Measles outbreak sends unvaccinated students home - What do you think??

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Measles outbreak sends unvaccinated students home
Length of quarantine unfair, says mother
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 | 10:35 AM PT
CBC News

The B.C. Centre for Disease Control says 29 people in B.C. have come down with measles in recent weeks. (CBC)

Unvaccinated students are being sent home from school because of the growing measles outbreak in Vancouver, and that has at least one parent concerned that the policy is unfair.

In recent weeks, eight students in six Vancouver schools have come down with measles, according to Vancouver Coastal Health medical health officer Dr. John Carsley.

When measles is reported in a school, health officials check that all other children and staff have had vaccinations. Those who haven't can be given one if it's detected quickly, said Carsely.

But if they can't get a vaccination in time, unvaccinated children will be sent home for 21 days, he said.

Daughter sent home for three weeks


That's the situation Tania Conley found her daughter in. Even though her daughter isn't sick, the Grade 7 student was sent home for three weeks because a case of measles was detected in her classroom.

Conley said she did not vaccinate her daughter because she had concerns she might have an allergic reaction to the egg products in the vaccine, but she was planning to have her vaccinated when she got older.

"I think every parent, whatever decision they make, it's always because they love their kids, and they want to do what's best. It's not a right or wrong issue," said Conley.

But Conley said the length of the quarantine is too long because she believes measles is only infectious for up to 14 days.

She is also particularly concerned because her daughter had been looking forward to taking part in an upcoming student exchange.

"The timing is just horrible, because it is right when the children are involved in a student exchange with a group of students form Quebec. Our kids had gone to Quebec in February, now it's their turn to host them in B.C.," said Conley.

Risk to others is clear-cut

But the Vancouver Coastal Health authority says the issue is clear-cut: measles normally has an incubation period of two weeks, but it can have an incubation of up to 20 days.

Because even vaccinated children can get sick, a three-week quarantine is necessary to protect all the students, said Carsley

"The policy here in B.C. is very conservative because we want to be sure that somebody who might fall sick, falls sick, and doesn't come back to school if they are sick, and perpetuate the outbreak," said Carsley.

"Usually nobody gets infected because there aren't that many people that can get measles anymore. Occasionally there will be other cases. This is the first time certainly that we have had any sustained transmission for several years in B.C.," he said.

Conley vaccinated her child on Monday, hoping the school would then allow her to attend class this week.

But the district said the vaccination came too late and Conley's daughter will just have to stay home.

Outbreak continues to spread


A total of 29 people across B.C. have been diagnosed with measles since the outbreak began last month, with 10 cases in the Fraser Valley, 14 cases in Metro Vancouver, four cases in the Interior and one case on Vancouver Island.

"It's very unusual because of our vaccination programs. Measles has pretty well disappeared as a disease in North America entirely," said Carsley.

Most children are immunized when they receive two dose of a combined measles, mumps rubella vaccine. But for unvaccinated children, the contagion rate is close to 100 per cent, and they don't have to be in same room as an infected person to catch the disease, he said.

Measles starts with a runny nose and fever, turns into a rash, and can lead to ear infections, pneumonia and even inflammation of the brain. But there's a very high health risk for measles, say health officials. One in 1,000 will get encephalitis, or risk permanent brain damage, and one in 3,000 will die.

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I don't want to turn this into a vaccinate/anti vac thread. But if you make the choice, for whatever reason, to not vaccinate your child then why on Earth would you risk their health and possibly their life by complaining they were sent home when a confirmed case like this is in their classroom!
 
I don't want to turn this into a vaccinate/anti vac thread. But if you make the choice, for whatever reason, to not vaccinate your child then why on Earth would you risk their health and possibly their life by complaining they were sent home when a confirmed case like this is in their classroom!

I completely agree with you. Unfair? What is unfair is for a group of students to decrease the protection of the "herd", risk contracting measles and spreading it to those for whom the vaccine may not have been completely effective for any variety of reasons. Tough luck for those kids. If the parents want them in school and they don't have any compelling reasons for failure to vaccinate; immune problems, allergies, etc, then vaccinate them or home school for now.
 
Because it won't happen to them, don't you know?

That is why policy is put in place. For whatever reason common sense has been disappearing from the human population.:confused3
 
I agree, either you vaccinate your kids or live with the consequences. This is WHY the whole anti-vac thing is just so wrong. There are kids out there that CAN'T have vaccines for medical reasons and because there are so many people wrongly not vaccinating their kids you lose the heard immunity that used to protect those with medical conditions that can't get vaccinated. If your child isn't vaccinated by choice or medical reason, WHY in the world would you fight the school on their decision to keep kids home during the incubation period--which will be LONGER than 21 days as various kids contract measles.
 

If someone chooses to not vaccinate their kids, that is fine--but they shouldn't be upset if they are quarantined. If anything it is for their safety.
 
Because it won't happen to them, don't you know?

That is why policy is put in place. For whatever reason common sense has been disappearing from the human population.:confused3

It would be nice if they would develop a vaccine to protect common sense.
 
Sorry, you don't vaccinate your kids (whatever the reason, true medical issues or just uncertainty or fear) then you have to live with the consequences, like have to keep your child home for an extended period of time during an outbreak. Yes, it's a shame the child will miss school and special activities, but that's the price for not vaccinating.
 
"But Conley said the length of the quarantine is too long because she believes measles is only infectious for up to 14 days"

And she is basing this on her doctorate in medicine, or something she read of the internet? I'd go with the Health Authority on this one, assuming they have qualified Doctors on staff....
 
"But Conley said the length of the quarantine is too long because she believes measles is only infectious for up to 14 days"

And she is basing this on her doctorate in medicine, or something she read of the internet? I'd go with the Health Authority on this one, assuming they have qualified Doctors on staff....

Indeed. Does she realize how silly she sounds saying her beliefs are more important than something that experienced doctors have been researching for years? I'll be getting flamed for this, but it was an unvaccinated person that probably began this outbreak so I don't feel sorry for anyone having to stay home.
 
"But Conley said the length of the quarantine is too long because she believes measles is only infectious for up to 14 days"

And she is basing this on her doctorate in medicine, or something she read of the internet? I'd go with the Health Authority on this one, assuming they have qualified Doctors on staff....

See, this is where common sense is lacking, sure the AVERAGE incubation period is 14 days, for some it is longer, some shorter then you factor in that not everyone is going to be exposed on the exact same day. Say Suzie is exposed on April first, becomes infectious on April 7th, exposing her brother, Billy on the 7th, who then becomes infectious on the 21st exposing his classmates on that day. You have just gone 21 days-well beyond the 14 this woman is pointing out.
 
my DD is not fully vaccinated - we stopped before the school age shots - and I don't have a problem with this. As long as the school supplied the lessons for her to keep up, I would be more than happy to home school her and take the responsibility to make sure she keeps up!!! Wouldn't be a problem.
 
"But Conley said the length of the quarantine is too long because she believes measles is only infectious for up to 14 days"

And she is basing this on her doctorate in medicine, or something she read of the internet? I'd go with the Health Authority on this one, assuming they have qualified Doctors on staff....

As I remember from my pre-vaccine childhood (when we rode dinosaurs to school :rotfl:) three weeks has been the standard quarantine for measles for many decades. Is one less week quarantine really worth more than your child's life or health?
 
I have my own opinions on this, and I don't want to get flamed today. If it meant my kid not getting the measles-- I'll happily keep her home. Gladly. Just send her work home. :teacher:
 
This is what I think, and I'll be as nice as I can :flower3:

I am a strong believer in vaxing, but I believe in delayed vaxing. My child has developmental delays and we spaced out his vaxes over a time period of 2 1/2 yrs (when they usually get them all by 15 mos). But that is MY OPINION.

I have friends that are strongly against vaxing...some for religious reasons, some for autism/other disorder fears. That is their opinion and prerogative.

My only feeling on this is don't complain if your non vaxed child does get one of these vax-preventable diseases. It is a choice you have to make, but live with as well.

Herd immunity only works well when there is a large percentage of the population that is vaxed. The more non vaxing comes into 'vogue', the more outbreaks there will be. People need to realize that when choosing to vax or non vax their kids.
 
my DD is not fully vaccinated - we stopped before the school age shots - and I don't have a problem with this. As long as the school supplied the lessons for her to keep up, I would be more than happy to home school her and take the responsibility to make sure she keeps up!!! Wouldn't be a problem.

See, in a case like this I would be tempted to tell the parents that your child is not in school due to no fault of the school's therefore the responsibility to get the school work prepared, done and in would be yours, but since the schools can't do that, the teachers will be forced to spend dozens of extra hours, unpaid, to prepare work for kids that should be in school :rolleyes1
 
See, in a case like this I would be tempted to tell the parents that your child is not in school due to no fault of the school's therefore the responsibility to get the school work prepared, done and in would be yours, but since the schools can't do that, the teachers will be forced to spend dozens of extra hours, unpaid, to prepare work for kids that should be in school :rolleyes1

I don't see why it's a problem, she said she'd take the responsibility. Dozens of hours? I don't think so. She, like myself, are responsible parents that are able and willing to take on the responsibility of essentially temporary homeschooling. I hope you don't get this angry when a child is out of school for other medical reasons.
 
See, in a case like this I would be tempted to tell the parents that your child is not in school due to no fault of the school's therefore the responsibility to get the school work prepared, done and in would be yours, but since the schools can't do that, the teachers will be forced to spend dozens of extra hours, unpaid, to prepare work for kids that should be in school :rolleyes1

But--if it is a qualified exemption and the school must legally allow the student in non-vax'd, then if the school prohibits them from coming to school due to an outbreak, then the school would not be complying with law if they denied the opportunity to do the school work at home.

Folks are welcome to petition to have the law changed, but until then--the parent's rights to not vax their child should be honored even if you do not agree with it.
 
I don't see why it's a problem, she said she'd take the responsibility. Dozens of hours? I don't think so. She, like myself, are responsible parents that are able and willing to take on the responsibility of essentially temporary homeschooling. I hope you don't get this angry when a child is out of school for other medical reasons.

Because she is asking for the school to supply the lessons. As far as being responsible parents, that is what we are debating, aren't we?
 






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