Mandatory Room Inspections

[Kingkonig]

Yes. This policy is more about enhancing the perception of "safety" without materially impacting the reality of safety.

I would much rather have the resorts focus their energies on getting rooms cleaned and ready by the 4:00 PM check-in instead of having housekeepers perform security sweeps and emptying trash cans in already occupied rooms. Or, at least do the security checks AFTER all of the rooms needing to be turned are ready.

I do agree that is what I would prefer, but overall security theater only works if it is a slight inconvenience. It is designed to be slightly obtrusive where you (not you specifically, “you” the general consumer/participant) are able to believe that they could catch somebody acting in bad faith. If they added a list of times they would be willing to do it (or only at the end of the day after they’ve gotten all rooms ready), then people know that those acting with malicious intent have X amount of time to prepare before getting caught.

 

[Moonspinner]

Yes. This policy is more about enhancing the perception of "safety" without materially impacting the reality of safety.

I would much rather have the resorts focus their energies on getting rooms cleaned and ready by the 4:00 PM check-in instead of having housekeepers perform security sweeps and emptying trash cans in already occupied rooms. Or, at least do the security checks AFTER all of the rooms needing to be turned are ready.

Great point. I hadn’t even thought about the impact on turning over rooms. To me that is the strongest argument yet against this policy.

We are generally so on the go that the policy doesn’t impact us much, but I do think it is inappropriate for them to enter rooms arbitrarily at all hours. It does feel unnecessarily invasive.

 

[J-Dog]

Any safeguard is better than none.

Like I said previously in this thread, I'm not for or against this policy, but this is a scary comment, IMO.

 

[ParrotBill]

Oh goodness, it's not "all hours" or arbitrary. It's during the day, as housekeeping makes their rounds and incorporated into that with trash empty.

it's not "looking for guns" it's looking to see the room looks normal and does not stick out as weird like piles of crates or the room is trashed. Or somebody lying dead or incapacitated. They cannot profile people or look at your schedule to determine if or when to do the check. That is senseless overwork and inappropriate. It serves many purposes - security theater, yes, shows but shows they are serious about preventing tragedies. It reduces risk and insurance rates. It might save a life.

Use your door latches. If you require peace and quiet at a certain time call and arrange it.

 

[Moonspinner]

Like I said previously in this thread, I'm not for or against this policy, but this is a scary comment, IMO.

I agree, scary, very Orwellian comment.

 

[LRdismom]

I feel bad for any honeymooners....

 

[davidhr]

While this doesn’t bother me at all, I do agree that it isn’t very effective.

It’s the same as the “safety” of Disney springs, when a significant amount of people there don’t have to go through security to get in.

 

[KrzyAsian]

You may not realize how crass that sounds, especially for people who were there. We landed about 8 hours after the shooting.

My apologies if my statement sounded crass, but it's the harsh reality. As someone who's survived a school shooting, I would much rather go through a small inconvenience than ever be put in a situation like that ever again. I know the room check is not really going to do much in preventing such an attack, but even if the procedure prevents ONE person from re-thinking their choices, I'm okay with it.

The bigger issue is the fact that we even have to implement something like this due to America's gun policies (or lack thereof), but that's a discussion for a different thread.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

My apologies if my statement sounded crass, but it's the harsh reality. As someone who's survived a school shooting, I would much rather go through a small inconvenience than ever be put in a situation like that ever again. I know the room check is not really going to do much in preventing such an attack, but even if the procedure prevents ONE person from re-thinking their choices, I'm okay with it.

The bigger issue is the fact that we even have to implement something like this due to America's gun policies (or lack thereof), but that's a discussion for a different thread.

I think the point I was getting at is your cause and effect here. It's largely been stated with the attack that checks such as Disney ones would not have prevented it so while I can understand (and don't necessarily on the very basis of it disagree) your more understanding regarding the inconvenience that it may cause that is wholly a different conversation (one that usually happens quite frequently on the DIS) than you'd rather have the checks than be part of a shooting. Most especially as it should be thought does this inconvenience serve the primary goal of which we are not privy to knowing just what their primary goal is. And while I can also understand your thought process about saying "prevent just one person" that also can lead to logical fallacies in which case we attempt to implement a measure or procedure without consideration to the whole picture.

In terms of the security checks Disney is the only one that comes up on discussions as having the consistent checks and done the way they do (as in the most absurd way to the general public who shouldn't have to worry about being in a state of undress in their own hotel room to name one). Vegas largely abandoned them shortly after implementing them, other companies over the years also ebbed back especially when they went away from daily housekeeping. Disney as we all have come to understand does it for whatever reasons they may think but as I have come to understand I cannot attribute it any longer to the Mandalay shooting, that ship sailed years back. Human trafficking has been used as a reason as well and at this time I cannot provide good arguments against that being part of their reasoning. I'm sure there is a lot more going on in Disney's head to maintain doing this when the rest of the hotel companies long ago abandoned a formal process. Most posters go straight to "reserve the right to" which we all understand but is a far cry from a consistent formal procedure carried out across the various properties a company owns.

Your gun comment belongs on the controversial board (a subforum to the community board).

 

[KrzyAsian]

In terms of the security checks Disney is the only one that comes up on discussions as having the consistent checks and done the way they do (as in the most absurd way to the general public who shouldn't have to worry about being in a state of undress in their own hotel room to name one).

I guess I've personally never gone through a negative experience like that so I'm less inclined to be upset about the policy, but I may suggest that you may be only seeing Disney discussed because this is a Disney forum? People complain about it all the time over in various travel subreddits.

Your gun comment belongs on the controversial board (a subforum to the community board).

And no, I stand by what I said. The reason these procedures were introduced was due to a SHOOTING. With 24 legally purchased weapons of mass destruction and 1000+ rounds of ammunition. America's gun policies are the reason we have mandatory room checks, which is what this thread is about.

 

[sndral]

When these threads pop up I’m always flummoxed.
As a DVC owner I have a long term lease allowing me to stay in one of Disney’s villas as long as I abide by their rules. I don’t own any particular villa & I signed a whole lot of papers when I bought agreeing that Disney gets to set the rules. If I disagree w/ the rules Disney sets (and this is property wide - not just DVC) I can sell my lease or I can complain to Disney & hope they change that rule. Personally I’m used to daily housekeeping when I stay in hotels, so a quick grab the trash once a day is NBD to me.
The thing that does irritate me is the early a.m. phone calls/door knocks on check out day, I don’t want to be aroused at 8 a.m. when I have a long travel day & 3 hour time zone change ahead of me. But it must not bother me that much since I keep returning to WDW .

 

[Simba's Mom]

Based on everything I've read here, I'm wondering if it's partially a requirement/recommendation/whatever of Disney's Insurance carrier.

 

[Sandisw]

Based on everything I've read here, I'm wondering if it's partially a requirement/recommendation/whatever of Disney's Insurance carrier.

That is what many believe and even if they self insure, standards need to be met.

 

[muppets3d]

Regardless of the reason it is a policy and while we may or may not like the policy, it is one that Disney strictly follows and we must accept if we choose to stay in their resorts.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Regardless of the reason it is a policy and while we may or may not like the policy, it is one that Disney strictly follows and we must accept if we choose to stay in their resorts.

Very few posters say otherwise but it does tend to catch people very off guard who are staying at Disney for the first time or the first time since it was put in place. You can say rules are rules while at the same time being annoyed or frustrated by them. The vast majority of posters or people in general aren't in it to go against the terms of their hotel stay so I don't think we need to pretend they are planning to riot.

 

[muppets3d]

Very few posters say otherwise but it does tend to catch people very off guard who are staying at Disney for the first time or the first time since it was put in place. You can say rules are rules while at the same time being annoyed or frustrated by them. The vast majority of posters or people in general aren't in it to go against the terms of their hotel stay so I don't think we need to pretend they are planning to riot.

Yeah I really don't like the policy, I don't think it does anything to prevent anything but they didn't ask me. I'd love to see Disney stop doing it. And yes, I realize that as a DVC member who stays on points that means I'll have to take out my own garbage.

 

[Girlstar30]

It is annoying, it is necessary for us to stay there, accept and schedule time for them to come.

They respect us enough to come when its convenient to us and they are there for 10 seconds.

When they first did it with us I was taken off guard too. I called and they didnt want to tell me why which further irritated me.

When someone finally did I was understanding that it was for safety concerns and that was that.