Medical Insurance: PPO vs. HMO. Which is better?

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It's that time of year where I need to switch my medical plan to one available under the Affordable Care Act. I most likely will qualify for a subsidy, but through my insurance, the only plans available under the subsidies are the HMO ones. What's the difference really? What can I expect if I do go under an HMO plan? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
It's that time of year where I need to switch my medical plan to one available under the Affordable Care Act. I most likely will qualify for a subsidy, but through my insurance, the only plans available under the subsidies are the HMO ones. What's the difference really? What can I expect if I do go under an HMO plan? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Are you asking the difference between an HMO and a PPO?

With an HMO you have a primary care physician that you see. If you want to see a specialist, say a dermatologist, endocrinologist, etc., you must first get a referral from your primary and go to one of the in-network doctors. If you have a PPO, you don't need the referral, you can make your own appointments.

Typically PPO's are more expensive because you have more freedom. I have an HMO, but am reasonably healthy and my primary doctor covers all of my needs so I don't have to deal with referrals much.
 
Are you asking the difference between an HMO and a PPO?

Oh heck, I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out what will fit my needs better. I'm reasonably healthy, but am just wondering if PPO is better than HMO. :rotfl2:
 

Oh heck, I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out what will fit my needs better. I'm reasonably healthy, but am just wondering if PPO is better than HMO. :rotfl2:

The PPO gives you more control, but you pay for it with higher premiums.

My FIL has a HMO and it is giving him fits. He hates his cardiologist, but his PCP refuses to give him a referral to another one.
 
If you are reasonably healthy o would go with a hmo. Just make sure you pick a good primary physician as he or she will be your gatekeeper in referring you to the specialists

If you have health issues then def. consider the ppo as you have more access yourself to drs. and appts. etc.

We did have an hmo for a while and it was a nightmare when I needed surgery once. Never again for us.
 
Just an FYI regarding HMOs...they are not all the same.

We have had an HMO plan for the last 18 years, and we have never needed a referral to see a specialist. Read the terms of your plan carefully.

Good luck with your decision!
 
I've been in an HMO for at least 40 years. Well, longer if you consider the health care I got as a kid a type of HMO (dad in the military). I love the fact that everything is available (hospital, doctors, specialists) and I don't have to seek them out on my own.

We can select our own doctor out of the ones in the HMO, and referrals to other clinics (not all specialties require a referral) are easy to get. I can email my doctor at any time and will receive a reply within a day.

Unfortunately, when DH retires, the area we were thinking about moving to doesn't have the HMO we are currently with. And I just don't want to think about having to research doctors/hospitals/what's available at this time of my life.
 
with either a ppo or an hmo research the availability of doctors in your care region THAT ARE ACCEPTING NEW PATIENTS.

we've had both-with our ppo we had an awesome pcp who we lucked into getting b/c he hadn't taken new patients in years but b/c his group signed up with our insurance plan each doctor was randomly assigned so many new patients. he was a great 'gatekeeper' who would not hesitate to do a referral if it was warranted. I had a ppo prior to that and it was fine, have one now and not so much so b/c my insurance company feels under no obligation to contract preferred providers so that means while I can go to anyone it's after my deductible and with MUCH higher co-pays.

if you already have a primary doctor-call their office and ask if they are covered by either plan, and you might even ask if they have any opinions on either from a provider referral standpoint (I am VERY AWARE of why providers don't want to be affiliated w/my insurance company but it's the only one available to me so I just have to deal with it).
 
Theres also a new one called EPO. My insurance company no longer offers PPO... replaced it with EPO.
 
Are you asking the difference between an HMO and a PPO?

With an HMO you have a primary care physician that you see. If you want to see a specialist, say a dermatologist, endocrinologist, etc., you must first get a referral from your primary and go to one of the in-network doctors. If you have a PPO, you don't need the referral, you can make your own appointments.

Typically PPO's are more expensive because you have more freedom. I have an HMO, but am reasonably healthy and my primary doctor covers all of my needs so I don't have to deal with referrals much.

We have an HMO and don't need a referral to see any doctor or specialist. We don't have to get a referral for anything.
 
Oh heck, I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out what will fit my needs better. I'm reasonably healthy, but am just wondering if PPO is better than HMO. :rotfl2:

HMO's have a limited network so if you travel, it could be an issue. Very few HMO's work like people are saying here, no referrals, so do make sure you read your plan very carefully. Kaiser in CA has a nice HMO, the rest, not so much. I hate HMO's really, except Kaiser in CA ;).
 
From what I understand when I was researching this, an HMO is good if you are young and relatively healthy. If you don't go to the dr. much. Maybe a physical and a sick visit now and then.

A PPO is good for people who need to see specialists, and who have any sort of medical issue that requires visits to multiple doctors.
 
Even if you aren't healthy, HMO's aren't always the devil. A lot depends on what kind of docs take your HMO. DH and I both have the same primary doc and she'll happily write a referral if we feel one is needed. If we don't like who she sends us to (hasn't happened yet though, she recommends good people!) she'll send us to someone else. As long as we have the referral, the HMO has paid out all claims, no problem. DH has chronic health problems and I've had some issues lately myself. Having an HMO hasn't been an issue, and has saved us thousands vs. having the PPO my company offers, and we get excellent care.
 
From what I understand when I was researching this, an HMO is good if you are young and relatively healthy. If you don't go to the dr. much. Maybe a physical and a sick visit now and then.

A PPO is good for people who need to see specialists, and who have any sort of medical issue that requires visits to multiple doctors.

You certainly would need a referral from the primary for a first-time visit to a specialist. However, follow-up visits to a specialist don't typically require another referral.

Additionally, there are different types of HMO plans. There's the large insurance companies that provide an "HMO" access. They may not own the entire organization like Kaiser Permanente or Humana, but their policy is that specialists must be referred by a primary.

My employer's primary plan is a PPO, but with an HMO like copay. I actually work for a pretty large company, and I'm pretty sure that we're self-insured. That basically means the company pays for all covered costs and puts money into a trust fund, but that a traditional health insurance company is contracted to get access to a provider network and to administer the program on behalf of my employer. Any "premiums" we pay for family members goes towards the trust fund. If a company is large enough, this usually works out better than paying premiums for large group plans. Of course sometimes it doesn't if the company isn't that large. I remember the CEO of AOL blurted out that their profits were hurt by a couple of covered dependents who had major health costs. He basically got roasted for it in the press because it was highly insensitive.
 
You certainly would need a referral from the primary for a first-time visit to a specialist. However, follow-up visits to a specialist don't typically require another referral.

Additionally, there are different types of HMO plans. There's the large insurance companies that provide an "HMO" access. They may not own the entire organization like Kaiser Permanente or Humana, but their policy is that specialists must be referred by a primary.

My employer's primary plan is a PPO, but with an HMO like copay. I actually work for a pretty large company, and I'm pretty sure that we're self-insured. That basically means the company pays for all covered costs and puts money into a trust fund, but that a traditional health insurance company is contracted to get access to a provider network and to administer the program on behalf of my employer. Any "premiums" we pay for family members goes towards the trust fund. If a company is large enough, this usually works out better than paying premiums for large group plans. Of course sometimes it doesn't if the company isn't that large. I remember the CEO of AOL blurted out that their profits were hurt by a couple of covered dependents who had major health costs. He basically got roasted for it in the press because it was highly insensitive.

Most companies over 100 or so employees are self-insured...something most people don't understand :). Most self-insured plans have a a reinsurer for large claims though too do it doesn't hurt them that much.
 
OP would be well served to disregard all the posts about whether specialist referrals are needed. It really varies by plan so the specifics of the plans under his/her consideration are the realities to be concerned with.
 
OP would be well served to disregard all the posts about whether specialist referrals are needed. It really varies by plan so the specifics of the plans under his/her consideration are the realities to be concerned with.

HMO's by definition require referrals though. :confused3
 
I am old and not particularly healthy. I LOVE my HMO - but only because it is affiliated with Ochsner in New Orleans. They are huge with multiple hospitals in the area and the Ochsner hospital system is one of the top in the country.

Yes I need a referral, but all I have to do is send a message to my pcp online and not only do I get the referral they will usually schedule for me.

I love the online services. If I have a test I can see the results online within hours - often the same day. I also love that all of my doctors are kept in the loop about my medical status.

I do travel,but if I needed to see a doctor out of town I'd just pay out of pocket if I had to. I'm saving hundreds and hundreds of dollars a year using the HMO. I could pay to see an out of network doctor every month and still come out ahead financially.

Some HMOs are really yucky. It all depends on the network.
 












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