LOST - Last Season (NO SPOILERS)

[TheZue]

Miles also charged the grieving father for a reading when his son had been cremated and it was clear he couldn't tell what his last thoughts had been. So he was kinda shady.

 

["Got Disney"]

I have not posted here in awhile but here is my take...not sure if this was mentioned yet..

My take is that Flocke who of course is also the black smoke is as we all have gathered evil or the devil. When him and Sawyer were in the cave, Flock made a comment about him and Sawyer getting off the island. Making it clear that that was his main goal...

At that moment it made sense to me that maybe the island was made and put where it is, where no one could find it because God jailed evil there with no means of escape. The cave is not the cave of Jacob, but the cave of Evil/Flocke and the names in the cave are the names of the people that evil was using/able to reach somehow at certain times in there lives and to have them brought to the island so he could take over there bodies and become in human form making it the only way he could escape.

He found a match in Locke, although the others are thinking that Sayid(sp) is the match making them say he is infected and wanting to kill him, when the match is Flocke. And Flocke knowing that Sawyer is at his weakest point can use him the easiest to get off the island. Whats his face tried to warn Sawyer of the evil but of course he is sawyer.....

Jacob being able to travel through time because he is not trapped there like evil is, knows of these names and knows that evil has arranged for them and others to come to the island in hopes of taking over a human soul so to escape...so he(Jacob) visits each one of them touching them with the hand of GOD(touches them with the power of GOD) to protect them against evil taking over there souls.
I dont think Jacob is GOD but is the keeper over evil.,,,

Also the scale with the white and black rocks ,was balanced...hence the balance between good and evil....the scale is no longer in balance...because this time evil has the upper hand. If he escapes all havok could run a muck on Earth.

Locke of course came face to face with the black smoke and it didn't harm him..Evil found a connection with him but at that time was not able yet to take him over.

As for the time travel of everyone, this was set up by evil in order to get the people to him...most likely after eons of being trapped, like in the ancient days due to the markings on the walls where Jacob was thrown in the fire, Evil was able to master this, and figured a way to channel them... But Jacob was always one step ahead of him. Knowing this but not being able to stop it. So he prepared them without them knowing it.

This whole plan was put into action by evil to become human form and escape...and not only the ones (people)we are aware of but other people through the centuries have been brought there but no match till Locke. Even maybe finding some humans along the way that he got there, but were no match but had enough evil in them that he could persuade them to help him, also showing them how to travel back and forth...like Pennies dad for example.

So this whole thing was all set up by evil to escape...but could not do this unless he took over a human form...and needed the right match. It took him eons...but finally it paid off. After all all he had was time on his hands.

 

["Got Disney"]

I forgot to mention that the reason we are seeing them travel back and forth is because it was a fight between good and evil....Good would get them back there and evil would have them returned. Good is also trying to have them figure this out in the struggle back and forth...

I think at the end Evil(Flocke) will escape, all hell will start on Earth but good will prevail and everyone will be back where it all started yet only be left with deja vu...as they run in to each other. But instead of how there life would have been as they are showing if not for landing on the island...they will be granted by good with a life of happiness.

stay tuned next week for all my changes

 

[chell]

We don't see Jacob touching Sayid or Hurley until after the flight. So I don't understand how their lives could be different in the sideways flash if Jacob had no influence on their lives. Am I missing something?

 

[Amy]

We don't see Jacob touching Sayid or Hurley until after the flight. So I don't understand how their lives could be different in the sideways flash if Jacob had no influence on their lives. Am I missing something?

See, I'm not viewing the sideways flashes as being related to Jacob - the sideways flashes are how their lives would be if Oceanic 815 never crashed in the first place. Juliet detonated the bomb back in 1977 which changed the past from 1977 on. That's why things are different - the plane never crashed, Desmond was now on Oceanic 815, Hurley is now the luckiest person, etc.

Jacob touching the Losties will probably play a part of the "other" timeline, the one that's taking place on the island. Either Jacob touched them to claim them for "his" side in the war with Smokey/MIB, or (my theory) Jacob touched them and transferred some of his power to each of them, which is why it was so important for all of them to be together in the temple - to harness Jacob's power.

Yes, I can see your point - Jacob touched Kate when she was little, which was prob. before the bomb detonated in 1977. But I don't think Jacob's touch will play a role in that sideways timeline.

Then again, I could be totally wrong; that's happened before with this show!

 

[chell]

See, I'm not viewing the sideways flashes as being related to Jacob - the sideways flashes are how their lives would be if Oceanic 815 never crashed in the first place. Juliet detonated the bomb back in 1977 which changed the past from 1977 on. That's why things are different - the plane never crashed, Desmond was now on Oceanic 815, Hurley is now the luckiest person, etc.

Jacob touching the Losties will probably play a part of the "other" timeline, the one that's taking place on the island. Either Jacob touched them to claim them for "his" side in the war with Smokey/MIB, or (my theory) Jacob touched them and transferred some of his power to each of them, which is why it was so important for all of them to be together in the temple - to harness Jacob's power.

Yes, I can see your point - Jacob touched Kate when she was little, which was prob. before the bomb detonated in 1977. But I don't think Jacob's touch will play a role in that sideways timeline.

Then again, I could be totally wrong; that's happened before with this show!

Thanks for your view. That makes sense.

I don't get how their lives are different before the crash if the crash never happens. What makes Hurley lucky in this timeline? Before the original crash he wasn't lucky. What changed? The plane crashing shouldn't have an effect on that, right?

Everything just creates more and more questions!

 

[elgerber]

Thanks for your view. That makes sense.

I don't get how their lives are different before the crash if the crash never happens. What makes Hurley lucky in this timeline? Before the original crash he wasn't lucky. What changed? The plane crashing shouldn't have an effect on that, right?

Everything just creates more and more questions!

I have noticed a lot of things that are different before the plane crash in the new parallel reality.

 

[chell]

I have noticed a lot of things that are different before the plane crash in the new parallel reality.

It doesn't make sense to me why. Guess they will explain eventually. At least I sure hope so!

 

[Amy]

Thanks for your view. That makes sense.

I don't get how their lives are different before the crash if the crash never happens. What makes Hurley lucky in this timeline? Before the original crash he wasn't lucky. What changed? The plane crashing shouldn't have an effect on that, right?

Everything just creates more and more questions!

Yes, but the bomb detonated in 1977, so the past from 1977 on was changed, not just for whoever might have been on the island in 1977. I'm sure for some people nothing in their lives changed. Kate is still a fugitive (but we don't know if it is still from killing her stepfather or something else); Locke is still paralyzed, but we found out that it must not have been from his father pushing him out the window, since Helen wanted to invited his dad to their wedding.

Remember "It's a Wonderful Life"? Clarence showed Jimmy Stewart what would have happened to the town if he hadn't been born. Just one person, and look how that town changed. Who knows what happened on the island after the bomb went off in 1977 - did Dharma survive? What about the Others? We don't know. At least so far; maybe we'll find out.

 

[RadioNate]

It doesn't make sense to me why. Guess they will explain eventually. At least I sure hope so!

Because the new parallel reality started in 1977 not in 2004. It wasn't just the plane landing that was different. Everything from 1977 (the bomb) until 2004 may or may not be different. Some things are...some things aren't. The timeline split in 1977 so anything past that date is fair game to change (or not.)

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Thanks for your view. That makes sense.

I don't get how their lives are different before the crash if the crash never happens. What makes Hurley lucky in this timeline? Before the original crash he wasn't lucky. What changed? The plane crashing shouldn't have an effect on that, right?

Everything just creates more and more questions!

Hurley's is the only story where I get this. Remember that he won the lottery playing the island's numbers, that the guy in the mental institution repeated over and over after hearing them from his military(?) post nearby. No island, no numbers broadcast, no crazy guy repeating them over and over for Hurley to pick up and use to play the lotto. Somehow, he still won, but it wasn't with the unlucky numbers.

The rest, I hope we find out!

 

[elgerber]

Hurley's is the only story where I get this. Remember that he won the lottery playing the island's numbers, that the guy in the mental institution repeated over and over after hearing them from his military(?) post nearby. No island, no numbers broadcast, no crazy guy repeating them over and over for Hurley to pick up and use to play the lotto. Somehow, he still won, but it wasn't with the unlucky numbers.

The rest, I hope we find out!

Which really conflicts with the orginal reason he was in Australia. Why was he there this time do you suppose if that is the case? It's a good thing I enjoy a good mind bender, or this show would drive me off the deep end!

 

[Heidict]

Which really conflicts with the orginal reason he was in Australia. Why was he there this time do you suppose if that is the case? It's a good thing I enjoy a good mind bender, or this show would drive me off the deep end!

Hurley was in Australia to do commercials for Mr. Cluckys Chicken, or what ever the heck it is named.

 

[Amy]

Hey, I'm the first to post after last night's episode; that doesn't happen too often. I have a ton of work sitting here, but I just had to say…..

WOW! Great to see Ben as the good guy for a change! Neat to see Alex pop up again - I hadn't heard that she would be on this season. And more Artz! I'm glad Ben decided to stay with Ilana and the "good guys". Repent/redemption? I just hope that Ben has turned the corner and is now a good guy.

Ok, so Richard said that he was touched by Jacob and couldn't kill himself, but he could be killed by someone else. So, remember back to the end of last season with Jacob and MIB on the beach and MIB said "do you know how much I want to kill you"?? Is it possible that Jacob and MIB are just the good/evil sides of the same person, and that's why MIB couldn't kill Jacob - he couldn't kill himself. What do you think?

And did you see last week's repeat prior to this episode, with the subtitles? I got home around 8:45, so I didn't see the whole thing. But the subtitles said that Smokey/Locke was amassing his team/army, and he now had Claire, Sayid, Kate and Sawyer on his team. Did it mention Jin and I missed seeing it? Last we saw Jin he was in Claire's tent with a messed up leg. Did he manage to run away into the jungle? And I wonder why it said that Kate and Sawyer were on Smokey's team - as far as I know, they're not "infected" like Claire and Sayid; I've been thinking they're just going to see what's more beneficial for them, staying with Smokey/Locke or going with the temple folks (who are all dead now anyway). Hmmm…...

 

[harleyquinn]

This was one of my all time favorite episodes.

Loved EVERYTHING with Ben. Alex being there was so totally impossible, but it worked. They did a great job of making her look younger, but she sure has grown up.

I was so happy when Richard went to the Black Rock. I called that right after we met him. I think it was the one early guess that I was right about.

As far as Sawyer and Kate being on team evil, I agree with the other poster that said Sawyer's just running a con. I don't think he's evil. I just think he's trying to get off the island.

Did anyone else notice in the last scene on the beach there was the big group in the middle and then Ben way over on one side and Jack way over on the other. It was a light and dark image again. Made me think that they are just throwing those in there as both of them are firmly good now?

The only thing that bothered me about the whole episode is when did Jack finally get some faith? Last time we saw him, he was smashing the lighthouse being all douchey and suddenly he's the strong faithful character we all want him to be? I just think it needed another scene or 2 with him coming to that realization.

 

[ibouncetoo]

The only thing that bothered me about the whole episode is when did Jack finally get some faith? Last time we saw him, he was smashing the lighthouse being all douchey and suddenly he's the strong faithful character we all want him to be? I just think it needed another scene or 2 with him coming to that realization.

Epiphany while staring at the ocean?



I think Sawyer and Kate are going to try and escape from the island.

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[harleyquinn]

Epiphany while staring at the ocean?

That would be okay, but I needed one little line thrown in about it. I know the dynamite scene was all exciting and dramatic, but one little line to Hugo about trusting Jacob and I would have been satisfied.

 

[PixieDust32]

Ben was being evil and good at the same time.

 

[caribear]

I also enjoyed last nights episode. I loved the ending...with the music, no talking...just like the first few seasons of Lost when every episode ended that way.....just made me reminisce.

So Richard is ageless because Jacob touched him and gave him the special gift of agelessness.....after saving him from the shackles on the Black Rock. Do you think Jacob gave anyone else a "special gift" that we have not seen yet???

Loved how Ben turned out to be a good guy in the sideways timeline. I think this was partially to show that the island is what made him bad.....

I remember when Jacob told Hurley that someone was coming to the Island...and after Jack broke the lighthouse Hurley asked him how that person would find the island now that the lighthouse was broken...and Jacob said they will find their way....Do you think this pertains to Widmore in the sub as we saw at the end of the episode??? I thought the plan by Jacob to get Jack to the lighthouse was just to have him see the images and the names etched on the dial and to get him out of the temple, but maybe there really is someone coming to the island...and Jacob didn't seem too upset that someone was coming....and if that someone is Widmore then what does that mean to the storyline????

Lots of stuff going on...and I love it!!!

 

[PixieDust32]

Why does Richard wants to kill him self? I'm sorry I was under the influence of cough medicine last night.