Little Girls in the Mens Room?

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While I think 8+ is old enough to use the restroom by themselves, in the OP's case there may have been other circumstances we dont't know about. What if the girl was only 5 or 6, but big for her age? What if she has special needs, and can't use the restroom alone for whatever reason? You just don't know what the circumstances are in every case.

My kids are (just turned) 6,6, and 4; and I will not let them use the restroom by themselves in public. Not only for the safety thing; but my kids are they types to skip washing hands or flushing the toilet if dh or I aren't right there. So for us it's a sanitary thing as much as a safety thing. :lmao:

There have been a few times my dh has taken the girls in the men's room when I'm not with them. To be honest, I don't give it a second thought. It's not going to scar them for life. ;) . We have a uni-sex bathroom at home and everything seems to turn out alright.:rotfl2:
 
As the mother of two sons, I'll continue to take them to the ladies' room with me when they need to use the restroom. The fact is that no matter how many times you tell a child to call for help, don't talk to strangers, etc., until a child is at least 10, he/she will panic if approached by someone and forget. Or if told, "if you scream, I'll kill you," a child cannot gauge the risk of actually being harmed; whether the attacker is telling the truth or not. Young children are highly gullible. They also lack foresight and cannot anticipate what may happen next. It's my job to protect my children from what they cannot imagine happening.

That is a broadbrush generalization. Many children (including myself) have reacted with clarity and purpose when confronted, with appropriate teaching/training.
 
Do I have a problem with kids of the opposite sex in bathrooms ?

1. Below a certain age No
2. A male child 10 or up YES . I have seen Moms take there Sons into a womens bathroom at Disney and make them Stand Outside the Stalls while they use them. So let me ask If YOUR NOT COMFORTABLE with your child IN THE STALL WITH YOU. Why should other women be comfortable with your children peeking through the cracks while you are utilizing the restroom. I have seen this and Have had this happen to me. And when I said something to the Mom about her son peeking through the door I was basically told not her problem.
3. I understand not wanting to leave them outside while you go in but unless its an emergency try to find a Family or Unisex bathroom.
4. I feel sorry for Single parents men ecspecially who have little girls who need to use the bathroom and have no choice but to take them into the mens room with them . They are most likely looked at like their weirdos when they do this. I know I work at a school and once went into the womens room and made sure it was clear so a single dad could take his 4 yr old daughter to use it he was worried someone would think he was taking her into there to harm her.
5. My point being children of certain ages Yes its fine . But DONT TAKE THEM IN THE BATHROOM UNLESS You are prepared to have them in the Stall with you then it shouldnt be a problem. After all if you are going to take them into the bathroom then you should be comfortable with them in the stall with you Women and Men I have had many a CHILD waiting for a Parent outside the Stall and PEEKING in through the cracks of the door or sticking there heads under the stalls because they find it amusing.

Other than that no matter what anyone says

A PARENT WILL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO KEEP THEIR CHILD FROM HARM , AND GOD HELP THE PERSON WHO TRYS TO STAND IN THAT PARENTS WAY.
ITS BASIC NATURE.
 
Sorry, I'm a Dad, though DD is only 5, here's how I will feel....

If she needs to use the bathroom - I would be perfectly fine taking her into the men's room with me to use a stall until she is about 10-11 years old. If at an earlier age she prefers going to the ladies room by herself, that will be fine too as long as there is only one entrance and exit, then I will wait outside for her. I would NEVER go into a ladies room as an adult male...

If I had to go to the bathroom and DW wasn't around, I would bring her in with me up to a certain age, probably again around 10. Aftet that, I would make her wait just outside but within earshot until she is at a "trustable" age...I can't tell you what age that might be.

I am not particularly worried about her being assaulted in the bathroom as I would be more worried about leaving her alone outside the bathroom and having her wander off.

Speaking of women in the men's room, I've been to several concerts where the line for the ladies room was so long, the women were going into the men's room to use the bathroom, right along with the men!

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I think I'm going to call my parents and thank them for letting me have the freedom to go potty all by myself as a child and allowing me to grow up to be an independent, well adjusted adult.
 
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the last time time that a reputable news source reported on an incident of an unaccompanied minor of either sex being assaulted in a WDW park restroom? Can anyone point to even one actual instance of this occurring? (And, no, "friend of friend" stories don't count.) With 40 million people passing through the parks every year, you would think that if this was really an issue, we'd hear more about it.
 
I was divorced when my girls were 6 and 8 and I'm quite certain that my EX has never taken them into the restroom with him. They traveled alot and went in strange bathrooms all over the country. The girls went in together and it was never an issue.

I really can't see that the bathrooms at Disney are such a dangerous place.
 
I might agree that no man would take offense on seeing a women walk in to the mans room with her little boy, but on the other hand as a father of three little girls if I walk into the laddies room with my girl to take her to the bathroom, I am pretty sure she would not be finnished before the whole security force and swatt team would be at the door waiting for us.

It is obvious than some people here giving opinions have no children.
 
I think I'm going to call my parents and thank them for letting me have the freedom to go potty all by myself as a child and allowing me to grow up to be an independent, well adjusted adult.

I second this. I can't remember ever not going into the bathroom alone. I bet I went to the bathroom alone around age 6 or so, just tall enough to reach the soap! :cutie:
 
This is interesting and it is easy to see both points of view. I have 2 sons who are 12 and 11. They have been using the men's room on their own since they were 5 and 6 or so. I make sure I am right outside the door- when they were younger and just started doing this I would ask if they were ok a few times and listen for a response so I knew they were fine. I can see taking your child into the restroom of the opposite sex up to a certain age- I would certainly have a problem if I saw a non-special needs child in the restroom at age 10 or so. I know my boys and husband would take issue with a 10-11-12 year old girl in the mens room while they were using the facilities. If you need assistance at Disney and are by yourself with a child of the opposite sex who is over 7 or so--what about finding a CM and explaining the situation and seeing if they would help. I would have no problem asking a mother with a tiny baby or grandparents if my children could sit next to them on the bench RIGHT OUTSIDE the restroom. But we are all different and do things differently. If I saw an older child in the restroom I would not say anything and walk off to find another one- or wait until they left- I know my boys and husband would do the same. I guess my view is at some point the kids need to be able to go potty without mom and dad right next to them. I know at age 7-8-9 my boys would have been mortified to walk into the ladies restroom. But each child is different as is each parent.

Now the man with his wife and daughter is another story....
 
There are no more 'creepy people' now than there were, but we live in a era of 24 hour wall to wall news and we are more aware, a lot was kept secret before.

Actually there are more "creepy people" now than there were 1 year ago... populations increase and accepting that X% of the population are perverted wierdos... the number of "creepy people" increases every day... that much is pretty much a logical fact.

Now since our planet isn't getting any larger, the second logical conclusion is that any non-creepy person today is closer to more creepy people today than he would have been 10 years ago or 50 years ago... simple logic.

What I find completely illogical is the guys on this board that somehow find it uncomfortable to have a little girl walk through the bathroom while your at a urinal... Are you so modest that you turn the lights off and get under the covers before taking your clothes off to sleep with your wife?

If the parents of the kids have no problem walking the kid through a bathroom you shouldn't either.

In a perfect Disney they would have more family bathrooms... unfortunately they don't. I've actually only come across them once in DHS and never seen one in MK....

And yes the odds of your child being a victim are low... but the odds of you winning a lottery are even lower and yet most of us have probably bought at least one lottery ticket in our lives... If you want to risk having your kids photo plastered on milk cartoons then be my guest have them wait outside while you go to the bathroom... and just remember cast memebers have been charged with touching in appropriately so even if no visitors to Disney are "creepy people" it doesn't mean the park doesn't have some in it.
 
And regarding the "family restrooms" at WDW, any time the subject has been brought up on the DIS, the disabled advocates jump in and say they are "companion restrooms" and are for disabled folks and their caregivers, and that they should be left available for *only* those individuals, not for able-bodied adults and children who can use the regular facilities.

Please respect the parenting choices of other parents. You don't know what situations have arisen in the past to warrant those choices.


It is not so much a "disabled advocate jumping in" but rather info printed in DISNEY's disabilities guidebooks.

From Disney's Guidebook for Disabilities(For MK):

Companion-assisted restroom facilities are located at all First Aid locations, as well as at:

Magic Kingdom® Park
Lower level of Cinderella's Royal Table
Mickey's Toontown Fair
Next to Space Mountain®
Pirates of the Caribbean
Splash Mountain
Transportation and Ticket Center East Gate


I think the Baby Care Center at MK has a "unisex" bathroom in it.
 
This is interesting and it is easy to see both points of view. I have 2 sons who are 12 and 11. They have been using the men's room on their own since they were 5 and 6 or so. I make sure I am right outside the door- when they were younger and just started doing this I would ask if they were ok a few times and listen for a response so I knew they were fine. I can see taking your child into the restroom of the opposite sex up to a certain age- I would certainly have a problem if I saw a non-special needs child in the restroom at age 10 or so. I know my boys and husband would take issue with a 10-11-12 year old girl in the mens room while they were using the facilities. If you need assistance at Disney and are by yourself with a child of the opposite sex who is over 7 or so--what about finding a CM and explaining the situation and seeing if they would help. I would have no problem asking a mother with a tiny baby or grandparents if my children could sit next to them on the bench RIGHT OUTSIDE the restroom. But we are all different and do things differently. If I saw an older child in the restroom I would not say anything and walk off to find another one- or wait until they left- I know my boys and husband would do the same. I guess my view is at some point the kids need to be able to go potty without mom and dad right next to them. I know at age 7-8-9 my boys would have been mortified to walk into the ladies restroom. But each child is different as is each parent.

Now the man with his wife and daughter is another story....

Just remember you don't know what a paedophile looks like... it could be the sweet little old lady... for all you know she uses that personna to abduct little girls that are sold into prostitution rings where she is the madam.... How often do family members molest kids and no one would have suspected until it happened... you can't tell if someone is good by how they look.
 
I second this. I can't remember ever not going into the bathroom alone. I bet I went to the bathroom alone around age 6 or so, just tall enough to reach the soap! :cutie:

Aye Aye!! I remember on one rare occasion when I was about 6 or 7 and I was out with my dad and I had to go to the bathroom- he asked some woman going into the ladies room if she would look after me while I did my thing. I felt so stupid and weird- she didn't come into the stall with me, obviously- but I didn't like strangers period and would have been more comfortable simply going in by myself.

Honestly- what can happen to your child at a WDW bathroom? 9 times out of 10 there is a CM in the bathroom refilling soap or picking up trash in there anyway. And it may not be obvious, but in my experience those CM's keep an extra eye on any children who appear to be by themselves.
 
And regarding the "family restrooms" at WDW, any time the subject has been brought up on the DIS, the disabled advocates jump in and say they are "companion restrooms" and are for disabled folks and their caregivers, and that they should be left available for *only* those individuals, not for able-bodied adults and children who can use the regular facilities.

Please respect the parenting choices of other parents. You don't know what situations have arisen in the past to warrant those choices.
Each time this subject comes up, I post asking people to consider their choices and leave the Companion Restrooms for people who don't have any other choices. I don't consider saying "please consider your choices" to be the same as saying that the Companion Restrooms (that is how they are labeled on the door) are only for people with disabilities.
I have posted this quite a few times in the past:

Even if your child was not disabled, there is no requirement that anyone be disabled to use the handicapped toilet stalls of the Companion Restroom. Like curb cuts and lower countertops at restaurants and shops, the handicapped stalls and Companion Restrooms are things that are meant to make things accessible for people with disabilities, but may also be useful for some people without disabilities.
While they are often the only restroom that people with certain disabilities (visible or invisible) can use, they are not reserved for people with disabilities. I always hope that people who have a choice of whether to use them or not realize that some people don't have a choice and that there are sometimes not enough to meet demands.


There are only about 6 Companion Restrooms in each park and some people don't have the choice of whether to use them or not. At MK, for example, the handicapped stalls in the ladies rooms look large, but are not big enough in most cases to get a wheelchair into the stall and close the door.
They are the only toilet (not the only restroom with many toilets) in some parks that some people with disabilities can use - some examples (I'm sure there are many others):
  • a mother with an older son who is autistic and is too old to comfortably come into the ladies room with her. Even if the child can physically care for himself in a regular stall, the regular bathroom may be too noisy/overstimulating.
  • someone who can't walk whose wheelchair doesn't fit into the regular handicapped stalls or doesn't fit into the stall in a way that alows them to transfer (so they can't leave it outside the stall and walk in)
  • someone, like my DD, who needs room for a wheelchair and a helper (even if she didn't need help, her wheelchair doesn't fit in many of the regular handicapped stalls)
  • an older man or woman who has to assist their spouse/SO who has had a stroke or other situation that makes assistance in the restroom necessary
  • someone with a colostomy or other need that makes being in a bathroom with a toilet and a sink necessary

If you have other choices, please consider them instead of the Companion Restroom and keep in mind that some people don't have any other choices.

I have also pointed out in the past that a single parent with a child of the opposite sex may look at their options, which may include taking a girl into the men's room or an older boy into the ladies room.
The best option for that person may be to use the Companion Restrooms.
Regarding the man in the bathroom with this wife and daughter who didn't speak English...

Not sure where they were from, but keep in mind that many countries have unisex bathrooms - there is no "men's room" or "women's room"...just bathrooms. It is this way in many office buildings, restaurants, etc. So, perhaps he was just doing what they always do and didn't think it was a big deal. As to his safety concerns, who knows. But to them, it may not have been out of the norm for all of them to be in the same bathroom and maybe they figured it wouldn't be a big deal?
I was in Europe for the first time and expected to see some unisex bathrooms - big rooms full of stalls that men or women could line up to use. The unisex bathrooms I found were actually much different than I expected. The entrance to the room, where the sinks were was unisex. But, in all the restrooms I was in, there was a separate rooms with stalls to one side for the men and to the other side for the women. Plus, the stalls in every European bathroom I was in (unisex or not) had stalls that were actually little rooms, with walls all the way from floor to ceiling and doors that covered the whole door opening with no gaps.
I can see that someone who is used to those types of bathrooms may be uncomfortable with the American bathrooms that seem pretty 'unprivate' in comparison. Knowing how 'unprivate' American bathrooms are, I can't see a man thinking it is OK for him to come in there, no matter what he is useed to.
Mike© said:
Just to add a little fact to this thread. Since the advent of the Assisted Bathroom, it is illegal to bring a child into a bathroom of the opposite sex. Possible actions that can be taken against the violator are arrest, fines and the removal of your child from your family by Child Services. This is why so many maintenace closets between bathrooms at WDW were converted to Assisted Bathrooms ( along with ADA compliance ).
I don't think that is correct and would want to see some proof.
My DH did have a situation that came up when he was out in the Mall of America with our DD, who is obviously disabled and needs assistance in the bathroom. He was taking her into the Family Bathroom (that was the way the door of that bathroom was labeled) when a woman stopped him and said she was calling security because he was a male taking a female into the bathroom by himself. He explained that she could not use the bathroom by herself and needed his assistance to get out of her wheelchair and do the tasks of toileting.
When DH came out, the woman was waiting with Security (the woman still ranting the whole time). The Security Guard asked DH a few questions about who he was related to DD and then apologized since it was obvious that DD could not use the toilet without assistance.
That is the extent of what happened (although DH makes sure that older Dd or I take younger DD in the bathroom now).
 
Actually there are more "creepy people" now than there were 1 year ago... populations increase and accepting that X% of the population are perverted wierdos... the number of "creepy people" increases every day... that much is pretty much a logical fact.

Now since our planet isn't getting any larger, the second logical conclusion is that any non-creepy person today is closer to more creepy people today than he would have been 10 years ago or 50 years ago... simple logic.

What I find completely illogical is the guys on this board that somehow find it uncomfortable to have a little girl walk through the bathroom while your at a urinal... Are you so modest that you turn the lights off and get under the covers before taking your clothes off to sleep with your wife?

If the parents of the kids have no problem walking the kid through a bathroom you shouldn't either.

In a perfect Disney they would have more family bathrooms... unfortunately they don't. I've actually only come across them once in DHS and never seen one in MK....

And yes the odds of your child being a victim are low... but the odds of you winning a lottery are even lower and yet most of us have probably bought at least one lottery ticket in our lives... If you want to risk having your kids photo plastered on milk cartoons then be my guest have them wait outside while you go to the bathroom... and just remember cast memebers have been charged with touching in appropriately so even if no visitors to Disney are "creepy people" it doesn't mean the park doesn't have some in it.

Paranoid, much?

Your rational also means that there are a higher number of good people watching out for kids. :) That would be crowds of them if you are talking about WDW.
 
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the last time time that a reputable news source reported on an incident of an unaccompanied minor of either sex being assaulted in a WDW park restroom? Can anyone point to even one actual instance of this occurring? (And, no, "friend of friend" stories don't count.) With 40 million people passing through the parks every year, you would think that if this was really an issue, we'd hear more about it.

Would you hear about it? Or would the Disney lawyers pay off the victims so quickly it would make your head swim... frankly I think Disney can accept someone becoming worm food on a roller coaster and not see any big drop in visitors... but you have one story about a kid getting raped in a restroom and you'll see people canceling their trips....

The odds are that things have happened in the restroom, but most likely it has been swept quickly and quietly under the rug.
 
I can understand wanting to bring your young child of the opposite sex into the bathroom with you. But you also need to understand that I don't want your child peaking at me thru the cracks in the stall doors. So either take your child into the stall with you, or make them stand facing your stall door, so that the rest of us have our privacy. It is not like those doors are solid, you can easily see into the stall if you care to look. Be courteous about it, and you won't get so many dirty looks.
 
Paranoid, much?

Your rational also means that there are a higher number of good people watching out for kids. :) That would be crowds of them if you are talking about WDW.

Not paranoid.. just realistic.

And how many times does a crowd of people watch while a violent crime happens and no one does anything... I'll keep the photos of my kids in our scrap books... if you want to have your kids on the milk cartons that's your business.
 
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