Marathon Weekend 2017!

[Z-Knight]

I've got an 18 mile run coming up next weekend. My longest so far has been 16, and I am thinking of trying out some pain relief. (I haven't ever yet, but plan to during the marathon probably)

What type painkillers do you recommend? Do you take before the race? During?

Thanks!

DO.NOT.TAKE.A.NSAID (i.e. Advil, etc). Only take something like Goodsense/Tylenol.

Let me be crystal clear here - ADVIL (and other NSAIDs) could KILL you if you take it while running or before running - they adversely will affect your kidneys. I am not even joking here. NSAIDs can be very harmful and you should take them ONLY after you've run, and AFTER you've had at least one pee...not before. I would avoid them in general until the next day to be safe or at least 6 hours.

 

[jeremy1002]

DO.NOT.TAKE.A.NSAID (i.e. Advil, etc). Only take something like Goodsense/Tylenol.

Let me be crystal clear here - ADVIL (and other NSAIDs) could KILL you if you take it while running or before running - they adversely will affect your kidneys. I am not even joking here. NSAIDs can be very harmful and you should take them ONLY after you've run, and AFTER you've had at least one pee...not before. I would avoid them in general until the next day to be safe or at least 6 hours.

Thanks!!! Tylenol sounds good.

 

[2girlsR2good]

I am thankful that I have done so much more than I thought I could. I started training (Galloway, yup, run/walk) a year ago thinking that maybe I'd try the half. Today I went for 23 miles. And I didn't need a nap afterwards--I went to the grocery store and out to dinner.

I am thankful that Disney scheduled this marathon on my birthday and that my family all said "yes" to gathering there.

Finally, I am thankful that the marathon isn't tomorrow--because I'm not ready yet! I would have ended up swept today .

 

[camaker]

I've got an 18 mile run coming up next weekend. My longest so far has been 16, and I am thinking of trying out some pain relief. (I haven't ever yet, but plan to during the marathon probably)

What type painkillers do you recommend? Do you take before the race? During?

Thanks!

Before deciding on taking painkillers before or during running, I suggest you spend some time reading through some of the articles online and decide whether it will even be beneficial for you. There is a fair amount of information out there that says that prophylactic use of painkillers can actually lead to an increase in inflammation and an increase in perceived effort rather than the desired decrease.

All use of painkillers comes with risk. Ibuprofen generally leads to increased risk of kidney issues and hyponatremia while acetaminophen comes with attendant risks to the liver. As with any situation like this, nothing is guaranteed, either good or bad. The risks are increased probabilities of adverse conditions occurring and you have to decide whether the benefits outweigh the increased risks for you.

Personally, I choose to use painkillers to treat aches, pains and injuries post-activity. I've chosen this route for two main reasons. First, it avoids the increased risks present during activity when the body is already under stress and may be more susceptible to adverse side effects. Second, while I don't like it any more than anyone else, I consider pain to be a friend during activity. Pain gives you important feedback on what is going on in your body. Knowing your body; what pains are natural and normal for an activity for you are critical to determining onset of injury as early as possible. Painkillers suppress and mute that feedback.

Good luck with determining what path is right for you.

 

[UNCBear24]

I am thankful that on Sunday January 8th, 2017 will be completion of my 6th marathon (2nd Dopey). That will be 5 years to the day after finishing my "one & only" marathon. I'm also thankful that at 55, I've been virtually injury free the last 6 years. And finally, I'm thankful RunDisney allows me to enjoy two of my favorite things together with others who enjoy them too!

 

[Baloo in MI]

I am thankful for:

- Being able to pursue this hobby/obsession called running.
- All the things I have learned from this and other runDisney threads; I am a better runner for it.
- I am thankful that we have come up with the money to pay for my family to come to WDW Marathon Weekend this year. It will be a Christmas present/surprise for our girls, they think I am going solo.
- Lastly I am thankful for the Premium Mickey Bars that have my name on them and the celebratory meal at O'Hana where I will attempt to eat my weight in steak, shrimp and chicken (post marathon)!

 

[Ariel484]

I'm thankful...

- for my husband and pur little dog
- for my family...inlaws included
- that I can run (I've said that many times here on the DIS but it's true)
- for runDisney, because without Disney races I don't think I would have gone beyond a 10K and probably would not still be running 7-8 years after I started
- that the Florida ToT is NOT getting the Guardians overlay... DON'T CHANGE TOWER OF TERROR, DISNEY!!

 

[Wendy98]

I am thankful for so much, but will try to narrow it down.

--Very thankful for my supportive husband who puts up with this very time consuming hobby and especially his logistical skills when I have to travel for races.
--Very thankful to my 3 kids who recognize the importance of running and being active and know how important it is to mommy.
--Thankful to my aging body which continues to keep on truckin' despite the constant beat downs I dish out. I am over 40 and still landed a half marathon PR, 5k, and marathon PR this year.

 

[OldSlowGoofyGuy]

Second, while I don't like it any more than anyone else, I consider pain to be a friend during activity. Pain gives you important feedback on what is going on in your body. Knowing your body; what pains are natural and normal for an activity for you are critical to determining onset of injury as early as possible. Painkillers suppress and mute that feedback.

+1

I got in the habit of popping a few Advils after every long run. Somewhere along the way, I decided that even pain after the run is your friend. Generally, you shouldn't be sore, even after your long run. If you are, that may be an indication that either you went too fast or your overall mileage isn't enough to support your long run.

Good luck making a wise decision.

 

[CheapRunnerMike]

I'm thankful for:
- Cava del Tequila and their rehydration and salt replenishment offerings
- All ten of my toenails still holding on
- Red sparkle skirts, which really are the key to success no matter what some others (cough @CheapRunnerMike cough) might say
- Beer, nature's perfect recovery drink

For the record, I have nothing against red Sparkle skirts...I just prefer them to be of the red with polka dots variety With you on all the other excellent points as well (note the salt replenishment going on below if you can pry your eyes away from the Sparkle)

 

[croach]

Thankful for:

Mike posting that picture because it was good for a smile - look great Mike
Real bathrooms to stop at during races at the Disney parks - gotta know where they are
Even though the gains are getting smaller, the ability to still get a little better at running while continuing to enjoy it and have fun
And I'd be really thankful if someone could explain what the heck is happening on Westworld

 

[BuckeyeBama]

+1

I got in the habit of popping a few Advils after every long run. Somewhere along the way, I decided that even pain after the run is your friend. Generally, you shouldn't be sore, even after your long run. If you are, that may be an indication that either you went too fast or your overall mileage isn't enough to support your long run.

Good luck making a wise decision.

I also used to take Advil or Motrin after really long, hard runs to help with the pain - a carryover from the Army, where they fed us Motrin like M&Ms. I also have learned to just accept the soreness as part of the deal. I now only take pain relievers if my legs are bothering me enough to effect my sleep, and this only happens a few times/year for me - generally after PR attempt races.

As for not experiencing pain - I kinda disagree since we are all amateur runners and are working to improve significantly. Discomfort is a part of the deal when you are pushing your body farther and faster than it has gone in a particular training cycle. Not horrible pain, but certainly soreness. I will be running 4, 7, 11 & 22 miles on consecutive days later this week in my preparation for Dopey. My weekly mileage is over 50, so my base is more than high enough to handle this, but I expect to be sore after my 22 miler. I am cool with that, and it will help me when my runs peak at 4, 7, 12 & 24 two weeks later.

So, in my opinion, we should expect soreness when we are pushing ourselves. It isn't a sign that we are doing something wrong. It is a sign that we are getting stronger.

 

[baxter24]

Thankful for a husband and parents that watch my kids so I can run races and train for them, this community (you guys get it this whole running and Disney thing), and Netflix (a girl has got to watch something while she runs on the treadmill)!

 

[jeremy1002]

I really appreciate all the advice on painkillers. I think I will hold off on trying any with my 18 mile run this weekend.

 

[JeffW]

Others have given you good advice on what not to take. My personal pain reliever is a post-run ice bath, which is so excruciating that no pain compares afterward In all seriousness, any run 18 miles or longer, I take a 10-15 minute ice bath. Not for everyone, but has worked great for me for years.

I've got an 18 mile run coming up next weekend. My longest so far has been 16, and I am thinking of trying out some pain relief. (I haven't ever yet, but plan to during the marathon probably)

What type painkillers do you recommend? Do you take before the race? During?

Thanks!

 

[PrincessV]

With no POT at Wine and Dine I was positioned in Corral H even though I'm about a 9:00/mi pace. I missed the cutoff by a couple of weeks on a 10-mile race. In Houston we don't have to many long races over the summer. I was solo so by blind luck of heading to the bag check/porta potty as soon as getting off the bus I was in the corral about 20 minutes before start ready to go and got fairly close to the front.

Within 50 yards of the starting line I was in the clear with nothing in front of me and right on my pace....then it happened. I just hit a wall of humanity before even getting to mile 1, people 5-6 wide already WALKING. I think Galloway's run walk method is fantastic, I started training with that and just got my pace too fast to stay with it so I am for it. I'm not sure what plan has you walking at less than a mile though.

Plus, if you want to walk that early, don't stand 5-6 wide. I think if you plan to walk THAT MUCH, you should start in the back. I feel like that people run a 5k to get as far up as possible to walk an even slower pace then 16:00/mi so as to not get swept. Apologies if this was you, just a little frustrating. I really wanted to get under 2 hours for my first half marathon and I ran 2:03 because my first few miles were weaving and dodging people with a pace over 9:40. It took till mile 7 to get on a decent pace. I was quite proud of running 9:47 on my first mile and 8:13 on my last and I do wonder if the slower pace helped me achieve that but I was disappointed to encounter walls of walkers so early and so many not standing to the right.

Sorry for venting, but this group is probably the only people that can understand that frustration.

I don't mean to jump on this, so forgive me if it comes off that way... as others have mentioned, many of us who do walk/run intervals do them from the start, and lots of us use very short intervals. Jeff Galloway's been doing intervals as short as 20 seconds lately and he BQs! So the mere fact that someone is walking at any point - even from the start - has nothing at all to do with their speed/pace. And as was also mentioned, the best way to be able to run your own pace is to submit PoT to be corralled properly. rD is very clear on this. I happen to walk a few minutes at the start of a race for a number of reasons, none of which have to do with my ability to run-walk the PoT pace and subsequent corral I earned. People walking OR running 5-6 abreast is a problem, but it's always been a problem and isn't likely to change, so we rD veterans just deal with it. I just don't let that stuff get to me anymore - I have a much more pleasant experience that way!

I also wanted to add, because I see this a lot, runDisney does not say to walk on the right for their races. They say "to the side" because they push the Galloway run/walk method heavily so simply there is not enough room for every walker to go right. Runners are supposed to use the center. But people are all working under different instructions and it just turns into a jumbled mess every time

^THIS!!! This drives me batty, when we hear the inevitable jerk barreling through a crowd, yelling "walkers to the RIGHT!" Nowhere does it say "walkers stay to the right" and it's incredibly unsafe for someone to be zig-zagging back and fort every 30 seconds to run on the left, walk on the right.

In the spirit of Turkey Day, thankfulness and all that jazz, this week's Sundays are for Disney question is about what we're thankful for. But, since this is the DisBoards and we're all presumably thankful for our friends, family, jobs, etc., I want to know what Disney- and running-related things you are thankful for. Be as serious or as silly as you want and list as many as you want.

I am thankful for:

Really , just that I CAN - that I can run at all, and that (for now) I can run at Disney!

 

[2girlsR2good]

My personal pain reliever is a post-run ice bath, which is so excruciating that no pain compares afterward In all seriousness, any run 18 miles or longer, I take a 10-15 minute ice bath. Not for everyone, but has worked great for me for years.

Me too--and I hate it, but it works. I sit in the empty tub first and then run the water in with ice blocks positioned to not touch me in any way. These things help: Have on a cozy hat and warm top and drink hot chocolate or coffee throughout! The one long run I had to skip this convinced me it's essential!

 

[ZellyB]

I'm thankful for runDisney races as I honestly don't think I would have ever tried to do a marathon if I hadn't learned that there was one in Disney. I'm thankful that marathon weekend is in January as well since it gives me the perfect excuse to escape the cold Midwest right in the middle of winter. YAY!

 

[AThrillingChase]

^THIS!!! This drives me batty, when we hear the inevitable jerk barreling through a crowd, yelling "walkers to the RIGHT!" Nowhere does it say "walkers stay to the right" and it's incredibly unsafe for someone to be zig-zagging back and fort every 30 seconds to run on the left, walk on the right.

Ugh. The great wine and dine half of a half boardwalk path incident of 2015. I still wish I could find the woman that finally stood up for everyone and just shouted back "NO, I WON'T." After hearing someone legit screaming "walkers on the right" for 3/4 of a mile. Never mind that it was so crowded we could barely muster a walking pace.

Also, the bobbing in and out ended up with me running an extra .7 miles at wine and dine 2016. And I only take a walk break every half mile for maybe 45 seconds! I can't imagine how hard it is with shorter intervals. I'd end up running 2 extra miles lol.

In other news, I am waiting to hear back from my travel agent. She has bibs so it is just a question of hotel. But the disney website has been a mess the last day or 2. It is currently showing me that not one room is available. Not even for one night. That seems a bit far fetched and I'm assuming it's tech issues. But I will probably have a nightmare tonight about sleeping on a boardwalk bench anyways.

 

[WhereInFlorida]

Jeff Galloway's been doing intervals as short as 20 seconds lately and he BQs! So the mere fact that someone is walking at any point - even from the start - has nothing at all to do with their speed/pace.

In fairness to others, he is 71 years old so his BQ qualifying time is considerably slower than most everyone else and he did not come close to qualifying at last years marathon. Not sure that I could come up with a run/walk interval to get me under 3:20.

It is just consideration of others whether it is walking 3 or more abreast, cutting in front of others, yelling at other runners, jumping corrals, blowing snot rockets, throwing cups of gatorade, etc. It is just a few, but a few out of 20,000 makes for more than for local races.