Mexicos War On America

[CapeCodTenor]

Wow...Man, I wish I could write satire that brilliantly !

What's that? You mean someone was actually serious about this nonsense?

 

[scrump]

Part of me thinks of the Japenese camps they had during the war--when they unfairly and illegally made them all go to camps for the protection of the country (slaughtering my history--so my apologies).

But in that instance--the Japense were here legally. They did nothing wrong.

I can see where you might see the similarities, but not the same at all. Many of the interned were U.S. citizens (up to 100,00 out of 120,000 by some accounts), and the "protection" was due to the wartime hysteria of WWII, and not really due to illegal immigration. Ironically, not one case of Japanese-American espionage or disloyalty was ever proven since WWII.

The Japanese American internment camps are considered more of a violation of constitutional rights due U.S. citizens, rather than amesty for illegal aliens.

 

[marcotter]

An individual who holds the English language in such high regard really should learn to use it properly.

Lets see, I typed that around 1:30 in the morning after I got home from my second job for the day. Well excuse me if I was a little tired and am not the perfect typist in the world!! I take it you were able to understand what was written, because if not you would have not been able to so graciously point out the errors!! Thank you very much.

 

[DawnCt1]

I was listening to Glenn Beck the other morning on the way to work, and he said that more than $65 BILLION dollars a year is paid in welfare, health care, and cost of schooling for illegal aliens. That number is astronomical and outrageous!

It should be a no brainer that the cheap head of lettuce and the quart of strawberries is heavily subsidized by the American tax payer. So the next time you pick up 3 heads of lettuce for $2.79, remember its not as cheap as it appears.

 

[Viking]

So now it's our fault that people choose to break the law? So let me see if I understand this, it's our fault that we produce to much agriculture and other items of consumption. Hmmmm, no, it’s not our fault, sorry. Maybe if President Vicente Fox worked hard at turning the Mexican economy around and making Mexico an attractive country economically we would not have this problem. Just a thought.

Yes, it is your fault. And BTW, Americans are the often the first to cry out loud when another country is threatening their economy. Just remember the whining when Daimler took over Chrysler.
But to avoid a wrong impression: We in the European Union are making exactly the same mistakes with the result of millions of Africans entering our countries illegally. The only way for us rich countries to prevent being overrun by the poor of the world is to fight poverty abroad and help less privileged countries to become so attractive for their people that they will stay there.

 

[DawnCt1]

. The only way for us rich countries to prevent being overrun by the poor of the world is to fight poverty abroad and help less privileged countries to become so attractive for their people that they will stay there.

You are aware that we send BILLIONS of dollars abroad in foreign aid, Aren't you???

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

I was listening to Rush today and he made a good point. Why just Mexico. Why not other countries poor people. What I don't understand is why we are trying to find excuses to let illegals live in this country. No other country would allow this. Shame on Mexico for not having a place to live where you can support a family and live a decent life. If they could solve their countries problems maybe we would not have so many illegals trying to cross the borders. It really boils down to the all mighty dollar. Buisnesses are thrilled for cheap labor. Mexicans are thrilled to make a dollar. Elected officials just care about votes to keep making their dollars. In the end the working people of this country are supporting all these people coming into our country illegally. Maybe in a few years all the jobs won't be going to Mexico. The Mexicans can work here for lower wages. What is happening to this country??

 

[wvrevy]

#1 - Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Neither one has ever met a "fact" they couldn't twist until it meant something totally different than reality (maybe it's the drugs? ).

#2 - Viking is right. The only way you fix the problem is by treating the root cause. Until their economy improves to the point that people can actually make a living, you can build all the "New Berlin Wall's" and arm as many rednecks as you want, people are still going to come into the country illegally. And no, Dawn, that doesn't mean "throw money at the problem (though, I can understand how a Bush "Republican" might think that). What is the solution? Honestly, I don't know. But I can guarantee that writing a check isn't going to be a large part of it.

 

[disneyaggie]

Here is my question . . . so what is Mexico's President Vicente Fox doing to better his economy, besides send his people to America? Why don't the Mexicans protest there in Mexico in front of his offices, while the kids skip school to march around the streets to make their statements like they do here in America? Why are the Mexicans not holding him accountable for their lack of jobs and benefits?

I am open to hear any and all answers to this.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Isn't that how your country was founded?
Did the Pilgrim Fathers ask the Native Americans for working permits or did they have green cards when the arrived?

OK, back to topic:
Part of the problem is caused by the USA itself:
-Mexicans are coming to the USA because they are poor and see better chances to make a living in Los Estados Unidos.
-Many of those Mexicans are bankrupt small farmers or unemployed agricultural workers.
-Many of them are unemployed or bankrupt because American corn from US-overproduction was sold at dumping prices in Mexico thus taking away the source of income for aforementioned people.

Talking about the official language:
Please make English your official language and then make taking a language test mandatory for everyone. You could i.e. test the people by making them say 'Nuclear'. Everyone who can't say that will be thrown out of the country, which would solve your biggest problem

So I can plop on over to Germany and stay as long as I like, right? What other country in the World is expected to ignore their immigration laws and have open season for foreigners to come on in.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I can see where you might see the similarities, but not the same at all. Many of the interned were U.S. citizens (up to 100,00 out of 120,000 by some accounts), and the "protection" was due to the wartime hysteria of WWII, and not really due to illegal immigration. Ironically, not one case of Japanese-American espionage or disloyalty was ever proven since WWII.

The Japanese American internment camps are considered more of a violation of constitutional rights due U.S. citizens, rather than amesty for illegal aliens.

That is what I meant (I knew the Japanese were legal citizens and though that I had clarified that)--i think people will eventually compare the two when it is two entirely different things. Gathering up illegals and deporting them is not unconstituationl. Gathering up citizens of one ethnicity and requiring them to live in a particular area is.


I am recalling the scenario b/c I think one day---it will be used to justify why ILLEGAL people have a constitutional right to be here. And one day--it would be lovely for all those who wish to move here for all the other countries--will use that as well but then told--but no...you can't do that. Why--well b/c there is no constitutional protection for that. No non-american citizen has a constitutional right to be here. They are protected in how they are treated (i.e. they get the same rights in terms of right to remain silent--right to an attorney, no cruel and unusual punishment)---but they don't have all the rights and protections as they are not citizens. They must have a visa or a passport or shots or a green card can only stay here for 30 days, for 60 days...whatever. B/c they are not American citizens.

It is discrimintation--but not in the way the Mexicans are thinking....it is giving illegal Mexican immigrants special privileges that they did not earn or do not deserve and should not have.

The pregnant momma living in a mud hut line is getting a bit old---and it is only time when they are compared to the internment camps of WWII.

 

[ElizK]

#1 - Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Neither one has ever met a "fact" they couldn't twist until it meant something totally different than reality (maybe it's the drugs? ).

#2 - Viking is right. The only way you fix the problem is by treating the root cause. Until their economy improves to the point that people can actually make a living, you can build all the "New Berlin Wall's" and arm as many rednecks as you want, people are still going to come into the country illegally. And no, Dawn, that doesn't mean "throw money at the problem (though, I can understand how a Bush "Republican" might think that). What is the solution? Honestly, I don't know. But I can guarantee that writing a check isn't going to be a large part of it.

Thank you ever so much for your constructive input. Very helpful. I suppose I should be listening to CNN for fair and balanced news.

 

[momof2inPA]

Isn't that how your country was founded?
Did the Pilgrim Fathers ask the Native Americans for working permits or did they have green cards when the arrived?

OK, back to topic:
Part of the problem is caused by the USA itself:
-Mexicans are coming to the USA because they are poor and see better chances to make a living in Los Estados Unidos.
-Many of those Mexicans are bankrupt small farmers or unemployed agricultural workers.
-Many of them are unemployed or bankrupt because American corn from US-overproduction was sold at dumping prices in Mexico thus taking away the source of income for aforementioned people.

Talking about the official language:
Please make English your official language and then make taking a language test mandatory for everyone. You could i.e. test the people by making them say 'Nuclear'. Everyone who can't say that will be thrown out of the country, which would solve your biggest problem

Come on, Viking. I was in Germany when they decided to grant citizenship to anyone with proven German heritage. The populous was up in arms. No civilized country is as open to illegal immigration as the U.S.

 

[momof2inPA]

I'm with Dawn on this one. We've thrown enough of our jobs south of the border, just look at the abandoned factories in Ohio, PA, and WV. On top of that, we are supposed to let the poor Mexicans who want to work illegally, come here and do so? Plus, we should subsidize the others who can't get jobs or who are not being paid enough by the maquiladoras with our tax money? No thanks.

Instead, let's build that wall and hire those border patrols. Let's strengthen our laws and enforce them. Let the corporations who have relocated to Mexico pay for their charities and social programs. I'm sick of being taken advantage of.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Here is my question . . . so what is Mexico's President Vicente Fox doing to better his economy, besides send his people to America? Why don't the Mexicans protest there in Mexico in front of his offices, while the kids skip school to march around the streets to make their statements like they do here in America? Why are the Mexicans not holding him accountable for their lack of jobs and benefits?

I am open to hear any and all answers to this.

If the Mexican people protested they would at the least be beaten if not shot by the Federalies. Okay maybe a slight exaggeration, but here is an example of things that happen: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/07/15/mexico9079.htm

We are talking about a country, where people will abandon their cars on the side of a highway if they get in an accident because they get hauled off to jail for being involved in an accident. So many people have no idea what really goes on in Mexico.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

#1 - Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Neither one has ever met a "fact" they couldn't twist until it meant something totally different than reality (maybe it's the drugs? ).

wvrevy is right we should ignore Rush, and Glenn and listen to the likes of Cynthia McKinney. If we don't she will beat us over the head with her cell phone.

 

[MrsKreamer]

If the Mexican people protested they would at the least be beaten if not shot by the Federalies. Okay maybe a slight exaggeration, but here is an example of things that happen: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/07/15/mexico9079.htm

We are talking about a country, where people will abandon their cars on the side of a highway if they get in an accident because they get hauled off to jail for being involved in an accident. So many people have no idea what really goes on in Mexico.

So that is the US's problem?

 

[Charade]

##2 - Viking is right. The only way you fix the problem is by treating the root cause. Until their economy improves to the point that people can actually make a living, you can build all the "New Berlin Wall's" and arm as many rednecks as you want, people are still going to come into the country illegally. And no, Dawn, that doesn't mean "throw money at the problem (though, I can understand how a Bush "Republican" might think that). What is the solution? Honestly, I don't know. But I can guarantee that writing a check isn't going to be a large part of it.

So if I pay a burglar a decent wage he won't rob my house? Is that what you're saying?

 

[ucfsweetie82]

I have no problem with anyone who is in the US legally, but if you visit a country or move there, you should know the culture and be able to speak so of that nation's language. When I hear someone act like I'm second rate because I don't speak Spanish in the United States, it makes me mad. I would never expect to be accommodated the way many people do.
If you are going to live in this country, you need to know the culture and language.

 

[PixieDust32]

Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans!!! Why only Mexicans? Illegal immigrants are also from China, Venezuela, Peru, El Salvador, Colombia, Honudras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Republica Dominicana, Guatemala, Panama, etc.
The issue is about illegal immigration, not about just Mexicans. Yes, illegal immigration is a crime, but now being a Mexican is a crime, legal or illegal. Not right.