Major Rumor Marvel in ToT update page 25

I've stayed away from this thread gor a couple of weeks to mull this idea over.

I have to say that I still find it to be ghastly.
 
So who are the "original avengers"? I don't really understand why from the definition of "characters used in USF/IOA at the time" they can't use Iron Man, Captain America, ect. The only characters used I can think of are Hulk, Dr Doom, Storm, and Spidey. It said meet and greets did not count. Does the use of Hulk really rule out anyone in a movie Hulk is in?
 
So who are the "original avengers"? I don't really understand why from the definition of "characters used in USF/IOA at the time" they can't use Iron Man, Captain America, ect. The only characters used I can think of are Hulk, Dr Doom, Storm, and Spidey. It said meet and greets did not count. Does the use of Hulk really rule out anyone in a movie Hulk is in?
It's supposed to be the character and the family they are a part of.

As for characters in use, I didn't realize that it didn't include the meet and greet characters.
 
To give you an idea of how mess it is, Wolverine (as currently depicted in the comics) is an old-man from a parallel universe who has somehow ended up in the main universe where the younger Wolverine is dead. I'm not making this up.

The language in the contract strikes me as woolly and almost unenforceable given the incredibly wide parameters set and the nature of the source material. No doubt Universal plays it pretty safe and tame and sticks to the "iconic" looks. But I was just curious if they had gone so far as to actually define a time period for the land.

Wolverine is dead in the comics right now. And second, the "old man from another universe" version of Wolverine was a storyline back in 2008 that wrapped up in 2009. So it is wildly inaccurate to state that it is, or even has recently been, the version of him "currently" depicted.

That said, here is a list of all 32 wolverine variations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_versions_of_Wolverine

The rule is quite simple. Marvel Super Hero Island depicts a specific version of the "Marvel Action Universe". So Universal can't go parading Zombie Wolverine, or Earth-X Wolverine, or Age of Apocalypse Wolverine around their park when they clearly are depicting the "standard" universe wolverine. Just because some silly side story gets run for a few months in the comics doesn't mean that suddenly it opens up that particular "age" to them. Besides, even if Universal OWNED Marvel, they would have no reason to depict an alternate Wolverine unless it was for a movie tie-in or something (assuming they actually got so far into the marvel universe they started confusing people with alternate worlds). Themeparks cater to the most common denominator of whatever material they are working with. Hence, the wolverine we get at IoA is based off the 90's comic\cartoon style. Not the Bryan Singer movie style, not the Weapon-X style, etc....

When debating something like this contract you have to look at it from a business perspective and not a comic-book perspective. I guarantee you, at no point did Universal creative ever fret over which version of any character they could or should use. The obvious vanilla version was always going to be the pick. This provision in the contract simply guaranteed that Marvel, not Universal, would get final say on such things.

However, a Marvel Zombie haunted house at halloween horror nights would have been pretty cool ;)
 

As a huge comics fan, the versions depicted at IoA really are the best versions of these characters. I love me the MCU and all, but those early 90's designs just rock!

Part of me does wish Disney would get the rights as they are the stewards of the characters now, but I'd miss the Spider-Man ride (best thing at all of Universal!) and the sort of dated yet timeless Super Hero Island look and feel. We just won't get that with Disney and the MCU versions.
 
As a huge comics fan, the versions depicted at IoA really are the best versions of these characters. I love me the MCU and all, but those early 90's designs just rock!

Part of me does wish Disney would get the rights as they are the stewards of the characters now, but I'd miss the Spider-Man ride (best thing at all of Universal!) and the sort of dated yet timeless Super Hero Island look and feel. We just won't get that with Disney and the MCU versions.
I also like how Universal handles these characters. I'm leery of how Disney would depict them to be honest. I still shudder when I think of Vader dancing around but then I might be too much of a purist.
 
I also like how Universal handles these characters. I'm leery of how Disney would depict them to be honest. I still shudder when I think of Vader dancing around but then I might be too much of a purist.

When was Vader dancing around?

Personally, I don't mind the silly stuff. It might be why I like older comics as opposed to today's grim ones. MCU has its share of fun which is why I do like it so much.
 
When was Vader dancing around?

Personally, I don't mind the silly stuff. It might be why I like older comics as opposed to today's grim ones. MCU has its share of fun which is why I do like it so much.

WARNING sound! It's amusing but...
 

WARNING sound! It's amusing but...

Oh yeah! I never got to see the Hyperspace Hoopla (I've seen clips of it online though). Personally, it doesn't bother me. Also, it appears now that Disney owns SW they have cut back on some of this goofy stuff. Then again, there's still Lego Star Wars.
 
Oh yeah! I never got to see the Hyperspace Hoopla (I've seen clips of it online though). Personally, it doesn't bother me. Also, it appears now that Disney owns SW they have cut back on some of this goofy stuff. Then again, there's still Lego Star Wars.
I don't mind Lego since it's more of a niche product and not so in your face to me as this show. I always enjoyed SWW (RIP) but I avoided this because it just feels wrong. Again, I think that I'm too uptight about this type of thing though.
 
I don't want to be the one to spread false rumors, but I recently saw a vlog discussion about Tower of Terror in DCA being replaced with something related to Guardians of the Galaxy. It said this rumor did not address the Tower of Terror in DHS but still caught my attention. Anybody else hear this or have any more info?
 
As a huge comics fan, the versions depicted at IoA really are the best versions of these characters. I love me the MCU and all, but those early 90's designs just rock!

Part of me does wish Disney would get the rights as they are the stewards of the characters now, but I'd miss the Spider-Man ride (best thing at all of Universal!) and the sort of dated yet timeless Super Hero Island look and feel. We just won't get that with Disney and the MCU versions.

But aren't they re-doing the whole area to make it feel more like MCU? When they announced the Hulk refurbishment they basically said that they wanted to change the whole queue to reflect the more modern version of the character. I'm not sure about what are the limitations of Universal using MCU, but I think that's the future of Marvel theme park presence regardless of whether Disney or Universal have the rights. If Marvel at DCA happens I'm sure it will reflect MCU.
 
I don't want to be the one to spread false rumors, but I recently saw a vlog discussion about Tower of Terror in DCA being replaced with something related to Guardians of the Galaxy. It said this rumor did not address the Tower of Terror in DHS but still caught my attention. Anybody else hear this or have any more info?

Well, this is really what this 14 page discussion is all about! The consensus is that this is a really BAD idea. It is only a rumor that Disney is denying, but we all know how that goes. The rumor specifically states that DCA ToT would change permanently and they would build a Marvel land behind it. DHS ToT would just get an overlay and it would be "temporary" though we'll see, eh?

Save the Tower of Terror!
 
But aren't they re-doing the whole area to make it feel more like MCU? When they announced the Hulk refurbishment they basically said that they wanted to change the whole queue to reflect the more modern version of the character. I'm not sure about what are the limitations of Universal using MCU, but I think that's the future of Marvel theme park presence regardless of whether Disney or Universal have the rights. If Marvel at DCA happens I'm sure it will reflect MCU.

I hadn't really heard that. It doesn't surprise me though, but I certainly like it the way it is (though I miss the Fear Fall, even if it was just an off-the-shelf space shot).
 
I hadn't really heard that. It doesn't surprise me though, but I certainly like it the way it is (though I miss the Fear Fall, even if it was just an off-the-shelf space shot).

As far as I understand that was the purpose of the Hulk refurb. Some rumors even say that they are planning to build a brand new MCU ride in that area. Who knows, though. I do like the classic feel of the current land, but I guess they'll want to focus on what the new generations like.
 
As far as I understand that was the purpose of the Hulk refurb. Some rumors even say that they are planning to build a brand new MCU ride in that area. Who knows, though. I do like the classic feel of the current land, but I guess they'll want to focus on what the new generations like.
Yes rumors were but I don't know if they still are to build an avengers ride in that area. The drop tower ride is also supposed to get redone.
 
I can not see Disney changing the theming or design of Rock N Rollercoaster or Tower of Terror. They are themed around the entrance to DHS and Hollywood Boulevard. This is a mainstay them of the park. If they re-theme those two rides in my opinion they would have to re-theme Hollywood boulevard and the entrance, otherwise those two rides would be out of place. I do not see why they would re-theme two of their most popular attractions and I do not even think Big Hero 6 and GotG are good enough themes to change to.
 
the avengers umbrella which cannot be used in the east side of the Mississippi..


In this day of lawyers-the "iron glad" contract better be more detailed than that IMO.

The Mississippi is not at least straight to the west of Orlando, therfore Orlando is not straight east of the Mississippi.

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In this day of lawyers-the "iron glad" contract better be more detailed than that IMO.

The Mississippi is not at least straight to the west of Orlando, therfore Orlando is not straight east of the Mississippi.

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I posted the contract earlier you can look at it yourself.
 
I posted the contract earlier you can look at it yourself.

Thanks will check it out, sorry trying to catch up. I'm sure it has to be more detailed like I said.
 















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