests? Beach? Food? Clubbing? Nature? Fishing? Diving? Multi-cultural (Cuban, Haitian, Peruvian, Venezuelan, Bahamian, or several dozen others?)
  3. Do you want to stay in one place, or maybe move during your stay?
  4. Are you cruising? (Hint -- DON'T cruise this January! Enjoy the beautiful ships from a distance.)
Don't worry about places to stay. There are tons of great places where you won't have to worry about safety.

Give me more info and I can possibly help.
 
I am a huge Golden Girls fan so got the title. That is my favorite episode. I visited years ago with my family and we were there for a few days prior to a cruise. We are big animal people so we visited the zoo, aquarium, Jungle Island as well as the botanical gardens and Vizcaya mansion or whatever it is called. We stayed near the cruise port but can’t remember which hotel. We used taxis but know they have transportation. Not sure if all of that is open due to Covid.
 
We went the spring of last year. The Fountainbleau was gorgeous but I saw people engaging in 'acts' in public and watched people putting out cigarettes in the pool breaking all kinds of rules without staff reacting at all, which made me think this is how they do things so never again. We did stay at the Mandarin Oriental a while back, that was very pretty. I think next time I will do a venmo apartment, B&B or something like that, they seem to have many rentals in the gorgeous high rises on the water but be aware there is extreme poverty just a block or so in from the water and the things that go along with that sad circumstance. In my experience, in most cities there are luxury hotels (= safe) and then everything else is iffy.
Miami is a city of contrast

two places to live, with the rich or with the poor, not much in between

In witner the weather is Heven, in the summer its Hell
I am a huge Golden Girls fan so got the title. That is my favorite episode. I visited years ago with my family and we were there for a few days prior to a cruise. We are big animal people so we visited the zoo, aquarium, Jungle Island as well as the botanical gardens and Vizcaya mansion or whatever it is called. We stayed near the cruise port but can’t remember which hotel. We used taxis but know they have transportation. Not sure if all of that is open due to Covid.
Let's just say that the Miami area is the center of the Covid problems here in Florida.
still less than what is happening in Wisconsin right now. so its a great time to get out of cheeseland and head south.
Blue sky, sunshine, white sand by the mile!!

Thank you for all the input!
I will check out the places you mentioned @LuvOrlando
 
I don't have time to answer in detail, and having lived here most of my adult life -- my answers will be in detail!

But I think a few key questions are:
  1. How long do you have?
  2. What are your interests? Beach? Food? Clubbing? Nature? Fishing? Diving? Multi-cultural (Cuban, Haitian, Peruvian, Venezuelan, Bahamian, or several dozen others?)
  3. Do you want to stay in one place, or maybe move during your stay?
  4. Are you cruising? (Hint -- DON'T cruise this January! Enjoy the beautiful ships from a distance.)
Don't worry about places to stay. There are tons of great places where you won't have to worry about safety.

Give me more info and I can possibly help.

Thank you for volunteering your knowledge!!
1. We are thinking 5 nights, due to the girls schedules.
2. Interests are beach, food, shopping and a bit of nature. Not sure about clubbing...all are over 21. Don't know what that experience looks like....need a bit of input.
I'm very interested in learning about cultures, but I know the girls wouldn't like museums on vacation, lol! If there are other ways to experience culture that would be 'fun' to 2 college girls, I'm open!
3. Flexible on this, but probably move 1 time maximum given trip duration. Open to hotel, Airbnb, etc
4. No way!

Is there a central pedestrian area, where we can walk out our front door and have access to beach, shopping, and variety of restaurants? Is this the most desirable area to stay?

Any specific areas to avoid? Could be boring, unsafe, far away from things to do...

Probably would list beach as our #1, but could get a bit boring all day for 5 days in a row. Looking to fill in with some other activities...

I seem to remember that you have a DD kinda close to the age of mine. What would she do with a friend visiting the area for the first time?

Hope that helps you...help me...thanks :D
 
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Another option for a vacation could be Hollywood Beach. It is north of Miami...between there and Fort Lauderdale. It has a nice two mile long boardwalk lined with hotels, shops and restaurants. From there you can take the water taxi to Ft Lauderdale via the intracoastal. Ft Lauderdale beach is also nice as well. I prefer either of these over Miami actually.

My daughter and I actually did a Florida getaway in February there two years ago and had a great time. She was 18 at the time. We also rented a car and drove to Key West for the day which was great.

check out sunny.org.
 
Another option for a vacation could be Hollywood Beach. It is north of Miami...between there and Fort Lauderdale. It has a nice two mile long boardwalk lined with hotels, shops and restaurants. From there you can take the water taxi to Ft Lauderdale via the intracoastal. Ft Lauderdale beach is also nice as well. I prefer either of these over Miami actually.

My daughter and I actually did a Florida getaway in February there two years ago and had a great time. She was 18 at the time. We also rented a car and drove to Key West for the day which was great.

check out sunny.org.
Thanks!
 
Thank you for volunteering your knowledge!!
1. We are thinking 5 nights, due to the girls schedules.
2. Interests are beach, food, shopping and a bit of nature. Not sure about clubbing...all are over 21. Don't know what that experience looks like....need a bit of input.
I'm very interested in learning about cultures, but I know the girls wouldn't like museums on vacation, lol! If there are other ways to experience culture that would be 'fun' to 2 college girls, I'm open!
3. Flexible on this, but probably move 1 time maximum given trip duration. Open to hotel, Airbnb, etc
4. No way!

Is there a central pedestrian area, where we can walk out our front door and have access to beach, shopping, and variety of restaurants? Is this the most desirable area to stay?

Any specific areas to avoid? Could be boring, unsafe, far away from things to do...

Probably would list beach as our #1, but could get a bit boring all day for 5 days in a row. Looking to fill in with some other activities...

I seem to remember that you have a DD kinda close to the age of mine. What would she do with a friend visiting the area for the first time?

Hope that helps you...help me...thanks :D
OK, Miami Beach should be the focus of your trip, so let’s have a little MB geography lesson. Miami Beach has basically 3 main regions – South Beach, Middle Beach, and North Beach.

Miami Beach’s areas start at South Point, at the very southern tip, and the street numbers go up from there. South Beach is 0-23 Streets, Middle Beach is 23-63 Streets, and North Beach is north of 63rd to the town of Surfside, which starts at 88th Street.

There are no bad areas to avoid on Miami Beach. Middle Beach is hotels on the beach, residential otherwise. North Beach is mostly residential.

You want South Beach, and I’m sorry, but we apparently can no longer post screenshots or maps, so I can’t do that. I’ll describe the geography as best I can.

Transportation:


For Miami Beach, I would use a combination of public transportation (some of it free) and Uber. The Beach is not a good place to drive, because parking is very limited, enforcement is aggressively predatory, and traffic is bad.

If you do a day trip or a trip to the Keys, a rental car would be advised.

South Beach – From 0 to about 23rd Street.
This is the main tourist area. The easternmost part of South Beach is the beachfront itself, but to the surprise of many, almost the entire interior of the island is quiet residential.

The main north-south roadways are Collins Avenue along the beach side of the island and Alton Road on the west side. From 0 to about 22 Street, Washington Ave, just west of Collins, is also a main thoroughfare.

Here are some of the main parts of SoBe, as we call it.

SoFi – “South of Fifth”
Fifth Street is the main inbound roadway for SoBe – MacArthur Causeway from downtown, which passes right by all the cruise ships and ends in Miami Beach. SoFi is the southern tip of Miami Beach. It has some very upscale condos, and a very nice restaurant district – and a large public park, oddly enough called South Pointe Park.

SoFi is noted primarily for its restaurants. THE legendary restaurant is Joe’s Stone Crabs at 11 Washington Ave. Plan on $100+ per person – I took our next door neighbors last season and the bill was $550 for the 4 of us with modest drinks and tip – so Joe’s ain’t cheap. If you want to go to Joe’s, let me know and I’ll give you more info. There are many, many other good restaurants in this area. The best intel on restaurants would be from your concierge if you are in a hotel, because they come and go.

Ocean Drive
THE famous part of SoBe is Ocean Drive, which runs from 0 to 15th Street, and actually the main part of it is between 5th and 15th. Ocean Drive is immediately ON the beach – cross the street and broad walkways and you’re in sand.

Ocean Drive is lined with restaurants, the most famous of which are Mango’s, News Café, and the legendary Clevelander. Lots of other cafés, clubs, etc.

A couple of cautions about Ocean Drive:
  • Don’t go there to eat. It’s way overpriced, and there is much better food elsewhere for a lot less money. Ocean Drive is a place for walking, people-watching, etc – not dining.
  • NEVER order anything in one of the cafés without asking the price first! You’ll get some “special” cocktail that’s two for one, and the first one will be served in a 10 gallon aquarium sized glass…for $65. Most of the places on Ocean Drive are reputable, but not all are, and not all wait-staff are – so always price before you order.
  • Also let your waiter know that you will need an itemized bill for your expense account – BEFORE you order. Otherwise, they may charge you whatever they feel like charging you.
  • For casual tourists, OD is much better in the daytime – early evening. Late at night, it’s a place to be rowdy.
Lincoln Road
This is the walk, dine, shop, people-watch place close to the beach.
Lincoln Road is mostly a pedestrian mall for about a mile. It runs east-west between Collins and Alton Rd, and is between 16th Street and 17th Street – so it’s toward the north end of South Beach.

Lots of good shopping, from high-end to tacky tourist teeshirt shops. Also lots of good outdoor dining, which will be perfect in January. We usually go to Segafredo L’Originale near the west end of Lincoln Road at Lennox Avenue. Good Italian food, good service, been there for many years…a local’s place.

Another place that is supposed to be very good is Yardbird Southern Table and Bar. That’s a Southern homestyle cooking place just south of Lincoln Road at Lennox Ave and 16th Street.

Sunset Harbor
This is a newer area of restaurants that is supposed to be very good. We haven’t eaten there, so I can’t give any specific recommendations. It’s further west from Lincoln Road, on Biscayne Bay between 17th and 20th Streets.

Lodging in South Beach:
  • Air BnB in South Beach is tightly restricted, so you may not be able to find one in SoBe. If you do find one on the website, it will be legit because AirBnB is very well aware of the restrictions.
  • Upscale oceanfront lodging – If you want upscale, I would recommend the 1 Hotel, located at 22 Street and Collins, or the Lowe’s Hotel at 16th and Collins.
  • Moderate lodging – Hampton Inn – 17th and Collins. One block east to the beach, one block south to Lincoln Road
  • AirBnB’s in North Beach and Surfside – these would be less expensive, but you’d have an Uber ride to go anywhere. In the long run, might not save you that much money.
Clubbing:
I would recommend STORY on Collins, between 1st and 2nd Streets. This is the massive sister club to LIV at the Fontainebleau. High energy, lots of music and dancing, celebrity sightings are common.

There are lots of other clubs on Collins and Washington, north of 5th Street. I’m not a clubber, but people at your hotel can give you good suggestions.

Same caution on pricing applies to any club. KNOW what you are ordering and how much it costs -- and insist on an itemized bill..

*****
I'll post some additional ideas for nature, culture, etc, later.
 
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You may find exactly what you seek in greater hollywood/fort lauderdale area for considerably less money, including multiple beaches to choose from, plenty of back country waterways for kayaking, paddleboarding, etc, tons of fun people watching and things to do and downtown, elegant shopping/electic dining, and a wide range of accommodations at every pricepoint. As someone else mentioned, look at sunny.org before you finalize your decision.

If you can possibly manage it, try to fit in a day trip to Key Largo or Islamaroda for some snorkeling at stunning reefs - just 90 min from Miami.

I absolutely adore Key West (and the drive over 7 mile bridge is heart-stoppingly beautiful), but I wouldn't suggest going unless you had at least 2+ days to devote there, as it's a 3-4 hour drive away from Miami/Fort Lauderdale and IMO, you can't do it justice in just a day trip. Have fun planning and enjoy!
 
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OK, Miami Beach should be the focus of your trip, so let’s have a little MB geography lesson. Miami Beach has basically 3 main regions – South Beach, Middle Beach, and North Beach.

Miami Beach’s areas start at South Point, at the very southern tip, and the street numbers go up from there. South Beach is 0-23 Streets, Middle Beach is 23-63 Streets, and North Beach is north of 63rd to the town of Surfside, which starts at 88th Street.

There are no bad areas to avoid on Miami Beach. Middle Beach is hotels on the beach, residential otherwise. North Beach is mostly residential.

You want South Beach, and I’m sorry, but we apparently can no longer post screenshots or maps, so I can’t do that. I’ll describe the geography as best I can.

Transportation:


For Miami Beach, I would use a combination of public transportation (some of it free) and Uber. The Beach is not a good place to drive, because parking is very limited, enforcement is aggressively predatory, and traffic is bad.

If you do a day trip or a trip to the Keys, a rental car would be advised.

South Beach – From 0 to about 23rd Street.
This is the main tourist area. The easternmost part of South Beach is the beachfront itself, but to the surprise of many, almost the entire interior of the island is quiet residential.

The main north-south roadways are Collins Avenue along the beach side of the island and Alton Road on the west side. From 0 to about 22 Street, Washington Ave, just west of Collins, is also a main thoroughfare.

Here are some of the main parts of SoBe, as we call it.

SoFi – “South of Fifth”
Fifth Street is the main inbound roadway for SoBe – MacArthur Causeway from downtown, which passes right by all the cruise ships and ends in Miami Beach. SoFi is the southern tip of Miami Beach. It has some very upscale condos, and a very nice restaurant district – and a large public park, oddly enough called South Pointe Park.

SoFi is noted primarily for its restaurants. THE legendary restaurant is Joe’s Stone Crabs at 11 Washington Ave. Plan on $100+ per person – I took our next door neighbors last season and the bill was $550 for the 4 of us with modest drinks and tip – so Joe’s ain’t cheap. If you want to go to Joe’s, let me know and I’ll give you more info. There are many, many other good restaurants in this area. The best intel on restaurants would be from your concierge if you are in a hotel, because they come and go.

Ocean Drive
THE famous part of SoBe is Ocean Drive, which runs from 0 to 15th Street, and actually the main part of it is between 5th and 15th. Ocean Drive is immediately ON the beach – cross the street and broad walkways and you’re in sand.

Ocean Drive is lined with restaurants, the most famous of which are Mango’s, News Café, and the legendary Clevelander. Lots of other cafés, clubs, etc.

A couple of cautions about Ocean Drive:
  • Don’t go there to eat. It’s way overpriced, and there is much better food elsewhere for a lot less money. Ocean Drive is a place for walking, people-watching, etc – not dining.
  • NEVER order anything in one of the cafés without asking the price first! You’ll get some “special” cocktail that’s two for one, and the first one will be served in a 10 gallon aquarium sized glass…for $65. Most of the places on Ocean Drive are reputable, but not all are, and not all wait-staff are – so always price before you order.
  • Also let your waiter know that you will need an itemized bill for your expense account – BEFORE you order. Otherwise, they may charge you whatever they feel like charging you.
  • For casual tourists, OD is much better in the daytime – early evening. Late at night, it’s a place to be rowdy.
Lincoln Road
This is the walk, dine, shop, people-watch place close to the beach.
Lincoln Road is mostly a pedestrian mall for about a mile. It runs east-west between Collins and Alton Rd, and is between 16th Street and 17th Street – so it’s toward the north end of South Beach.

Lots of good shopping, from high-end to tacky tourist teeshirt shops. Also lots of good outdoor dining, which will be perfect in January. We usually go to Segafredo L’Originale near the west end of Lincoln Road at Lennox Avenue. Good Italian food, good service, been there for many years…a local’s place.

Another place that is supposed to be very good is Yardbird Southern Table and Bar. That’s a Southern homestyle cooking place just south of Lincoln Road at Lennox Ave and 16th Street.

Sunset Harbor
This is a newer area of restaurants that is supposed to be very good. We haven’t eaten there, so I can’t give any specific recommendations. It’s further west from Lincoln Road, on Biscayne Bay between 17th and 20th Streets.

Lodging in South Beach:
  • Air BnB in South Beach is tightly restricted, so you may not be able to find one in SoBe. If you do find one on the website, it will be legit because AirBnB is very well aware of the restrictions.
  • Upscale oceanfront lodging – If you want upscale, I would recommend the 1 Hotel, located at 22 Street and Collins, or the Lowe’s Hotel at 16th and Collins.
  • Moderate lodging – Hampton Inn – 17th and Collins. One block east to the beach, one block south to Lincoln Road
  • AirBnB’s in North Beach and Surfside – these would be less expensive, but you’d have an Uber ride to go anywhere. In the long run, might not save you that much money.
Clubbing:
I would recommend STORY on Collins, between 1st and 2nd Streets. This is the massive sister club to LIV at the Fontainebleau. High energy, lots of music and dancing, celebrity sightings are common.

There are lots of other clubs on Collins and Washington, north of 5th Street. I’m not a clubber, but people at your hotel can give you good suggestions.

Same caution on pricing applies to any club. KNOW what you are ordering and how much it costs -- and insist on an itemized bill..

*****
I'll post some additional ideas for nature, culture, etc, later.
Thank you so much!!! Extremely helpful!:worship:
 

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