Mad Men Discussion Thread

[NotUrsula]

re: Joan and birth control. She certainly knew about the Pill and had been on it for years; remember that on Peggy's first day of work she sent her to the OB/GYN to get a scrip for them? (Unfortunately no-one thought to tell Peggy that they don't work until you've taken them for an entire cycle -- OOPS). It was clear at that last OB/GYN visit of Joan's (plus the discussion that she had with Greg when she got home) that she and Greg were talking about trying for a baby, and probably had been trying. Under the circumstances and knowing that Greg was leaving for basic training soon, her own doctor would have been scandalized if she had asked for a refill on her pills. The expectation usually was that married women did not take them unless they had medical reasons for not wanting to get pregnant.

I grew up in a military community, and in those days if your spouse was deployed, the clinic at the base hospital absolutely would not give you a scrip for birth control, and you probably would have been ratted out to a chaplain for even asking. I can remember overhearing this discussion when friends' moms were going to be going to Japan or Hawaii for R&R visits with their husbands -- they would have to beg to get just enough pills to last 2 months.

 

[Mimi1965]

NotUrsula-thanks-i did forget that tidbit-and that Peggy was on the pill like a couple days when she got Pregnant.
Now that raises a good question-she didnt realize she was pg the whole 9 months-you have to wonder if she kept taking the pill?

 

[Cindy B]

The theme was secrets.. did anyone else catch Pete's irony?

Here he was whining about Don to Trudy.. meanwhile, Trudy has no idea that Pete fathered Peggy's child, and that he quasi-raped an aur pair in their building......

Joan and the abortions... that makes me really sad. We haven't seen Jane at all this season--of course she has been talked about though.

Now with Lee Garner Jr. and Lucky Strike out of the picture, SCDP can hire SAL back... I love SAL!

 

[beachlover9395]

Wasn't that awesome? I would've done the same thing. I was also pleasantly surprised at Betty's reaction. It was nice to see her happy for her daughter for once.

Actually, the date is spot on: the Beatles played at Shea on August 15, 1965. Their first US appearance was on the Ed Sullivan Show in February, 1964.

I really thought Betty was going to tell Sally that she couldn't go - partly to spite Don and partly to punish Sally for some of the things she's had happen during this season.

Very pleasantly surprised - the writers got that one right. I really expected the worst from Betty in this particular situation. Guess i need to cut the character some slack, LOL!

 

[lisaviolet]

The theme was secrets.. did anyone else catch Pete's irony?

Here he was whining about Don to Trudy.. meanwhile, Trudy has no idea that Pete fathered Peggy's child, and that he quasi-raped an aur pair in their building......

!

Yes, I laughed through his entire hypocritical speech. Too funny. The boy - I just can't get out man - is just something.

What is also too funny to me - Sally talks more and more like Betty now. Her intonation or word choice or something. It's hysterical to me. (I haven't read back so forgive me if you've already noticed it).

The Jessica Pare storyline (don't know her character's name - Don's secretary) - saw it eons ago that they were sliding her in. And I say good because Don and Dr. Faye - I'm not feeling an ounce of chemistry. But uh oh about telling her his past and then letting her go. Uh oh.

As for Ida - OMG - such wonderful writing. So many wonderful lines. I loved when she asked Don if he was going to the washroom. What a priceless character.

 

[momrek06]

I believe that was a 60's-ish Mickey Mouse, Lane was carrying around last night!!!

Is he leaving?

I missed seeing Peggy last night.

I thought last night's epi was awesome! Loved when Sally got the call from her Dad about the BEATLES!
I was exactly Sally's age when the Beatles came to America to perform. Every outfit Sally wears and her hair style reminds me of when I was little.

 

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

Question: What was with Don checking out his secretary at the very end? I mean she is ridiculously hot but Don has never seem to have an interest in her before.

 

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

Personally, I've never understood the loathing that is commonly expressed for Betty. She's no Mother of the Year candidate, but she's not as horrible as some people have decided she is.

Is this a joke? She slaps Sally across the side of the face for no good reason. She wasn't paying attention to the kids and Sally snuck off by herself and hopped the train. She's an awful and annoying mother.

And she was an even worse wife. Don took her to Europe and then she got mad because they had to go home.

 

[Mimi1965]

Question: What was with Don checking out his secretary at the very end? I mean she is ridiculously hot but Don has never seem to have an interest in her before.

I was getting the vibe that Don will never change and will hop in the bed with any woman available. i feel sorry for the nice Doctor-her heart will be broken

 

[NotUrsula]

You know, actually, I didn't get a lust vibe off of that last look at Megan at all, though of course, I could be completely wrong. It struck me more as envy, that she could just hustle Harry a little bit to make sure the tickets arrived, and then all is forgiven and her world is back in order. An easy fix.

I think Don was bitterly envious of the simplicity of her life. Think of the despair that has to be just under the surface when he thinks about the fact that enough people now know the secret for it to be out of his hands -- if any one of them decides to drop a dime on him, it's over.

 

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

You know, actually, I didn't get a lust vibe off of that last look at Megan at all, though of course, I could be completely wrong. It struck me more as envy, that she could just hustle Harry a little bit to make sure the tickets arrived, and then all is forgiven and her world is back in order. An easy fix.

I think Don was bitterly envious of the simplicity of her life. Think of the despair that has to be just under the surface when he thinks about the fact that enough people now know the secret for it to be out of his hands -- if any one of them decides to drop a dime on him, it's over.

Maybe Don will get her preggers so her life won't be so simple anymore

 

[Family Fun Mom]

Last night's episode was amazing! Don's panic attack/breakdown when he thought the feds were at his apartment was so realistic, so wonderfully acted. Blew me away.

As for Joan, my bet is that she didn't go through with it. Something tells me there is going to be much more to this particular storyline.

 

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

Last night's episode was amazing! Don's panic attack/breakdown when he thought the feds were at his apartment was so realistic, so wonderfully acted. Blew me away.

As for Joan, my bet is that she didn't go through with it. Something tells me there is going to be much more to this particular storyline.

I also think that Joan didn't go through with it. The convo with the mother at the clinic changed her mind.

 

[antmaril]

Last night's episode was amazing! Don's panic attack/breakdown when he thought the feds were at his apartment was so realistic, so wonderfully acted. Blew me away.

As for Joan, my bet is that she didn't go through with it. Something tells me there is going to be much more to this particular storyline.

I agree. I don't think Joan went through with it. Things are definitely going to get interesting.

Sally reminds me of myself. My mother bought tickets for me to see The Beatles in 1964. I was 13 at the time (so a little older than Sally), but the reaction was about the same

 

[Mimi1965]

I didnt even think of Joan NOT doing it-wowser!

 

[beachlover9395]

Any thoughts on Sunday's episode? Don was finally "with" the secretary, the firm finally found out about Lucky Strike leaving and subsequently lost other accounts, Pete's wife had the baby but he wasn't at the hospital and his FIL is pushing for him to leave Sterling Cooper et al. and go to a competing firm, Don's girlfriend has gotten him an interview with Heinz (I think?), Peggy had lots of fun this week, and Joan ended things with Roger shortly after Roger pretended to go visit Am. Tobacco to get the account back. I'm sure I'm forgetting several things so feel free to chime in.

 

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

Any thoughts on Sunday's episode? Don was finally "with" the secretary, the firm finally found out about Lucky Strike leaving and subsequently lost other accounts, Pete's wife had the baby but he wasn't at the hospital and his FIL is pushing for him to leave Sterling Cooper et al. and go to a competing firm, Don's girlfriend has gotten him an interview with Heinz (I think?), Peggy had lots of fun this week, and Joan ended things with Roger shortly after Roger pretended to go visit Am. Tobacco to get the account back. I'm sure I'm forgetting several things so feel free to chime in.

It wasn't an interview with Heinz, it was a meeting. I believe they are already a client of SDCP and the meeting is to reassure them that everything will be okay. That's why Faye was upset with Don earlier because she's not suppose to do that.

I knew Don would get that secretary at some point. But did anyone think she looks better far away.. her face kind of looked a bit funny up close.

In the end, I think Don will find a way to save the firm. I mean they're not going to all go their separate ways on the show, that wouldn't really make sense.

 

[bicker]

Until it ends, of course.

 

[jaoconnor]

It wasn't an interview with Heinz, it was a meeting. I believe they are already a client of SDCP and the meeting is to reassure them that everything will be okay. That's why Faye was upset with Don earlier because she's not suppose to do that.

I knew Don would get that secretary at some point. But did anyone think she looks better far away.. her face kind of looked a bit funny up close.

In the end, I think Don will find a way to save the firm. I mean they're not going to all go their separate ways on the show, that wouldn't really make sense.

I took it as Heinz was with a different agency, but Faye knew they were unhappy. Don is stealing business because Faye is giving him info that betrays the trust of her other clients.

 

[bicker]

Yup that's the way I heard it.