Lookout Cay long pier.

[ruadisneyfan2]

yes according to a vlog I watched Not the long loungers but the short chairs you often see people dragging down to the water's edge even at castaway cay.

Thats what they’re for.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

Thats what they’re for.

On both islands, agreed

 

[randumb0]

From behind the dunes?

That's my plan. I can't watch my kids who will be in the water from behind a dune

 

[dreamer17555]

Im not critizing anyone for moving chairs- I am just surprised that DCL thinks it is okay that guests need to do this in order to have seating where they can see the water and watch their children. Clearly there need to be more chairs beach front, even if it means less loungers and more smaller chairs.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

Im not critizing anyone for moving chairs- I am just surprised that DCL thinks it is okay that guests need to do this in order to have seating where they can see the water and watch their children. Clearly there need to be more chairs beach front, even if it means less loungers and more smaller chairs.

Disney doesnt think this.. mother nature does. For times between cruises, chairs need to be well above the high tide mark to account for storms etc so they dont get washed out to sea. the alternative was to bulldoze the protective dunes to make more people happy beach, but island not so, for more chairs with direct access. Perhaps Disney will work out a better method, but thats what they have now to be eco friendly.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Disney doesnt think this.. mother nature does. For times between cruises, chairs need to be well above the high tide mark to account for storms etc so they dont get washed out to sea. the alternative was to bulldoze the protective dunes to make more people happy beach, but island not so, for more chairs with direct access. Perhaps Disney will work out a better method, but thats what they have now to be eco friendly.

Before the ship pulls out, they could stack and secure the chairs. They do this onboard multiple times each cruise.
No one was suggesting they get left out at the water’s edge to be washed out to sea.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

Before the ship pulls out, they could stack and secure the chairs. They do this onboard multiple times each cruise.
No one was suggesting they get left out at the water’s edge to be washed out to sea.

Nor did I say anyone suggested that. I merely pointed out an inconvenient reality. Only so much space, time and manpower combining to mean the chairs are where they are for a reason other than Disney not thinking about it. And they do stack those that get pulled out... but obviously they have a limit on how much they can move and clean up the island in the time between the guests leaving and the boat leaving. People that want to find a reason to complain wont be satisfied until there are literally hundreds moved.

 

[dreamer17555]

Disney doesnt think this.. mother nature does. For times between cruises, chairs need to be well above the high tide mark to account for storms etc so they dont get washed out to sea. the alternative was to bulldoze the protective dunes to make more people happy beach, but island not so, for more chairs with direct access. Perhaps Disney will work out a better method, but thats what they have now to be eco friendly.

Again they could use the smaller chairs instead of as many loungers so that there would be more rows available (and therefore more seating). They could (as mentioned) stack & secure them like they do on deck. There are solutions to this that don't involve bulldozing the dunes

 

[dreamer17555]

Nor did I say anyone suggested that. I merely pointed out an inconvenient reality. Only so much space, time and manpower combining to mean the chairs are where they are for a reason other than Disney not thinking about it. And they do stack those that get pulled out... but obviously they have a limit on how much they can move and clean up the island in the time between the guests leaving and the boat leaving. People that want to find a reason to complain wont be satisfied until there are literally hundreds moved.

They could hire more locals to help with setting up the beach and beach pull... They aren't limited to the crew on the ship to provide this service. I think a lot of this thread boils down to DCL could do better but is focusing on cutting corners to keep their profits up.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Nor did I say anyone suggested that. I merely pointed out an inconvenient reality. Only so much space, time and manpower combining to mean the chairs are where they are for a reason other than Disney not thinking about it. And they do stack those that get pulled out... but obviously they have a limit on how much they can move and clean up the island in the time between the guests leaving and the boat leaving. People that want to find a reason to complain wont be satisfied until there are literally hundreds moved.

I’m not “just finding a reason to complain”.
Going to a beach and expecting to get a beach chair on the beach is not a lot to ask for.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

Again they could use the smaller chairs instead of as many loungers so that there would be more rows available (and therefore more seating). They could (as mentioned) stack & secure them like they do on deck. There are solutions to this that don't involve bulldozing the dunes

By all means submit your ideas to the disney suggestion box. All I am doing is pointing out a potential issue they are addressing, the more we understand that, the better our suggestions can be. But my guess is as soon as they used the smaller chairs exclusively people would complain there were no loungers. Can't make everyone happy all the time. I dont relish Disney's job sometimes.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

I’m not “just finding a reason to complain”.
Going to a beach and expecting to get a beach chair on the beach is not a lot to ask for.

Yep so has already been said in this thread. to me its a first world problem. there are beach chairs on the beach. there are also beach chairs a 100 feet from the beach which if you want to you can move to the beach. in this thread anytime someone says something positive about LC, people jump out to find something to complain about. shrugs. It's not that I don't complain, I just tend to complain about things that I can change. Smiles. Otherwise, and I know I know people will yell at me again for this, if I don't like something, I chose not to go.

but this is all off topic, which is long pier. yes it is.

 

[Uncle Coaster]

If many people are moving chairs when they get to the beach, how do they get put back before the next group now? Are the customers putting them back where they found them? Color me impressed if they do.

Maybe Disney wants them where they are for a reason other than cutting corners?

 

[Kwami]

Again they could use the smaller chairs instead of as many loungers so that there would be more rows available (and therefore more seating). They could (as mentioned) stack & secure them like they do on deck. There are solutions to this that don't involve bulldozing the dunes

You know very well that if Disney replaced most loungers with short chairs, then everyone here would be complaining that Disney was just being cheap and didn't want to pay for bigger chairs and how dare they!

 

[dreamer17555]

You know very well that if Disney replaced most loungers with short chairs, then everyone here would be complaining that Disney was just being cheap and didn't want to pay for bigger chairs and how dare they!

I agree that there would be people unhappy with that, maybe the solution to simply add another row of shorter chairs and keep the current loungers as a compromise.

But DCL knew the capacity of their ships when they selected LP. They knew that most guests want to be oceanfront and not behind dunes. They knew how far the pier would need to be. That they stuck with this location (as beautiful as it is) despite the glaring issues is baffling to me. It wasn't LP or bust. Honestly there are some wonderful different destinations DCL could have taken their ships to, just without it being a DCL exclusive resort (which is the best way to put what LP is- it is not a private island).

Speaking only for myself I would rather DCL have expanded their itineraries to more unique ports of call over investing in LP considering the issues when the larger ships are docked there. The Magic is headed to the west coast in 2026 and may or may not end up back on the east- so in the future it is going to be the larger ships making up most of the sailings to LP and guests shouldn't need to carry chairs over dunes so they can sit and see their children.

 

[Goofy1932]

I agree that there would be people unhappy with that, maybe the solution to simply add another row of shorter chairs and keep the current loungers as a compromise.

But DCL knew the capacity of their ships when they selected LP. They knew that most guests want to be oceanfront and not behind dunes. They knew how far the pier would need to be. That they stuck with this location (as beautiful as it is) despite the glaring issues is baffling to me. It wasn't LP or bust. Honestly there are some wonderful different destinations DCL could have taken their ships to, just without it being a DCL exclusive resort (which is the best way to put what LP is- it is not a private island).

Speaking only for myself I would rather DCL have expanded their itineraries to more unique ports of call over investing in LP considering the issues when the larger ships are docked there. The Magic is headed to the west coast in 2026 and may or may not end up back on the east- so in the future it is going to be the larger ships making up most of the sailings to LP and guests shouldn't need to carry chairs over dunes so they can sit and see their children.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

But DCL knew the capacity of their ships when they selected LP. They knew that most guests want to be oceanfront and not behind dunes. They knew how far the pier would need to be. That they stuck with this location (as beautiful as it is) despite the glaring issues is baffling to me. It wasn't LP or bust.

It's well documented that Disney did look at other sites. I can see the allure of this one, but then I have a different perspective than you.

Speaking only for myself I would rather DCL have expanded their itineraries to more unique ports of call

And hopefully they still will. They do seem to be expanding their global reach into Asia and the South Pacific.

guests shouldn't need to carry chairs over dunes so they can sit and see their children.

To be accurate, there are chairs on the beach where you can watch your children. Disney just doesn't guarantee every last passenger can get off the boat when they want to and find one where they want it. Disney also doesn't guarantee you will get the dining time you request. They also don't guarantee private tables. They don't guarantee you will get the drink class you want. Or the cabana. The list of experiences Disney doesn't guarantee is long and distinguished. We have just come to accept those things over time. Disney tries to find the balance between available resources and positive experiences. I can't even imagine the cost of a cruise designed to guarantee all experiences to all people all the time.

Carrying a small chair over the dune so that one can take their time getting off the ship doesn't seem to be outrageous in light of the things Disney already doesn't guarantee. At least there is a solution. If only there was one for everyone getting a Cabana.

 

[Mags2002]

If many people are moving chairs when they get to the beach, how do they get put back before the next group now? Are the customers putting them back where they found them? Color me impressed if they do.

Maybe Disney wants them where they are for a reason other than cutting corners?

I almost died laughing!! No the Guests aren’t moving them back. Crew are scheduled to do this at the end of the day.
Disney needs the chairs where they are as they have to be a certain distance away from the water. More chairs cannot be added and left down on the beach because at high tide there is not enough room and obviously we don’t want them swept away

 

[Mags2002]

People have also been sitting on a towel on the sand. This is completely normal for a beach day in most parts of the world

 

[Mags2002]

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Before the ship pulls out, they could stack and secure the chairs. They do this onboard multiple times each cruise.
No one was suggesting they get left out at the water’s edge to be washed out to sea.

There is a huge difference between stacking and moving chairs onboard and doing it in the sand/water in the heat when you’re rushing to get it done before you also have to be back on the ship