Malls

[Communicore1991]

There's a mall near where I work that seems to be relatively popular since it's right outside NYC so people come over to buy clothes and avoid NY state tax. The mall also still has one of the last remaining Sears stores and is pretty well stocked. I enjoy walking around the mall to get some extra steps in and seeing the different stores coming and going over the years I've been going there.

For those of you interested in the decline of malls there's a documentary about the Jasper Mall in Jasper, Alabama which was pretty fascinating to watch. It's on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Jasper-Mall-Mike/dp/B088MGQ7T1

 

[BayouQueen]

Our go-to mall is seemingly busy, but there aren't really that many stores. It's mostly restaurants now. And as others mentioned, there is very low inventory in the stores that are there.
I met a friend there for lunch a few days ago, and neither of us was motivated to shop before or after lunch. Just not enough there. I guess they expect you to see items and then go order online to get your size or the color you want.

 

[dclpluto]

Times are changing malls are drying up. I remember maybe about 15 years ago. It was at dicks sporting goods. They didn’t have what I wanted so they said I could order it. So I ordered it thinking I could pick it up at the store at a later date when it came in. It was going to come to my house so I cancelled it.
Now more days than not I have something delivered to my house. Mostly amazon sometimes chewy.

 

[sam_gordon]

Times are changing malls are drying up. I remember maybe about 15 years ago. It was at dicks sporting goods. They didn’t have what I wanted so they said I could order it. So I ordered it thinking I could pick it up at the store at a later date when it came in. It was going to come to my house so I cancelled it.
Now more days than not I have something delivered to my house. Mostly amazon sometimes chewy.

I don't understand the bolded. You were at the store, they're willing to order what you want (presumably at a price you're happy with), but since the delivery was going to be to your home instead of the store (which would require an extra trip on your part), you cancelled the order?

 

[tvguy]

One other mall that is 30 miles +/- (not sure since it's 20 for me), that mall is doing extremely well along with the twenty million (it seems) strip type malls around it also. .

I edited my post because I thought you were talking about Arden Fair on the third one too. (same as a pp). We hit up Sunrise last Christmas because they had See's in there but now I see See's is moving across the street in a stand alone building.

Your honorable mention-the casino has a good food court : )

Would that mall be the Roseville Galleria? Traffic is so bad up there I avoid it. Interesting about the food court at Sky River. It was a bit of time after they opened before the restaurants opened. When I looked online, the prices seemed high for a casino restaurant.

 

[tvguy]

I don't understand the bolded. You were at the store, they're willing to order what you want (presumably at a price you're happy with), but since the delivery was going to be to your home instead of the store (which would require an extra trip on your part), you cancelled the order?

I get not wanting it delivered at home particularly if it is a clothing item that might not fit. You're going to either have to mail it back or take it back to the store anyway, why not just pick it up there and if it doesn't fit, you leave it. And you don't have to worry about it being stolen off your porch.
Most retailers offer the option of having it delivered to the store or your home.

 

[dclpluto]

I don't understand the bolded. You were at the store, they're willing to order what you want (presumably at a price you're happy with), but since the delivery was going to be to your home instead of the store (which would require an extra trip on your part), you cancelled the order?

Yes I did.

 

[sam_gordon]

I get not wanting it delivered at home particularly if it is a clothing item that might not fit. You're going to either have to mail it back or take it back to the store anyway, why not just pick it up there and if it doesn't fit, you leave it. And you don't have to worry about it being stolen off your porch.
Most retailers offer the option of having it delivered to the store or your home.

But if it does fit, no trip to the store is needed. So there's a 50% chance.
Shipped to the store means 100% chance you have to go to the store.

Obviously people can do what they want. I'm just trying to understand the logic in the decision.

 

[tvguy]

But if it does fit, no trip to the store is needed. So there's a 50% chance.
Shipped to the store means 100% chance you have to go to the store.

Obviously people can do what they want. I'm just trying to understand the logic in the decision.

Not even close to 50-50. I have NO idea how people buy clothing online, sizes never are the same from brand to brand, and sometimes from lot to lot. My daughter buys clothing online and I suspect here return ratio is two returns until she gets what she wants.

 

[sam_gordon]

Not even close to 50-50. I have NO idea how people buy clothing online, sizes never are the same from brand to brand, and sometimes from lot to lot. My daughter buys clothing online and I suspect here return ratio is two returns until she gets what she wants.

So you're using your single data point (your daughter's experience) an extrapolating out for everyone. Interesting. Guessing some people might have no problem mailing things back.

50/50- You either take the item to the store, or you don't.

 

[tvguy]

So you're using your single data point (your daughter's experience) an extrapolating out for everyone. Interesting. Guessing some people might have no problem mailing things back.

50/50- You either take the item to the store, or you don't.

Been in a UPS store lately? Not a single data point. Returns are big business now for UPS

 

[Cfabar1]

By us they are dying... Some companies will flourish more than others...

The Forbes Company was very strategic with which malls they invested in, and never got greedy...
https://www.theforbescompany.com/

Mall at Millennia, Somerset Collection, Palm Beach Gardens, and Waterside Shops in Naples.... They will be just fine, these are some of the most in-demand areas and stores.... It won't be as good as the glory days, but they are still a solid business.

On the other hand, Taubman and Simon Malls are not doing so hot... they overextended, and they are paying the price... the model was questionably sustainable in the 90s, it is especially not sustainable now....

Then there are the properties that were built by Taubman, Simon, and others which they have dumped.... We have a former Simon Mall in our area.... it is truly depressing... the companies that swoop in and buy these properties rarely have what it takes to really ensure their success... These operators are offloading the properties they know won't be able to make it, and their subsequent owners don't have the cash to transform them and turn them around.

 

[_19disnA]

Have been to several stores where they will order for you and ship no-charge if the exact size/color item isn't in stock. Seemed like a good idea so they don't lose a sale. Was at a local shoe store, local department store as well as one of those catalog stores (either Land's End or LL Bean) worked out fine for me. If I try on the size in blue but wanted red, I don't see a problem and actually saves me time of driving back to the store vs. ship to home.

The unusual arrangement was at one of those office supply stores. Needed a plastic floor mat you put under your computer chair so it slides easier. Price online was lower then in the store. When I was at the check-out register I asked why there was a price discrepancy. Clerk asked me which price I wanted...........I said the LOWER price, so that is what they charged me!!! Appears if I hadn't noticed (or asked) they would charge the HIGHER price...............seems strange to me............LOL. That might be an example where I would say no thanks if the store was going to charge a higher price and would go home and order online.

 

[sam_gordon]

Been in a UPS store lately? Not a single data point. Returns are big business now for UPS

Huh? All those people with "returns" at the UPS store (how you know they're returns I don't know) ordered from brick and mortar stores?

And you know they're returning the entire order vs just one part of it?

 

[tvguy]

Huh? All those people with "returns" at the UPS store (how you know they're returns I don't know) ordered from brick and mortar stores?

And you know they're returning the entire order vs just one part of it?

My first clue was when they walk to the clerk and say "this is an Amazon return here is the return label" often followed with "for the second....third.....and once...fourth time thrown in there.

 

[DodgerGirl]

When my dad had to go attend business meetings one city he would go to was Stockton and when my mom and I went to Stockton we were surprised that Stockton has two malls directly right next to each other and the mall that we went to in Stockton was big and even had a Dillard's in it but the other mall was small and it had Macy's Best Buy and other stores and I thought to myself how can a city like Stockton build two malls on the same street directly across from each other because it sounded odd to me? But I have noticed that cities are getting outlet malls and they are hugely popular and I can't figure it out? My mom and I used to shop Gilroy Premium Outlets and when you look at that place the whole outlet mall takes up two streets and is huge and I haven't figured out how they survive while the other thing Gilroy has an obsession with is shopping centers and before you hit the outlet mall there you see shopping centers and one has a Target and Kohl's and directly across the street is another shopping center with Lowes and Costco on one side and a huge Walmart Supercenter on the other side and those stores in those shopping centers make huge money and i'm guessing that shopping centers and outlet malls are the malls of the future