Looking at first DSLR - Nikon D5300 opinions?

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I'm leaning towards Nikon and want something that I can learn on, but not outgrow too quickly. Currently liking what I see in the D5300, but the feature set doesn't sound too different from the D5200. Is it worth the $100 more for the Wi-Fi and lack of Low Pass Filter? The other changes didn't seem that significant.

Any Nikon shooters out there with this camera with opinions (good/bad/otherwise)?
Is it a good learner and one that can grow with me?
Are we expecting to see prices drop soon with any release of newer models?

Then if I get that particular camera (or any Nikon for that matter), should I go with the kit 18-55 lens or the longer kit zoom lens, or go body only and pick up some others?

I already know I want a good prime lens for low light (something like the 35 mm f/1.8 comes to mind).

Any good recommendations for a beginner set-up?
 
I'm leaning towards Nikon and want something that I can learn on, but not outgrow too quickly. Currently liking what I see in the D5300, but the feature set doesn't sound too different from the D5200. Is it worth the $100 more for the Wi-Fi and lack of Low Pass Filter? The other changes didn't seem that significant.

Any Nikon shooters out there with this camera with opinions (good/bad/otherwise)?
Is it a good learner and one that can grow with me?
Are we expecting to see prices drop soon with any release of newer models?

Then if I get that particular camera (or any Nikon for that matter), should I go with the kit 18-55 lens or the longer kit zoom lens, or go body only and pick up some others?

I already know I want a good prime lens for low light (something like the 35 mm f/1.8 comes to mind).

Any good recommendations for a beginner set-up?

I do not own the d5300 but I've heard a lot of good things. The d3200 and d5200 were both great cameras. My friend shoots with the d5200 and I've used it enough to give my opinion of it. I played with the d5300 briefly and they seems essentially the same. I'm sure the d5300 has nice features and basic updates. In the world of consumer electronics the newer model is usually better. Personally I'd just get the d5300.

As a beginner looking to learn I would suggest the d3300. It's less expensive and 95% of the d5300. According to DXOmark the d3300 has slightly better color depth than the d5300. The d5300 has slightly better dynamic range than the d3300. I recommend the d3300 for you.

Do not expect a price drop or a new model. The d5200 and d3200 was released two years ago. The d5300 and d3300 were released this year, they're brand new models. Don't expect the d5300/d3300 to be replaced until 2016.

Personally, I suggest buying your camera body only and then purchasing exactly the lens you want later. When I purchased my first dSLR I quickly realized that I didn't want the 18-55mm kit lens. I use primes significantly more often than zooms. A fast prime for me is ideal. I used the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 almost exclusively in the parks. I never use the kit lens. The 35mm f/1.8 will do you fine. It's a nice focal length. Also you might want to look into an inexpensive telephoto lens like a 55-200mm for shows, distant objects, and "details".
 
I'm going to respectfully disagree with my friend Tom a little bit..

I agree that if you are interested in an entry-level/mid level Nikon, the D3300, D5200 and D5300 should all be considered.

The guts of the D3300 is pretty much the same as the guts of the other cameras. So in terms of pure image quality, even in terms of burst shooting, you can get the same results from the D3300.

But the 5000 series does have advantages over the 3000 series. Perhaps none of the advantages are make or break critical advantages, but they do have value. And how much value is subjective.

If you are going to use the camera purely for P&S, I might get the 3000 series. But if you are going to grow in your photography, the 5000 series has some advantages.

So here are some of the advantages of the D5300 over the others:

-- This is seldom listed, but to me, it's the biggest. To my knowledge, the D3300 does NOT have auto-exposure bracketing. This is where you set the camera to automatically take 3 different exposures in continuous shots. Underexposed/Normal Exposure/Over exposed. This is a big feature IF you want to ever do HDR photography. For HDR, you use computer software to merge those 3 images. The effect is greatly increased dynamic range, and the effect can also be stylized as well.

Here is a recent example of HDR:

Grand Central Tourists by Havoc315, on Flickr

University of Virginia by Havoc315, on Flickr
Personally, I would not buy any camera that didn't have Auto bracketing. Because I enjoy HDR.

Can you do HDR without Auto bracketing? Yes, you can get around it. You would need to put your camera on a tripod, and manually re-adjust the exposure between 3 shots.
But when it's Auto-bracketed -- You can do it handheld and quickly. That makes a big difference, especially if there are subjects/people that might move!

Second, it's my impression that the D5300 has a slightly better layout of controls than the D3300, though neither will match the D7____ series and above. Might not seem worthwhile to pay extra just for extra buttons, but as you master manual controls, it becomes very helpful.
For example, on my old entry level camera -- to adjust ISO, I had to go to the main menu, scroll to ISO, select it, then scroll to the ISO I wanted. Now, I have just 1 button to press --- makes it much easier to make the change on the fly.


Now the D5300 has GPS and WIFI that are both lacking on the other models. To me, neither is make or break. But they are both helpful.
I have GPS on my camera. Especially handy for travel photos -- Automatically tagging the photos with location. When loaded into Lightroom, etc, let's you organize by location. Want to find the pictures you took at the Eiffel tower? Just go to the world map, and zoom in at the Eiffel Tower!
Lack of GPS would not *stop* me from buying a camera, but it does add some value.

Wifi -- I've never owned a camera with wifi except for my phone. But it's pretty easy to see that it would present value. Often, I'm taking family pictures with my good camera, while my wife will take a quick shot simultaneously with her phone, just so she has something to instantly post to facebook instead of waiting a few days for me to upload pictures.
I shot a dance recital for a friend a few weeks ago.. On the way home, they asked me if I could email them some of the pictures "right now." To the extent people want instant sharing of photos, social media, etc --- Wifi can certainly add some value. I live perfectly fine without it, but it's not worthless.

The D5300 has a better Autofocus system than the D3300. If you simply use center point AF, then they will behave the same. But if you want to shoot with all AF points, helpful for action, sports, etc -- The D5300 will be able to focus more accurately.

Articulated screen! If you shoot in live view or movies, it can be helpful to tilt the screen. I was taking some macro flower shots the other day... Instead of breaking my back to get my body low to the ground, I tilted the screen and held the camera down.
(Though I shoot Sony, which has a great live view.. live view on Nikon is sub par).
So you can certainly live without an articulated screen -- But it does add value.

Taking out the low pass filter? In theory, this leads to a tiny increase in resolution. If you are not shooting with expensive lenses, you will probably never even notice it. So to me, it's really not a big issue. But if you plan on increasing your lens collection, if you see yourself really growing in photography, then yes--- you may eventually see sharper images without the low pass filter.

So those are the advantages of the D5300 as I see them. Only you can decide how much these advantages might be "worth" to you.

Lenses: I absolutely positively would get the 18-55. It's a very very good lens particularly for only $100 extra. That's about the same price as you would get the lens used.
It's a very useful range. Most photographers do need a wide zoom in their bag. (It's wide, but it's not ultrawide).
It really is a very well reviewed lens. No, it's not as good as a prime lens, and it's not as good as a $500+ lens.
But for a novice photographer, it's useful and will give great results when used properly. It's super sharp in the center at all apertures.
You are better off later buying a telephoto zoom, than getting an "all in one" lens.
 

I'm a Nikon shooter. I totally wouldn't waste my time with the kit lens. For a walk around every day general use lens, the 18-200 is a good fit. As you grow in your photography journey, you'll grow into different lenses but if you just want a good camera to take good pics of your kiddos, the 18-200 will cover all the ranges and keep you from doing a ton of lens swapping.
Grab a good prime too though.

I personally love the 70-200, 85 mm and 105 mm lenses. I use a 50 occasionally and the 14-24 wide angle is amazing. I never invested in the 24-70, but I have a 24-120 that I keep for a walk around. And that's only b/c the 18-200 isn't a lens for my full frame camera. I'd much prefer that lens for everyday normal snapping.

Good luck! I think the d5xxx series is an excellent place to start. You won't out grow the camera for a long while. If you start at the d3xxx series, you will want to upgrade much sooner. And frankly, photography is not a cheap hobby! Beware! It's addicting!
 
I'm going to respectfully disagree with my friend Tom a little bit..

Hahaha you're probably better off listening to Havok315 than to me. He certainly knows more about this stuff than I do.

Most of what's being discussed here depends a lot on how you shoot. For me, I use mostly prime lenses and a telephoto zoom. But most people prefer zoom lenses, especially ones with a very large focal range like 18-200mm. I'm also thinking about things in terms of budget. I try to keep things marginally inexpensive, which is why I recommended the d3300. But if the d5300 is within budget then it's an easy choice. I'd rather spend a bit less on a body and spend more on lenses, especially when the d3300 and the d5300 are so similar in image performance. However, that's just me. Other people will feel differently. It's all about what's important to you, not anyone else.
 
Hahaha you're probably better off listening to Havok315 than to me. He certainly knows more about this stuff than I do.

Most of what's being discussed here depends a lot on how you shoot. For me, I use mostly prime lenses and a telephoto zoom. But most people prefer zoom lenses, especially ones with a very large focal range like 18-200mm. I'm also thinking about things in terms of budget. I try to keep things marginally inexpensive, which is why I recommended the d3300. But if the d5300 is within budget then it's an easy choice. I'd rather spend a bit less on a body and spend more on lenses, especially when the d3300 and the d5300 are so similar in image performance. However, that's just me. Other people will feel differently. It's all about what's important to you, not anyone else.

Don't sell yourself short. You know as much as me if not more... And you gave good advice. I just had a slightly different perspective.

Like you, I have a preference for good prime lenses. But unless you're really specializing, you need to have some range in your lens or lens collection.
And in terms of cost benefit value analysis, it's hard to beat the Nikon 18-55 for $100. Even if you only use it when you need 18mm in good light. And if you outgrow the lens.. Switch to only primes... Upgrade to a 2.8 zoom, you can sell the 18-55 for $70-$100. So you have nothing to lose.
I used a kit lens for years till upgrading.
 
Thank you for all the input and information. Now I've got lots to chew on. I think I'm definitely leaning toward the D5300.
 
Personally, I would not buy any camera that didn't have Auto bracketing. Because I enjoy HDR.

I completely agree with this! Even if we are not interested in HDR, bracketing is still a good way to get the best exposure when lighting is tricky. I am surprised that some new dSLRs still do not have bracketing or that they only allow three (like most Canons).
 
I was forced to 'upgrade' my Nikon D40X, which I loved, when dear granddaughter took me out in the NJ surf with her boogie board last year as I was trying to capture her amazing ride! (Silly Grammy, having that camera in my hands when I was standing in the surf)!! Anyway, I researched long and hard, and ended up buying the D5300. I opted for the package with the 18-105 lens, which DOES make the camera heavier, but also works for the majority of my daily shots. I really like this camera. I like the built-in scene and effects modes, which are so easy to access. As with any Nikon or Canon camera, the pictures are sharp and crisp with great color. Battery life is good. The only trouble I have had with the 5300 is with shooting scrapbook pages for publication. I have an awful time squaring them up with this camera, which was NOT a problem with the D40X ever. I am not sure why this is, and am considering taking it in to have it checked. I have read that this camera has known bowing effect, and that I can somehow fix it in the camera. I am not anywhere near saavy enough to do this on my own!
When I go to WDW this fall, I will bring along my 70-200 lens, but will only carry that in AK for the safari rides. Other than that, the 18-105 will do the trick. I generally take about 1500 shots on a vacation.
I don't think you will be disappointed if you opt up for the 5300. I paid $997 then with the 18-105 lens, which they do not offer anymore. So the price has increased for buying it with the newer 18-140 lens, which has good reviews too.
Good luck!
 
Thank you SOOOOO much for asking this question! I've been debating over these cameras & am going to get a 5300 too. Thanks everyone!:thumbsup2
 
OP here. Just wanted to report back in. I settled on the 5300, but rather than just a single lens, I went with a kit that had both the 18-55 and 55-200. Found a good deal on Amazon and pulled the trigger. All that + bag, and "small" 16GB memory card for just about 1k.

So far, about 600 shots through the camera, and I'm really liking it. Takes a bit to get used to after shooting a P&S for years, but I think this is a wonderful camera. So many features to learn about. And only 2 weeks to go before the first Disney trip for this one.

I'm sure there will be more lenses in my future. Possibly some additional zooms, and definitely some prime glass...just not before this trip.

I'll be carrying this camera around my neck and my P&S in my pocket as backup.
 












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