Marrieds choosing not to have kids

[LuvsEpcot]

Personally, I believe that if you won't consider selective reduction, you have no business taking Clomid. Same goes with IVF of putting 4-5 embryos in at once. My feeling is that people shouldn't start down this road unless they are prepared to deal with all the difficult decisions down it. In other words, if you're going to play God, play God the whole way through

Amen to that kennancat!

 

[LuvsEpcot]

I, myself, have a huge problem with this. The KIDS didn't choose this. They weren't asked "Hey, is it OK if you become the babysitter for Jr. # 14?" (WHILE they're still children themselves!) There is no way on earth this family can give each child the attention each deserves.

Gross. And her body has to be SHOT.

I agree with you on this, it doesn't seem fair to the children that mom and dad want to continue procreating.

It seems as though they are trying to create their own state

 

[momomonster]

And I agree with you that it's good to see this family putting SOME thought into having their litter and taking responsibility for their schooling (so the community isn't forced to pay for educating their litter family).

 

[LoveStitch626]

Hey guys! :eeping out of lurkdom:: Ok I haven't even been lurking. Just the other day I realized how long it had been since I came to check on yall.

Work is finally picking up for me. Lots of clients booking WDW. Yall will be happy to know I'm doing a series of articles for work on "WDW for couples" (and including singles/people traveling without kids in general). As a matter of fact, I'd love to get yalls input on things. What are some of the things yall love doing most at WDW, places you love to stay or eat, etc etc. Just fill me with as much CF/couples only WDW stuff you can. You can PM them to me if you want. I know I want to wrap up the entire series with Walt's vision & not catering to JUST kids.

Between rescuing a new kitten the day before 4th of July (it was raining SO hard and this poor little guy was sitting in a puddle!!), the new Potter movie & book coming out, friends coming in from out of town slowly moving all their stuff down (they're moving in with us for a few months until they get jobs and get on their feet), friend drama ( ), and everything else I haven't had a chance to get on here. Been doing Weight Watchers so I've been super grouchy lol. Oh btw, does anyone play VMK?

Kirklandtutu, are you a dance teacher? I'm assuming so since I saw all the ballet shoes in the pic you posted.

Yall have to see this video (especially Kirkland.. if you're a dance teacher you can really appreciate this one!). I'm posting the ORIGINAL and then the dubbed over. Just watch maybe 30-60 seconds of the original. Make sure your sound is up.

Original:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PFhXyns6vzE

The REALLY REALLY cool one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIGbhPLZmjY

 

[maddhatir]

I, myself, have a huge problem with this. The KIDS didn't choose this. They weren't asked "Hey, is it OK if you become the babysitter for Jr. # 14?" (WHILE they're still children themselves!) There is no way on earth this family can give each child the attention each deserves.

Gross. And her body has to be SHOT.

You know Momo! I was going to post the exact same thing a few posts back! The way I was trying to say it did not sound right though.

But ITA! When you see those big families- all the children have, what seems to be, adult responsibilities. I am all for teaching your children to be responsible, but to me it looks like they are having kids, just to ....take care of all of the kids. They seem like little housekeepers and little mommies.

I am sure the kids do not enjoy having to take care of a younger child- they want to go out and play and be a kid- not have to be little adults

They probably want to tell mom- to keep those legs shut!

 

[maddhatir]

Yall have to see this video (especially Kirkland.. if you're a dance teacher you can really appreciate this one!). I'm posting the ORIGINAL and then the dubbed over. Just watch maybe 30-60 seconds of the original. Make sure your sound is up.

Original:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PFhXyns6vzE

The REALLY REALLY cool one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIGbhPLZmjY

Heyyyy you! Glad to see you popped in! -- oooooo, people living with you. Good luck! Make sure you keep us updated- we are hear to listen to your drama

About the videos- who are these women?? I liked the first one, it reminded me of something from Austin Powers- or if I hear that kind of music- I always have to do a stupid 60's move to it

But the 2nd one-- I couldn't listen to the music for more than 30 seconds- NOT a fan. The dancing was pretty cool though.

Wow- I am going to have to think of some nice "couple things" DH and I do while in Disney for you.

You know, I MIGHT be going to Disney with SIL, BIL and their 2 kids the day after Thanksgiving- DH has come to hate Disney! So I am on my own for a while until he snaps out of it! But you know what-- I am not really excited to go. I LOVE Disney- but I REALLY love Disney as a "couple" I feel I can relax and enjoy it. So I MAY skip out on the trip. I have a room booked for myself- but I can cancel that without a problem. I just know if I book air- that's it- I am committed- so I continue to put it off

And good for you, rescuing a kitty! Are you going to keep him!?

 

[LoveStitch626]

Heyyyy you! Glad to see you popped in! -- oooooo, people living with you. Good luck! Make sure you keep us updated- we are hear to listen to your drama

About the videos- who are these women?? I liked the first one, it reminded me of something from Austin Powers- or if I hear that kind of music- I always have to do a stupid 60's move to it

But the 2nd one-- I couldn't listen to the music for more than 30 seconds- NOT a fan. The dancing was pretty cool though.

Wow- I am going to have to think of some nice "couple things" DH and I do while in Disney for you.

You know, I MIGHT be going to Disney with SIL, BIL and their 2 kids the day after Thanksgiving- DH has come to hate Disney! So I am on my own for a while until he snaps out of it! But you know what-- I am not really excited to go. I LOVE Disney- but I REALLY love Disney as a "couple" I feel I can relax and enjoy it. So I MAY skip out on the trip. I have a room booked for myself- but I can cancel that without a problem. I just know if I book air- that's it- I am committed- so I continue to put it off

And good for you, rescuing a kitty! Are you going to keep him!?

We've lived with 2 friends before. 1 of those friends is one half of the couple moving in again. No biggie. We've done it before and we get along well. They're like my kiddos.

The redheaded woman in the video is Gwen Verdon. Famous dancer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Verdon

The dance routine is a Fosse routine that I **believe** was done on the Sullivan show in the 60s? LOL I'm not a fan of rap either, but I thought it was amazing how well the song went w/ the routine. You can see from the first video that nothing was altered or changed really. It just blows my mind how a completely different dance routine from 40 years ago can go SO WELL with a rap song from now. With the song, lol the dance is pretty cool.

LOL You're gonna have to straighten dh up with the disney hating!! May the Depp be with you lol

 

[Shyvioletisme]

Hi! Hope you guys don't mind me joining your thread I just came across it. DH and I have been married almost 2 years and will not be having children. Neither of us like children(heck, I didn't like kids when I was a kid...lol!), so it's never been an issue. We just always discussed that we didn't ever want to force kids onto our selves just because that's what everyone expects of you. That is the selfish thing in my opinion. We've already gotten so many questions, always follows the how long have you been married and then straight into when are you having kids. I just let it roll off me. I have a cat who is my "baby." I've had cats my whole life and LOVE them to death and they are plenty for me. Anyway, just glad I found some other people who are no children people! Now, I'm gonna keep reading through the thread!!!

 

[maddhatir]

Neither of us like children(heck, I didn't like kids when I was a kid...lol!), so it's never been an issue.

Welcome Tiffany! Stick around!

Your Kitty is adorable! (assuming that's your kitty in your avatar! )

Speaking of being a kid- when I make mention to my mother I do not like kids- she ALWAYS says "you were a kid once!" My reply after 20+ years (you think she would stop with the same comment by now ) It was not MY choice to be brought into this world- that was YOUR choice. So- really, me being a kid once- has NOTHING at all to do with me not liking other people's kids

She NEVER harassed me about having kids- never. She never asked when or why.....She just KNEW DH and I never wanted kids- and she respects that.

ETA- and OMG- how can you stand being a teacher if you do not like kids??????

 

[Shyvioletisme]

Welcome Tiffany! Stick around!

Your Kitty is adorable! (assuming that's your kitty in your avatar! )

Speaking of being a kid- when I make mention to my mother I do not like kids- she ALWAYS says "you were a kid once!" My reply after 20+ years (you think she would stop with the same comment by now ) It was not MY choice to be brought into this world- that was YOUR choice. So- really, me being a kid once- has NOTHING at all to do with me not liking other people's kids

She NEVER harassed me about having kids- never. She never asked when or why.....She just KNEW DH and I never wanted kids- and she respects that.

ETA- and OMG- how can you stand being a teacher if you do not like kids??????

yes that is my Kitty, Lestat! thanks!!

my mom doesn't harass me and DH either, she knew how little interaction I wanted with kids when I was little and understands... DH's parents on the otherhand, say they understand But we both know they want us to have kids...it's not like they don't have grandchildren, they do (DH's bro has 2 kids and his sis has 1) I feel like they should be blessed that they they already have 3 grandkids and not worry about why we won't have one..At least they don't insist about kids too much. I can usually just ignore it. lol
However, much as I don't like kids, they sure like me...lol. Just the way it is I guess.

 

[KirklandTutu]

Oh yes, I do love that video. I've seen it before and never get tired of it.

Someone asked how you can be a teacher and not like children? It's hard to explain, but it's how I am. I think it has to do with being able to send them home at the end of the day while I go home for a glass of wine.


And my favorite thing to do at Disney as a couple without children? Go to Epcot, get a drink, sit down where you have a clear view of a public pathway, and watch all the people WITH kids. Truly, truly entertaining.


Funny story, I was at California Adventure last year, walking around with a glass of wine. Some woman with three kids under the age of 7 came up to me with this totally frazzled look on her face, demanding to know where I got the drink. I became her hero when I told her of the multiple places that one could gain such a thing.

 

[Hixski]

Hey guys! :eeping out of lurkdom:: Ok I haven't even been lurking. Just the other day I realized how long it had been since I came to check on yall.

Work is finally picking up for me. Lots of clients booking WDW. Yall will be happy to know I'm doing a series of articles for work on "WDW for couples" (and including singles/people traveling without kids in general). As a matter of fact, I'd love to get yalls input on things. What are some of the things yall love doing most at WDW, places you love to stay or eat, etc etc. Just fill me with as much CF/couples only WDW stuff you can. You can PM them to me if you want. I know I want to wrap up the entire series with Walt's vision & not catering to JUST kids.

Between rescuing a new kitten the day before 4th of July (it was raining SO hard and this poor little guy was sitting in a puddle!!), the new Potter movie & book coming out, friends coming in from out of town slowly moving all their stuff down (they're moving in with us for a few months until they get jobs and get on their feet), friend drama ( ), and everything else I haven't had a chance to get on here. Been doing Weight Watchers so I've been super grouchy lol. Oh btw, does anyone play VMK?

Kirklandtutu, are you a dance teacher? I'm assuming so since I saw all the ballet shoes in the pic you posted.

Yall have to see this video (especially Kirkland.. if you're a dance teacher you can really appreciate this one!). I'm posting the ORIGINAL and then the dubbed over. Just watch maybe 30-60 seconds of the original. Make sure your sound is up.

Original:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PFhXyns6vzE

The REALLY REALLY cool one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIGbhPLZmjY

I am trying to think of the adult things DH and I do at Disney. We don't try to do romantic dinners or anything. I guess we just go with the flow. We make our ADRs but the rest of the time we just decide what park we want to do for the day.

We like to hang out in Epcot.
Grab a beer in England and a margarita in Mexico.
People watch from the bar in Africa at AK.
Ride Everest.
Grab a turkey leg to split in MGM.
Ride RNR coaster 3 or 4 times in a row.
Same thing for TofT.
Pop over to MK and do the circuit.
Head to the Poly or Contemporary and have a drink or 2 in the afternoon.

We just enjoy our time there. It is funny to watch families with kids having meltdowns with each other. It makes you think how easy it is for us.

yes that is my Kitty, Lestat! thanks!!

my mom doesn't harass me and DH either, she knew how little interaction I wanted with kids when I was little and understands... DH's parents on the otherhand, say they understand But we both know they want us to have kids...it's not like they don't have grandchildren, they do (DH's bro has 2 kids and his sis has 1) I feel like they should be blessed that they they already have 3 grandkids and not worry about why we won't have one..At least they don't insist about kids too much. I can usually just ignore it. lol
However, much as I don't like kids, they sure like me...lol. Just the way it is I guess.

You have a vampire kitty!!! I love it! Welcome to our thread. We all do understand one another on here.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I, myself, have a huge problem with this. The KIDS didn't choose this. They weren't asked "Hey, is it OK if you become the babysitter for Jr. # 14?" (WHILE they're still children themselves!) There is no way on earth this family can give each child the attention each deserves.

Gross. And her body has to be SHOT.

Agreed-I'm surprised her uterus doesn't fall out.(and her Hoo Hoo has got to be the size of the Grand Canyon. Kegels only take you so far! ) Personally, I'd rather have both eyes gouged out than give birth to 18 kids(yuck) but I am happy at least that they are not subsidized by taxpayer money. I think this couple needs a hobby besides baby-making, but that's my humble opinion.

 

[Mrs.Reese]

Is it even safe for her to be pregnant anymore?? My word hasn't the woman been introduced the pill. I do have to wonder what is going to happen when all of those kids grow-up?

Oh it's extremely easy to work with kids and not have any. Believe me I love children but I love giving them back more.

 

[Liisa]

yes that is my Kitty, Lestat! thanks!!

Welcome!!!! Definitely stick around. This is where all the cool people hang out! And I LOVE your kitty's name. Very original. DH and I rescued our cat and she came with the name Sheba... ho hum. But then my mom had to rescue Sheba away from our house. My 10 month old monster of a puppy was pouncing on her. Ugh! Kids!

DH has come to hate Disney! So I am on my own for a while until he snaps out of it!

Madd... EEK! Say it isn't so! Blasphemy!!!! Actually, DH and I have several WDW trips coming up in the near future (Sept, Dec and January). But the trip we are totally excited for is the May trip to Mexico (decided on and booked the Iberostar Grand Hotel Paraiso!) WooHoo - bring on the sexy, fruity drinks on the beach!!!

As a matter of fact, I'd love to get yalls input on things. What are some of the things yall love doing most at WDW, places you love to stay or eat, etc etc.

Good luck with the weight watchers. Dieting always makes me cranky!!! That is why I started running, now I don't feel so guilty when I have a cookie...and a brownie... and a few nibbles of cake.... and some ice cream... Hmmmm, I've definitely got sugar issues!

As for my two cents for couple things to do... DH and I just love being able to wander the parks freely with no little ones in tow. We tour the parks in the morning, head back to the hotel for a swim break and shower and then back out for the evening. Soooo relaxing. Plus, we can head over to the Adventurer's Club at night and stay as long as we want. We've also done the romantic dinners at Cali Grill and Bistro de Paris. We love skipping lunch and sampling food and drinks around world showcase (which I imagine would be tougher with kids that need to stay on schedule and may not like some of the food offerings around world showcase.

We just enjoy our time there. It is funny to watch families with kids having meltdowns with each other. It makes you think how easy it is for us.

Hixski, we are with you. I really feel bad for those parents and I know it is tough... but those are the moments that DH and I smile at each other and feel happy that our lives are so peaceful.

 

[LoveStitch626]

and her Hoo Hoo has got to be the size of the Grand Canyon. Kegels only take you so far!

LMAO That's got to be the best line ever!!!!!!!

 

[maddhatir]

Funny story, I was at California Adventure last year, walking around with a glass of wine. Some woman with three kids under the age of 7 came up to me with this totally frazzled look on her face, demanding to know where I got the drink. I became her hero when I told her of the multiple places that one could gain such a thing.

Sounds like me the first time DH and I took our neice to Disney- she was 4 at the time. We were rushing to get to the princess breakfast in Norway b/c we were late- After rushing around all morning- running through EPCOT to get there in time, I am sure there was a tantrum thrown in there somewhere!.........We finally were seated and the first thing out of my mouth to our adorable waiter was........MIMOSA.........NOW....PLEASE!

 

[maddhatir]

Hixski, we are with you. I really feel bad for those parents and I know it is tough... but those are the moments that DH and I smile at each other and feel happy that our lives are so peaceful.

I am with Hix and Liisa also!

~~We love just sitting somewhere, drink in hand, relaxing and enjoying each other, ....... and watching the poor parents ........and to quote DH........."better them than us".........my answer......"amen"

Thinking about it- I have so many, and some of them are the littlest things, but just so nice. I hope you all do not mind if I just post them all here, I think this is fun reading our favorite CF things to do!

DTD/PI

~~Adventurers Club is a MUST!
~~Check the House of Blues website before you leave for Disney. They always have some really good bands playing. Just for a little something different to do.
~~Love to stroll through DTD, again, drinks in hand from the little bar down at the dock. DH sometimes just sits on a bench relaxing and people watching while I shop alittle. Every now and then I have to run out of the store just to see him and run back into a few more

MK

~~Opening the MK and when all the parents are RUNNING to get their little ones to Dumbo or wake up Tink- we stop at the Main Street Bakery, grab something sinfully sweet and yummy with some coffee, take our yummies and sit outside and enjoy the morning peace and quiet of Main Street-- of course the ducks will see to it that you get no peace!
~~ taking a stroll through the rose garden and sitting in the gazebo
~~ sitting on the rocking chairs in Liberty Square
~~ taking a leisurely ride on the "wedway people mover"
~~ of course, there is always a challenge between us on Buzz Lightyear!
~~ watching WISHES over by It's a Small World almost completely alone. and after the fireworks take the long way back to Main Street through LS and Adventureland......and of course, to top the evening off, stopping at Casey's Corner for some fries to munch on while watching all the people make a mad RUSH to the exit.....why??!

EPCOT

~~The ENTIRE World Showcase is just so nice to stroll though. This is actually DH's favorite park. Stroll, drink, relax and people watch, aaaaand repeat!
~~take a nice walk over to the Boardwalk or the Beach and Yacht Club from EPCOT at night. Very nice.

MGM

~~ mmmmm- not much at MGM that I care for as just a couple, of course ToT is a BLAST! I like MGM at night or about an hour before closing- less people and more relaxing. If you go for the Osborne lights, it is great to walk thought the streets while it is snowing!
~~ It used to be nice when the Brown Derby was not PACKED all of the time b/c of the dining plan- it was a nice place to relax and have lunch.......for (1) TS credit. Yes, I remember those days...do you?

AK

~~Walking through Pangani Forest trail, we just like to find all of the "nooks and crannies" hiding in the park.

Sorry so long!

 

[Hixski]

Did anyone notice that there seems be to a lot of drinking at WDW by us CF folks???

MADD: I was just over on a remodeling thread I subscribe too. I just remembered you are adding on an addition. You might want to check this out: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1379800

 

[luvthemouse71]

Is it even safe for her to be pregnant anymore?? My word hasn't the woman been introduced the pill. I do have to wonder what is going to happen when all of those kids grow-up?

Oh it's extremely easy to work with kids and not have any. Believe me I love children but I love giving them back more.

Well, women who have had a few kids are at risk after giving birth for post-partum hemmorrhage(the uterus can take longer to "clamp down" after the birth process and that's where the hemmorrhage can occur). I also doubt she's interested in the pill-I think they are fundamentalist Christians. If I were one of the older kids, I'd be slipping them to her and telling her they're multivitamins or something.