Little Couple


Just love Jen and Bill. I am so glad Jen is doing well. I read that it was a tough transition for Zoey, but she has been blessed with two wonderful parents. So happy for all of them!
 
What a great episode! It's been so great to follow them and their journey. I felt so bad for Zoey, you could just feel the anxiety and the stress. She kept looking at the cameras and I think that they were really scaring her, more so than the changes in people and surroundings. I loved that the people at the orphanage said her personality was 'moody'! It melted my heart to see Jenn able to hold and comfort her in a way that she couldn't will Will, and you could tell it meant the world to her. Also, they've always been calm, sensitive people, but it was amazing to watch them keep composure with Zoey, and understanding how it takes time and not to take offensive. Stronger than I would be I'm sure. Just beautiful, all of it.
 
I thought jen seemed strangely awkward with Zoe ( have thought it about how she is with Will before too) I never saw her holding Zoe towards her instead of facing out which looked way less comforting and protective.

She also didn't really talk to her in a soothing voice either. She just seemed so stiff.

Will was the cutest boy ever meeting Zoe
 
I thought jen seemed strangely awkward with Zoe ( have thought it about how she is with Will before too) I never saw her holding Zoe towards her instead of facing out which looked way less comforting and protective.

She also didn't really talk to her in a soothing voice either. She just seemed so stiff.

Will was the cutest boy ever meeting Zoe

I think you have to remember Jennifer was not feeling well at the time, so I'm sure that accounted for the stiffness, but at the end of the episode, all 4 of them were in bed together and Zoey was laying on her chest/shoulder sleeping.
 
Carina said:
I thought jen seemed strangely awkward with Zoe ( have thought it about how she is with Will before too) I never saw her holding Zoe towards her instead of facing out which looked way less comforting and protective.

She also didn't really talk to her in a soothing voice either. She just seemed so stiff.

Will was the cutest boy ever meeting Zoe

I think that's just kinda her personality with kids. Some ppl. have a very nurturing/parenting automatic response with any/all kids and some ppl. just seem awkward with even their own kids. I've always thought she seems almost nervous and unsure of herself when she's dealing with Will. That's not to say anything negative about her; I think she's great and she always tries very hard; I just don't think it comes as naturally to her. My step-mom was kinda like that but she had only good intentions and had lots of love for us, just as I'm sure Jen does.
 
I thought jen seemed strangely awkward with Zoe ( have thought it about how she is with Will before too) I never saw her holding Zoe towards her instead of facing out which looked way less comforting and protective.

She also didn't really talk to her in a soothing voice either. She just seemed so stiff.

Will was the cutest boy ever meeting Zoe

She strikes me as the type who puts a lot of thought into how other people feel and what will be most helpful/comforting to others, even if she has to shove her feelings aside. She was clearly very emotional about beginning with each child, yet really held back to take her cues from them so not to overwhelm and singlemindedly go after what she wanted from the experience right that moment. She was very invested in her little girl long before being in the same room with her & probably would have wished her DD would have looked up, seen her and held out her arms to be held by mom. That didn't happen & she contented herself with tiny steps and gestures, sort of like trying to get a bird to eat from your hand.
 
I thought jen seemed strangely awkward with Zoe ( have thought it about how she is with Will before too) I never saw her holding Zoe towards her instead of facing out which looked way less comforting and protective.

She also didn't really talk to her in a soothing voice either. She just seemed so stiff.

Will was the cutest boy ever meeting Zoe

I don't think I that's fair to make assumptions!!! The poor thing was sick with what we now know was cancer!
She was also stressed as was the poor little girl! Sometimes babies need to be held tight and sometimes they don't! And this little one isn't a baby! I used to watch my girlfriends little boy and he was soo attached to mommy! I wound have loved to love on him but he calmed down and did better if I held him facing away from me and didn't look him in the eye when I rocked him to sleep!
So, so much going on and we only see a snippet of time and you're reading into that?
 
She strikes me as the type who puts a lot of thought into how other people feel and what will be most helpful/comforting to others, even if she has to shove her feelings aside. She was clearly very emotional about beginning with each child, yet really held back to take her cues from them so not to overwhelm and singlemindedly go after what she wanted from the experience right that moment. She was very invested in her little girl long before being in the same room with her & probably would have wished her DD would have looked up, seen her and held out her arms to be held by mom. That didn't happen & she contented herself with tiny steps and gestures, sort of like trying to get a bird to eat from your hand.

Thank you - you said this more eloquently than I did.
 
Thank you - you said this more eloquently than I did.

I don't have a lot of experience with this show. I really started watching when they began with their little boy after my DD told me she liked them. I do, too.

I'm a huge reality show cynic/skeptic. For this show I honestly believe if somebody attempts to burst my happy little bubble about them I might actually stick my fingers in my ears and la, la, la to their face. I was tearing up when they went in the room and were face to face with their daughter for the first time.

I think maybe we need to consider that with their little boy Jen was pretty much precluded from the start from doing many things we think we would do as the adoptive parent because he was just too large for her to handle. I think that's part of the more dominant bond father and son share, which is lovely. I'm sure that's a disappointment she's faced time and time again in life because of her disability, however that had to prick right down to her soul. I'm sure last night a piece of her was wanting to snatch up her little girl from the women at the orphanage and snuggle with her to her heart's content. At least this go round she's getting to indulge those maternal urges a bit more. I wish this family the very best.
 
Remember too, that Jen is a neo-natologist and in that I am sure she has had to develop a bit of a detached personality towards kids. I thought she was doing a great job of putting Zoe's needs above hers. I am quite sure, given the lengths she and Bill have gone through to adopt her, all Jen wanted to do was to scoop Zoe up and never let go. She also realized that would freak her little girl out so she did what she thought best for Zoe.

I loved watching last night and I am so glad Jen is doing well. If Will gets any cuter I won't be able to stand it!
 
When you adopt a baby/child internationally, you take your cues from them. Remember, they are leaving all they have ever known. Everything (including their new parents) looks different, tastes different, smells different, sounds different, etc. The new parents are nothing like what they are used to. It's as if they have been plopped on another planet and it overwhelms them.

I learned some Russian before we adopted DD, when she was less than a year old. She did not seem to like me speaking Russian....maybe my accent wasn't up to par. :lmao: I figured that out quickly and switched to English, which she began parroting back immediately. I followed her cues.

We got to London and wanted to take her to a famous toy store there, which is huge....something like 6-7 stories. Anything she wanted, we were happy to buy. She wanted NOTHING. She wasn't used to lots of toys. We didn't force it.

She had never ridden in a car, except perhaps when she was moved from the hospital to the baby home as a newborn. That first car ride was overwhelming and it probably overwhelmed Zoey.

Jen has one thing working against her that I did not have. I could hold my DD, resting her on my hip and let her cling to me all she wanted. Jen simply isn't built for that. She has to improvise.

Part of adopting children from orphanages is understanding that they are overwhelmed and on sensory overload. You have to follow their lead and usually, they adapt very quickly. But you can't force it. It needs to be on their terms.
 
I don't think I that's fair to make assumptions!!! The poor thing was sick with what we now know was cancer!
She was also stressed as was the poor little girl! Sometimes babies need to be held tight and sometimes they don't! And this little one isn't a baby! I used to watch my girlfriends little boy and he was soo attached to mommy! I wound have loved to love on him but he calmed down and did better if I held him facing away from me and didn't look him in the eye when I rocked him to sleep!
So, so much going on and we only see a snippet of time and you're reading into that?

Yep, and I don't think ending every sentence of your reply with an exclamation point (or several) is going to change my mind. why not just type in all caps? :sad2:

I wasn't trying to start an argument - I certainly so no point of you defending Jen like she is your BFF.

I am certain I am allowed to think she looked awkward and stilted with Zoe ( thought it about Will at the time too) without someone needed to jump down my throat - although this is the DIS so no surprise.

I never said she is a bad mom, or that I wasn't happy for them, I just don't think nurturing comes smoothly to her, if I did I would have seen her soothing that baby in a different way!

I am entitled to my opinion, especially since they put very private things on TV for everyone to see.
 


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