Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[Chuck S]

Actually, for everyone in your party to attend EMH they need room individual room IDs, so they would know how many are in your room. In a sense, they do "count your family" at check-in.

BTW, as I said, hotel occupancy, in many states, is more than a "stupid rule" it is a law. Many hotels charge based on double occupancy, with additional charges for 3rd and 4th person in a room. DVC simply bases their occupancy limits a little higher, is spelled out in the contracts we sign, along with Disney's right to change them unilaterally if they so choose. Of course, an "honest person" reads, understands, and follows rules set out in contracts to which they attach their signature.

 

[disneyfan2kids]

... Of course, an "honest person" reads, understands, and follows rules set out in contracts to which they attach their signature.

 

[Dean]

I have not read the whole thread but to add my two cents to the heap:

I don't understand why it's any business of the Hotel's as to whether you have 2, 3, or 4 kids or no kids. You paid for a room, you get a room. If you only have one or two people, do they give you a discount? NO. Now obviously, packing 35 migrant workers in there or something is a different story. It's only a "policy" to make it harder for people to share a room and to force them to get two rooms thus increasing sales revenue. I don't think they have a right to enforce that. It's as ridiculous as saying, "you can only use Disney-purchased soap and shampo in the bathroom."

I also don't have a problem bringing my own snacks to the movies, despite their "policy" of no outside food.

I'm an honest person, but I don't beleive they have a right to charge for a hotel room by the person. It costs them nothing more whether it's one person or 5 people. Ok, a few cents for extra water use perhaps and I'd be happy to pay that.

There is increased wear and tear on the unit leading to extra rehab costs. Increased parking, pool use, competition for other recreation even the buses. Besides just being dishonest if one goes over without sharing that info with the resort/MS.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Maybe you need to read the entire thread, Mtnman44.

 

[Mtnman44]

Sorry, 85 pages... No Way. I just wanted to add an opinion and I think I got the gist of what was basically being discussed. Maybe I'm speaking more in a general sense vs. particulalr situations at DVC. It's just some of these things really bug me. Like when the airline wants to charge you $100 to let someone else use your ticket.

 

[disneybooked]

I have 3 children ( now 5,4 and 1), but what happens when my 1 year old is 4?
Disney should not tell me that I have to rent a 2 bedroom. I would never stick any adults(other than my husband and I) in my room. My kids, I think should be OK.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I have 3 children ( now 5,4 and 1), but what happens when my 1 year old is 4?
Disney should not tell me that I have to rent a 2 bedroom. I would never stick any adults(other than my husband and I) in my room. My kids, I think should be OK.

Sorry, you'll actually need a two bedroom when your 1 yr old turns 3. If you are a member, you need to read up on your membership papers that you signed when you became a member. MS currently allows five people in a one bedroom, but they will not provide any additional bedding or linens. You still only get four bath towels. With all the other rules like transfers that Disney has decided to enforce, they could enforce the 4 in a one bedroom as well.

For those who choose not to read any of the previous 85 pages, there is a lot of talk of fire codes. Occupancy is based on fire codes and the ability for guests to evacuate safely during a fire. Evacuation requires "x" many square feet per person of the exit corridor, stairs and doorways. Too many people and the exits get blocked and people don't survive the fire. You willing to risk that?

 

[Dean]

I have 3 children ( now 5,4 and 1), but what happens when my 1 year old is 4?
Disney should not tell me that I have to rent a 2 bedroom. I would never stick any adults(other than my husband and I) in my room. My kids, I think should be OK.

Sorry, many of us feel differently. There are rules and one either knows or should know the rules prior to buying. Currently DVC will allow a 5th person in the 1 BR and will not count ONE child UNDER 3 in general though it's not 5 plus a child under 3. I realize many people are going to go beyond the rules anyway as there will always be dishonest, selfish people.

 

[disneyfan2kids]

I understand you're obviously passionate about this topic...but that is the 2nd or 3rd time you've insinuated that someone else here is either "dishonest" or a "bum."

What happened to the "no name calling" rule???

To speak of what's ethical, moral, and "right" is hypocritical if you're insulting others in the same sentence.

JMHO.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I understand you're obviously passionate about this topic...but that is the 2nd or 3rd time you've insinuated that someone else here is either "dishonest" or a "bum."

What happened to the "no name calling" rule???

To speak of what's ethical, moral, and "right" is hypocritical if you're insulting others in the same sentence.

JMHO.

There are people who read their literature before they buy and there are those who don't. Yes, it is dishonest to sneak people into the room when occupancy is stated as one less than they have. And it is selfish to think that the rules don't apply to you.

Never saw the word "bum" in his text. Did you????

He's not calling names, just stating facts. I thought your post was a little snide towards Dean. Just who is calling names??? [Oh, darn, now someone will tell me I'm calling names. People who try to follow the rules and ask others to do so just get called all sorts of names like Disney Police]

 

[disneyfan2kids]

I'm not getting dragged into this...hahaha!

I just bought into DVC (yet to stay there) so I don't know how I feel about the occupancy thing yet.

However, I did read through this thread and I stand my ground that some people are just getting downright "mean".

Kinda bums me out...most other threads are just so "disney" and happy!

 

[Deb & Bill]

I'm not getting dragged into this...hahaha!

I just bought into DVC (yet to stay there) so I don't know how I feel about the occupancy thing yet.

However, I did read through this thread and I stand my ground that some people are just getting downright "mean".

Kinda bums me out...most other threads are just so "disney" and happy!

When you sink $50+K in a timeshare and others don't seem to think the rules apply to them, it kind of bums you out (oops, used that word "bum"). If you read through the entire thread, it started over 2 yrs ago and originally was multiple threads that were pieced together. So each time someone posted a thread about "what's so bad about squeezing the entire football team into a studio" ( ), members with a vested interested tried to set them right. At one point, they started adding that thread to this thread. That's why you see so many people posting the same thing over and over. Most recently, they have been locking threads about occupancy after one or two responses and direct the OP of the newest thread over to this thread.

When this thread pops up in my User CP, I have to read the latest whine. Sometimes I post, others I don't. Heck, probably 1/3 of my nearly 9,900 posts might be on this thread alone.

 

[disneyfan2kids]

I have my first DVC trip planned in January. I have 6 plus 2 (under 3) in a studio... am I OK?

(JUST KIDDING...!) I know, I know ... BAD joke. Just a sad attempt at humor to lift the mood!

 

[dianeschlicht]

Many of us feel protective of the occupancy rules, because constant "bending" of those rules leads to extra wear and tear, and ultimately more expense for all of us in the form of higher maintenance fees. I know your "6 plus 2 (under 3) in a studio" was a joke, but you can see from that far out example exactly what many of us are talking about. lots of extra people in a pace not designed for that many causes LOTS of problems with maintenance, not to mention fire code violations. Safetly should be the first consideration. A lot of owners feel like it is like turning DVC into a slum of sorts. Maybe part of the blame has to be on Disney itself for touting DVC as a "money saver".

 

[tjkraz]

I just bought into DVC (yet to stay there) so I don't know how I feel about the occupancy thing yet.

However, I did read through this thread and I stand my ground that some people are just getting downright "mean".

Kinda bums me out...most other threads are just so "disney" and happy!

The problem is that in any large community of people, you have those who feel justified in violating the stated rules in their own ways. The occupancy limits are written in black and white. I don't even see this as being a moral or ethical debate. It is what it is.

Some Disney guests will smoke in a non-smoking room and think nothing of it. Is that OK? How would you like being in the room beneath that smoker and have the scent wafting in your balcony door throughout your trip?

If non-Disney guests walk over to SSR from Downtown Disney and help themselves to the pool, is that OK? It wouldn't bother you to hear the people next to you discussing how great the Hilton is, even though you couldn't get enough chairs around the pool for your family?

And, if you were to discover that the One Bedroom villa above yours had 6 or 7 friends / family members sharing it for the week, would that be OK? You wouldn't mind the additional noise generated by 7 people as opposed to 4?

Rules are designed to give every owner equal footing. It would be nice if everyone could respectfully try to abide by those rules rather than selectively deciding which should or should not apply to them.

 

[allison k]

It is what it is.

Not even going to get in on this topic, but I just wanted to say that the above is one my favorite sayings. When everyone work complains about a change, my attitude is "It is what it is," so make the best of it and do my best to make it work.

Occupancy rule: It is what it is!

 

[Pootle]

I understand you're obviously passionate about this topic...but that is the 2nd or 3rd time you've insinuated that someone else here is either "dishonest" or a "bum."

What happened to the "no name calling" rule???

To speak of what's ethical, moral, and "right" is hypocritical if you're insulting others in the same sentence.

JMHO.

I rarely join in controversial threads but I just had to say that anyone who ignores rules that don't suit them when they signed up to those very same rules is being dishonest. I don't think that's a matter of opinion!

But, the reason I had to post is to let you know that Dean is one of the most helpful and knowledgeable people around here and does not get involved in personal attacks so I rather think your post was over the top.

JMHO

 

[Dean]

I understand you're obviously passionate about this topic...but that is the 2nd or 3rd time you've insinuated that someone else here is either "dishonest" or a "bum."

What happened to the "no name calling" rule???

To speak of what's ethical, moral, and "right" is hypocritical if you're insulting others in the same sentence.

JMHO.

Actually I didn't insult anyone. What I did was speak to an action, not a specific person. If you have 5 and tell them 4, you would be dishonest, period. I'f you find that insulting, so be it.

 

[disneyfan2kids]

(Someone made a comment about "homeless bums" staying in a studio... and you responded with:

I thought some already were, LOL.

That sounds mean to me.

 

[Dean]

(Someone made a comment about "homeless bums" staying in a studio... and you responded with:


That sounds mean to me.

Sorry you took it that way, it was simply a light hearted and related to current and past discussions between the same people. I wouldn't want to insult the homeless person, only the person who secretly goes over the occupancy limit, or who smokes in a NS unit or doesn't include the entire party size on the reservation for the DDP and the like.