Macy's.. go jump off a cliff. FREE SHIPPING *******

It's all about the advertising to me. Joe Average Customer does not search for that fine print...

I just think that's sad.

I see a big deal, I LOOK for the "fine print". Fine print is there to explain things. Read it. Know it. Love it. Fine print is our friend....
 
I just think that's sad.

I see a big deal, I LOOK for the "fine print". Fine print is there to explain things. Read it. Know it. Love it. Fine print is our friend....

You know that. I know that. Joe Average Customer? Not so much.

It's amazing, the things you learn from retail about the human race as a whole. ;)
 

I prefer Amazon who offers it after $25 and sometimes I have to work on spending THAT much.

I don't spend $99 at Macy's for anything so it's a big deal to me.

Yes, I'M CHEAP! :surfweb:

Thats odd there is no minimum spend for free shipping on amazon uk.
 
Perhaps, but I think there is also a lot of naïveté involved in folks expecting a better deal than is reasonable to expect. Sure, sometimes, such as with the amazon.co.uk example, there is a bonus to be had, but a smart consumer is the one who assumes that everything is worth the price (at best), not the one who assumes that there are super-fantastic deals around every corner.
 
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I apprecite true free shipping with no minimums, but I'm not going to condemn a retailer who is not able to please its shareholders and fit it into its business plan. I rarely buy clothes on-line for myself anyway b/c I need to see if it fits and how it fits.

Saving a few dollars on shipping if I know I'm going to spend a certain amount is an added bonus, but I'm not going to stock the cart to get it.

But I don't fault the retailers who wish to have a minimum so that they are getting their biggest bang for their buck out of a promotion.

It seems that most that are in disagreement prefer not to shop at Macy's, so getting upset about it seems odd to me.


I also do not like fine print. It covers their behind, but I do find it to be a deceptive marketing practice. However, I think the folks who would be upset, would still be upset if they put it in 36pt font as well. As with anything else, Buyer Beware and read EVERYTHING in an ad to be sure you don't get a surprise later. Usually if they put it tiny--that means the deal won't be as good as you thought it was.
 
I don't think anyone is "upset". It's more of a "give me a break" than "dog gone it" type of thing.
 
It's all about the advertising to me. Joe Average Customer does not search for that fine print, and retailers know it.
To me it's kind of like advertising something for $99.99 instead of $100. Advertisers know there are people out there that think $100 is too expensive for the item and won't buy but $99.99 is affordable and will buy the item. I actually laugh sometimes when I see a television commercial and all the prices end with all nines ($19.99, $29.99, etc.). It's a mind game all the way.
 
To me it's kind of like advertising something for $99.99 instead of $100. Advertisers know there are people out there that think $100 is too expensive for the item and won't buy but $99.99 is affordable and will buy the item. I actually laugh sometimes when I see a television commercial and all the prices end with all nines ($19.99, $29.99, etc.). It's a mind game all the way.

Same deal with gasoline--we never pay attention the fraction of a cent at the end.
 
Respectfully, I find it difficult to believe any shopper who any experience with coupons and retailers' sales doesn't read the fine print with an offer or promotion, or doesn't expect a deal to have conditions.

Plannin'Shannon said:
You know that. I know that. Joe Average Customer? Not so much.

It's amazing, the things you learn from retail about the human race as a whole. ;)
 
Netro West said:
To me it's kind of like advertising something for $99.99 instead of $100. Advertisers know there are people out there that think $100 is too expensive for the item and won't buy but $99.99 is affordable and will buy the item. I actually laugh sometimes when I see a television commercial and all the prices end with all nines ($19.99, $29.99, etc.). It's a mind game all the way.
Well, honestly - ending prices in "9" started many, many, many, many years ago and was instituted so the store clerk would HAVE to ring a transaction into the cash register, to get the change. It prevented store clerks from pocketing the cash.

But speaking of the ninety-nine cents thing - it irks me a little that CVS will give Extra Care Bucks if you spend a certain total on specified products... but then doesn't use even dollar amounts. Instead of being able to buy four items at $5 each, you need to scrounge around for the cheapest qualifying item that gets you over the $20 mark from the $19.96 you're already spending.
 
Perhaps, but I think there is also a lot of naïveté involved in folks expecting a better deal than is reasonable to expect. Sure, sometimes, such as with the amazon.co.uk example, there is a bonus to be had, but a smart consumer is the one who assumes that everything is worth the price (at best), not the one who assumes that there are super-fantastic deals around every corner.

I don't think anyone here is expecting Macy's or any other retailer to offer unreasonable deals. The issue is with how this particular deal is worded in order to fool or trick the consumer into thinking they are getting a great deal. I just got another email from them today, subject : 25% off and Free Shipping, and of course at the very bottom of the email is the very teeny tiny *free shipping on orders above .......*. All I'm asking is why the need to try and fool the consumer, just be upfront right there in the subject line or in the big huge print of the first lines of the email :)
I always read the fine print, and I assume most do so unless someone was planning on spending $100 they are most likely just going to look elsewhere for a better deal, because yes, they can be found, it just takes some looking. The item I wanted at macys was about $90 plus $13 shipping. I'm off to JCP today for the same item 15% off (instead of Macy's 10%) plus an additional GC bonus, and no shipping, definitely a better deal and it is right around the corner ;)
 
I don't think anyone here is expecting Macy's or any other retailer to offer unreasonable deals. The issue is with how this particular deal is worded in order to fool or trick the consumer into thinking they are getting a great deal. I just got another email from them today, subject : 25% off and Free Shipping, and of course at the very bottom of the email is the very teeny tiny *free shipping on orders above .......*. All I'm asking is why the need to try and fool the consumer, just be upfront right there in the subject line or in the big huge print of the first lines of the email :)
I always read the fine print, and I assume most do so unless someone was planning on spending $100 they are most likely just going to look elsewhere for a better deal, because yes, they can be found, it just takes some looking. The item I wanted at macys was about $90 plus $13 shipping. I'm off to JCP today for the same item 15% off (instead of Macy's 10%) plus an additional GC bonus, and no shipping, definitely a better deal and it is right around the corner ;)


Right! The email subject should say "25% OFF" and stop right there. If they're so proud about their free shipping offer, then they should make sure that they state it's over $100, too!! :) They're not proud about it. That's why it's in fine print.
 
Respectfully, I find it difficult to believe any shopper who any experience with coupons and retailers' sales doesn't read the fine print with an offer or promotion, or doesn't expect a deal to have conditions.
Surely, any consumer who cares about how much they spend very quickly comes to this understanding, despite claims to the contrary.

I don't think anyone here is expecting Macy's or any other retailer to offer unreasonable deals.
It is hard to tell, sometimes, and beyond that, even the under the covers "I really know that what I want isn't reasonable to expect" stuff still fosters entitlement mentality, driving the spread of disappointment and dissatisfaction. I don't see that as a good thing.

The issue is with how this particular deal is worded in order to fool or trick the consumer into thinking they are getting a great deal.
See above. There is nothing out of the ordinary here.
 














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