LL/Cabins Dues Logic

[Patmcpsu]

Why would you say they’re not energy efficient?

Picture a regular hotel room; it only has one exterior wall (and it's a small wall). The other 3 walls are interior walls, where the temperature difference will only be a few degrees. And there would me minimal heat-loss through the floor/ceiling too.

Also, a regular hotel has mega-sized HVAC units that do everything. I assume The Cabins each have an individual, residential-grade heat pump. Same with hot water heaters, but I am just assuming.

 

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Picture a regular hotel room; it only has one exterior wall (and it's a small wall). The other 3 walls are interior walls, where the temperature difference will only be a few degrees. And there would me minimal heat-loss through the floor/ceiling too.

Also, a regular hotel has mega-sized HVAC units that do everything. I assume The Cabins each have an individual, residential-grade heat pump. Same with hot water heaters, but I am just assuming.

And many have multi story lobbies and corridors and stairwells ..... all needing to be climate controlled.

 

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@disneylandtour - The contemporary and the original Poly are all pre - fab ( built offsite) and they have lasted more than 50 years.

 

[Jlo85]

My analysis suggests that dues correlate with the square footage of the rooms less than the size of the property. So resorts with smaller rooms tend to charge less in dues per point (though they also tend to charge more points, in general). This I think is why Poly had higher dues than Grand Flo and Bay Lake - the larger studios.

This really is not true. I think it is hard to pin point a real reason as to what drives dues.
The closet examples are SSR (spread out low points) which is 19 years of dues current is for 2024 not 2025 yet the increase was 2.14 from start
BLT (tower high points) 15 years increased 2.07 I think it is easy to say the dues will surpass the increase % of SSR in 4 years.

Hard to use OKW as an example as it is 33 years old total is 3.93 since start I think it will be fairly easy for any resort to reach this % after 33 years.
BW has seeming done well however and also has a lower point chart I would suspect its more because of the lack of real common space at this resort as all the BW front is rentable and not exclusive to this resort.

 

[CarolynFH]

I agree that the current cabins will need replacement long before they’re 50 years old. The ones that were hauled away were about 25 years old (we stayed in a cabin in 1994, and they were replaced afterwards), and various posts on the construction threads gave me the impression that these new ones would have a similar life span. So I think that “saving up” for those replacement costs is included in the dues. I also think that housekeeping costs are higher, due to separation between units, so that contributes to higher dues too. So it will be interesting to see what the relationship between CFW and LSL turns out to be, both in terms of being linked as a single DVC entity or not as well as possible effects on dues.

 

[jimmymc]

Towers are cheaper to run and maintain than individual cabins when you divide the total cost by total points at the resort. And since a combined association would have the same dues for every room type, the tower's cheaper cost would bring the average price down.

There's no good comparison because no other resort is completely made up of individual buildings. Things like the copper creek cabins or SSR treehouses are a small percentage of capacity at those resorts and were built into the cost on opening day.