Line etiquette

[Ms_Butterfly]

That's sad that adults would push in front of a child to watch a parade. I know there are adults that will go stand right in front of a person in a wheelchair to watch a parade! SOOO rude!!

It is one thing if you have to leave a line because of a bathroom absolute emergency that cannot wait until after the ride. It is another thing and is bad if you never were in line and sent somebody ahead in the line to hold your space so you can join them later (whether for a bathroom visit or any other reason).

 

[EnnEss]

That's sad that adults would push in front of a child to watch a parade. I know there are adults that will go stand right in front of a person in a wheelchair to watch a parade! SOOO rude!!

Ive seen hundreds of people line cutting, probably every trip. Its not something I really do anything about as I'd get pretty worked up if I did, I dont care if someone else does though either.

With the parade thing, I really do think it happens a lot more that kids push to the front are pushed to the front then the other way around. Ive never seen an adult do it, though I dont question that it does happen. However, we often wait for parades and sit down, my gf really likes them. She sometimes waits on her own as I go crazy sitting for so long, and I watch from the back when it starts. Every single time Ive waited with her though there have been kids either pushed in front or even between us as we sit on the curb. I generally dont move. Im sitting, ive been there a long time, its hot. The kid just got there, with me sitting most kids can see over me if they stand and I never had difficulty standing and walking as a kid (did kids all of a sudden get physically weak in 15 years, myself and everyone I knew had energy for days when I was that young). Again I dont ever say anything (im pretty confrontational generally, I try and take it easy on vacation), but I don't move. I usually try to make eye contact with the parent and then the kid, thats about it. Its pretty obvious Im not moving because i just ignore people that do this. If they dont figure it out it almost always ends with a cm telling the kids to get off the road as there is nowhere else they can go if they want to be in front of me. Im not sure i can agree in any way with pps that think kids should get preference in this situation.

 

[BostonRob]

Your inconvenience of being out of line and needing to get back to where you started was neither caused by me nor should it become my issue.

But apparently you'll make it your issue by physically blocking me from returning to my place in line?
Get over it. Why do you feel the need to create such conflict? Let a guy get back to his family.

 

[BostonRob]

Sorry you feel this way...it is just part of the rules that are part of everyday life at every theme park on the face of the earth...I teach my children we must not cut line for any reason (because Walt says so in his list of "rules" ), I expect others to do the same. No disrespect intended, I just think if you teach your children to break or bend the rules to your liking, they will never know where to draw the line. By the way...sorry about the "pee-pee" talk...some people are just not getting the rules so I thought I would explain it in easier to understand terms

WHAT RULES? Where are these rules that people keep talking about? I've never seen a printed set of rules that says "if for ANY reason part of your group needs to leave the line, you cannot return" Maybe such a rule exists - if so, please enlighten me. IBecause I'll tell you, honestly, I don't think I've ever left a line to go to the bathroom, but I'm arguing this position because of the absurdity I keep reading.
Oh, and you don't have to worry about what I teach my children, but since you're so curious, I will let you know that I certaintly don't teach them to enforce some 3rd party's rules against a random 4th party.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Wow....now I now which of you are the truly rude ones and which actually have the Disney spirit! Walt would be SO disappointed in many of you.

I agree...he WOULD be disappointed to see line cutting people take advantage of those who waited their turn so patiently....and those that think their children should be handed a front row seat without being taught to wait patiently for it....COMPLETELY agree.

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

But apparently you'll make it your issue by physically blocking me from returning to my place in line?
Get over it. Why do you feel the need to create such conflict? Let a guy get back to his family.

And you did exactly what I pointed out in that whole big post. You quoted a small part of the entire post I made to make it seem like I was saying something I wasn't.

Nice try on twisting things to argue even more in the thread.

I invite you to read and respond to each section of my post as a whole. If you find that task impossible then I think you've lost your credibility and purpose behind what you're saying.

Please point out in my post where I stated I was going to physically block anyone from anything. The simple fact that this is all you drew from my post indicates to me that you have no desire to understand other peoples issue with this whole problem. My post points out a general idea that you clearly don't want to understand.

I did point out that you wouldn't want to yell up in my face... but of course for anyone reading this thread that would be in response to you telling everyone that you were going to throw a fit when someone stopped you from cutting in the line.

You sir are who creates the conflict. Why do you need to fight the lines? Why not goto the CM and avoid pushing back into the lines to the point that you run into people who tired of line cutters? Just as in this thread.... You can't avoid conflict. You want to argue that just because you think what you are doing is okay that everyone else should just step back out of your way and shut their mouths.

If you avoid the conflict by being responsible and asking a CM to get you to your place in line with out disrupting the rest of the guests who are also trying to enjoy time with their families then there is no conflict.

I suggest you get over it and either deal with the situation in a mature way or learn to live with the problems you cause yourself.

You create the problem by leaving the line and by not wanting to avoid conflict when you return which can cause the issue to become even bigger. If you need to leave the line then it is you (being that no one else left the line) that should work with a bit of effort to avoid any and all problems related to your actions. Doesn't matter what your reason. Accept responsibility and be mature about the whole issue.

Have respect for others in the park and ask a CM to allow you to enter the line and regain a position with your family. Problem solved and no conflict arises.

I'm positive you didn't read the whole post from top to bottom because if you had you might have gotten not only to the common sense part.. but the part that said - Disclaimer: If you choose to quote something I stated above I ask that you quote the entire post and bold out the portion you have a problem with. This will avoid my comments being taken out of context. Thank you.

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

WHAT RULES? Where are these rules that people keep talking about? I've never seen a printed set of rules that says "if for ANY reason part of your group needs to leave the line, you cannot return" Maybe such a rule exists - if so, please enlighten me. IBecause I'll tell you, honestly, I don't think I've ever left a line to go to the bathroom, but I'm arguing this position because of the absurdity I keep reading.
Oh, and you don't have to worry about what I teach my children, but since you're so curious, I will let you know that I certaintly don't teach them to enforce some 3rd party's rules against a random 4th party.

So you don't know how lines work? Is this where the root of the problem for you is?

Maybe we should remove the chains and poles. Because with what your saying they have no purpose in the lines either.

By the way there isn't a rule about sticking your tongue out a people either. But most people understand the concept of whats right, wrong and rude. Do you need a written rule book for everything society has in place as standard courtesy to know whats right and wrong?

 

[perkinsrose]

Don't cut. If you have a reason to move to the front of the line I'm sure a CM will be happy to help you.

If you come up and start yelling in my face, again I'm sure a CM will be happy to help you. Yelling at me won't change the simple fact that if you have a reason to be doing what you're doing you can go about it the proper way and talk to a CM to get you back in your place.

If you try to step in front of my family or children at a parade or other place that we have shown up and waited for prior to your arrival then again find a CM. You won't find space in front of us.

Not happening.

No one who needs to move forward needs to explain themselves to me because they should not need to push past me. If you have a legit reason to move to the front of the line then you should have no issues speaking to a CM about it. Your inconvenience of being out of line and needing to get back to where you started was neither caused by me nor should it become my issue. SPEAK TO A CM Yelling at me because of an issue YOU created is unacceptable in any situation and makes me wonder how well you really thought out your response. I can assure you that in any case you wouldn't find yourself wanting to yell up in my face

If you follow that simple idea there will be no problem and others won't need to worry about your situation. No need to consider people rude because you feel you are above the concept of lines. Lines are in place to maintain a sense of order. If you feel you are above that simple concept and feel you don't need to go about things the proper way to get back to your place in line, then who really has the problem?

If you want to maintain some order, keep things calm and happy then do things the right way and SPEAK TO A CM. Every situation can be handled without threatening to yell or throw fits in a place like WDW.

There is no place in this world for people be upset at me or consider ME rude because I'm questioning why they are moving past others in a line. I'm standing in line following the basic rules. If you are pushing past us, you are the one disrupting the rules. Even if you feel you are obligated and have the right to break the rules you can again see a CM. Speaking with a CM will assure that no one will be concerned or worry the potential idea that you are trying to cut because you will have gone about correcting the issue the proper way.

Again let me be clear - Your inconvenience of being out of line and needing to get back to where you started was neither caused by me nor should it become my issue on ANY level. This is not about you proving to me your legit reason for leaving and coming back to the line. This is about why I have to be put in a place that I'm having to question it in the first place. Just remove that entire inconvenience to everyone and speak with a CM. If you need to leave the line then do what you need to do and get back in line the proper way.

I love Disney and my entire family is all about spreading the Disney cheer. I'm not out to Judge others but why put people in a place that in turn causes them to need to justify judging your intentions. This isn't a debate for me about you being allowed to go to the bathroom or to gain access to your family again. I'm not asking to see proof of a medical issue. Nothing that I'm saying here is about me telling people what they can and can't do. Nor am I telling you that you shouldn't be allowed to to rejoin your family after you leave the line for WHAT EVER REASON..... I'm simply saying why not avoid conflict and issues by speaking to a CM and having then allow you access back to your place in line. What makes it ok for someone to invalidate the concept of a line? Who is the right person to decided that? Certainly not me, so why put me in that position in the first place? Go to a CM, have them lead your to place and everyone will be happy . I'm not wrong for standing and staying in line. I'm not wrong for wondering why you are trying to move past me in the very same line. This by it's very nature is the purpose of a line. People stand behind one another in order of arrival in order to gain entrance to a specific location. If someone passes us in the line without a good reason it brings into question why anyone should have to stand in line. So by stopping you from passing according to some I'm in the wrong. Also asking what you are doing is also according to some wrong.

Isn't cutting in line sometimes wrong? Should we just let everyone push through the line and question nothing. Please tell me that this really isn't what you're getting at. If thats the solution, to not worry about it and just let people pass.... EVERYONE on this board and at WDW knows where that would lead. If people will cut in front of children to greet characters and get a good seat at a parade what on earth has you convinced that people wouldn't abuse the good nature of people?

Why is the idea hard to understand that while YOU might not be doing anything wrong it doesn't mean that OTHERS might not be. Those are the people the real issue is about. Everyone who has issues with this whole concept has been trying to explain that. It's not about the people who have real reasons. It's about the people that don't have legit reasons and make everything hard on all of us. And in that most of the people who have expressed dismay with our opinions regarding line cutting have been trying to defend line cutters who are cutting with reasons that don't apply to the problem.

And please as you're reading this thread don't be offended when someone calls you a line cutter. Even if you have what most call a legitimate reason by definition you are still a line cutter. If you speed to the hospital because someone is hurt and you are taking them to the hospital it doesn't make you wrong but you are still a speeder. I think thats also where some of the anger and stress of this thread is coming from.

Just because you have a legitimate reason doesn't mean someone else does. You're not wrong but not understanding that others are makes the issue worse. So if you can be responsible and understanding enough to ask a CM for assistance then NO ONE would need to push through the lines and there would NEVER be a question about the issue.

I have three kids. So I understand and have been in the situations that require leaving line and attempting to return we found a CM and had them lead us around to drop a chain and allow access in a safer manner the rest of the family

Asking someone consider EVERYONE IN THE LINE above whatever issue has driven them out of the line and to take the safer, simpler and less conflicting action isn't outside the Disney spirit. It's common sense.

You might even find the route the CM's have open for to rejoin your family you is easier and safer for all involved.

"Reckless line Vigilantism" shouldn't be your first thought as you push forward past others waiting in a crowded long line. Visiting a CM to gain access back to the spot you left for whatever reason should be.



Disclaimer: If you choose to quote something I stated above I ask that you quote the entire post and bold out the portion you have a problem with. This will avoid my comments being taken out of context. Thank you.

a voice of reason!

 

[BostonRob]

And you did exactly what I pointed out in that whole big post. You quoted a small part of the entire post I made to make it seem like I was saying something I wasn't.

Nice try on twisting things to argue even more in the thread.

I invite you to read and respond to each section of my post as a whole.

No thanks. I read the whole post. I'll respond to whatever parts of your post I choose. And despite not following your instructions, I don't believe taking that comment out of context changed its meaning in any way. You ARE making this your problem, whether it actually happens in the park or whether its just for argument purposes here.

I get your point about me being the one who's creating conflict by not following the "rules of the line" and there's a lot of truth to that, but my point is that the behavior I'm discussion doesn't violate the rules of the line. And let me try to clear something up again - I don't do this. I don't leave lines, then try to come back. The whole reason I got involved in this argument was that I was disturbed by people who said they'd form a blockade for anybody who tried to get by. Maybe you're not a blockader and maybe I'm not a person who tries to get by, but here we are, having this argument.

I do understand how a line works. And I was always taught that if somebody's been waiting in line, and they need to leave the line, the polite thing to do is to let them back in line. I guess you don't agree with that.

 

[BostonRob]

So you don't know how lines work? Is this where the root of the problem for you is?

Maybe we should remove the chains and poles. Because with what your saying they have no purpose in the lines either.

By the way there isn't a rule about sticking your tongue out a people either. But most people understand the concept of whats right, wrong and rude. Do you need a written rule book for everything society has in place as standard courtesy to know whats right and wrong?

Aha. "Standard courtesy" - that's an interesting choice of words by somebody who's ignoring what I understand to be a standard courtesy. if somebody has to step out of line for a minute, the courteous thing to do is to let them back in - that's standard courtesy. But as I understand it, you don't want to extand standard courtesy to anybody while you're in WDW. If anybody's looking for standard courtesy, they've got to go get it from a CM. Is that the gist of your argument?

 

[BamaFan121s]

It's a line. You wait in it, from beginning to end. The rules apply to everyone. It's really that simple.

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

No thanks. I read the whole post. I'll respond to whatever parts of your post I choose. And despite not following your instructions, I don't believe taking that comment out of context changed its meaning in any way. You ARE making this your problem, whether it actually happens in the park or whether its just for argument purposes here.

I get your point about me being the one who's creating conflict by not following the "rules of the line" and there's a lot of truth to that, but my point is that the behavior I'm discussion doesn't violate the rules of the line. And let me try to clear something up again - I don't do this. I don't leave lines, then try to come back. The whole reason I got involved in this argument was that I was disturbed by people who said they'd form a blockade for anybody who tried to get by. Maybe you're not a blockader and maybe I'm not a person who tries to get by, but here we are, having this argument.

I do understand how a line works. And I was always taught that if somebody's been waiting in line, and they need to leave the line, the polite thing to do is to let them back in line. I guess you don't agree with that.

If you only want to pick and choose the single lines of my comments then your point as far as I'm concerned is MOOT. You haven't taken the time to understand the bigger picture as it relates to EVERYONE involved.

If people used the CMs to regain access to the line when they leave for whatever reason there would be no conflict. There is nothing written by me that says don't allow families to leave the line and rejoin.

It simply says why make an issue out of the manner in which you get back in the line.

Not wanting to find a middle ground (that would be the part where people don't cut in line AND still get back in line) is where the issue lies.

Why wouldn't you want to keep things simple and conflict free by using this method?

 

[3girls4me05]

I've only scanned this thread and probably only read about half the posts. I just want to say that I will be celebrating my 50th birthday at WDW next month. In my 50 years, I have raised 4 children (too many WDW trips over the years to even keep count of), and in the last few years, taken 3 grandchildren to WDW a total of 8 times. On each trip there has almost always been at least one incident when some child in our group needed to leave a line for an emergency potty break. That's life as a parent and grandparent and we did what we needed to do, which was that we ALL left the line as a group and ALL re-entered it as a group.

Still, I always allow a parent with a small child to cut in front of me to rejoin their group after their potty break, but if I make a silent mental judgment about their parenting skills, that is my right as well. While my children and grandchildren are certainly all special to me, I don't want to teach them that they are more specail or entitled than any other child. If others choose to think that I'm a mean parent because of my choices, I'm fine with that too.

The interesting thing about my parenting choice is that in my 30 years as a parent, and with 4 kids and 3 grandkids, they ALL so far, by the age of about 8, were capable of knowing to go to the potty before we entered a line.

First of all I am glad to know that you let a parent back in. I am sad to see you judge that parent though. Good for you that you made everyone leave a line when one had to go potty. I think that is a little much and punishing my other children for having a mom who has "potty issues" sometimes. Believe me their plans get change often enough at home (we are all buckled in to the car and ready to go and then mommy has to run for it). I also have a two yr old who I was not going to train till after our trip. Guess who trumped Mommy last week and trained herself? So we will make frequent potty breaks and try not to have to leave line to go. But if we do then I would hope I would receive kindness and understanding and not judging if we try to rejoin our family. But perhaps I expect too much of people.

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

Aha. "Standard courtesy" - that's an interesting choice of words by somebody who's ignoring what I understand to be a standard courtesy. if somebody has to step out of line for a minute, the courteous thing to do is to let them back in - that's standard courtesy. But as I understand it, you don't want to extand standard courtesy to anybody while you're in WDW. If anybody's looking for standard courtesy, they've got to go get it from a CM. Is that the gist of your argument?

Hey BostonRob, since you like to keep ignoring the rest of that post I made back there.. let me help you out here again.....

Asking someone consider EVERYONE IN THE LINE above whatever issue has driven them out of the line and to take the safer, simpler and less conflicting action isn't outside the Disney spirit. It's common sense.

You might even find the route the CM's have open for to rejoin your family you is easier and safer for all involved.

"Reckless line Vigilantism" shouldn't be your first thought as you push forward past others waiting in a crowded long line. Visiting a CM to gain access back to the spot you left for whatever reason should be.

Now please twist the nonsense a little more. . I'm still trying to find the part where i said people shouldn't be allowed to join their family in line.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

WHAT RULES? Where are these rules that people keep talking about? I've never seen a printed set of rules that says "if for ANY reason part of your group needs to leave the line, you cannot return" Maybe such a rule exists - if so, please enlighten me. IBecause I'll tell you, honestly, I don't think I've ever left a line to go to the bathroom, but I'm arguing this position because of the absurdity I keep reading.
Oh, and you don't have to worry about what I teach my children, but since you're so curious, I will let you know that I certaintly don't teach them to enforce some 3rd party's rules against a random 4th party.

Oh believe me...I am FAR from worried what you teach your children...what is important to me is that I teach MY children the rules of society and to obey rules at a given location. As far as "THE RULES"...do me a favor, next time you are at WDW go to guest services and ask if you are allowed to leave a line and return OR have a member of your party get in line and the rest join them later...I bet you get the same answer I have given you. Again, it is a common sense, given "rule" at any theme park on the face of the earth. I am SURE it is in writing someplace in each park...whether it be a pamphlet, a sign, etc. Personally, I have never actually looked for one because I do not have any intention of being a line cutter for any reason. Although I think it is okay to leave with a child who is potty training and return, I have never done so...if someone has to potty, we all get out of line and return to the end of the line when we are finished...I am not going to make 50 children (and adults, for that matter) angry at me and my family...WDW IS the Happiest Place on Earth....right???

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

I highlighted a few select spots you missed last time.

Don't cut. If you have a reason to move to the front of the line I'm sure a CM will be happy to help you.

If you come up and start yelling in my face, again I'm sure a CM will be happy to help you. Yelling at me won't change the simple fact that if you have a reason to be doing what you're doing you can go about it the proper way and talk to a CM to get you back in your place.

If you try to step in front of my family or children at a parade or other place that we have shown up and waited for prior to your arrival then again find a CM. You won't find space in front of us.

Not happening.

No one who needs to move forward needs to explain themselves to me because they should not need to push past me. If you have a legit reason to move to the front of the line then you should have no issues speaking to a CM about it. Your inconvenience of being out of line and needing to get back to where you started was neither caused by me nor should it become my issue. SPEAK TO A CM Yelling at me because of an issue YOU created is unacceptable in any situation and makes me wonder how well you really thought out your response. I can assure you that in any case you wouldn't find yourself wanting to yell up in my face

If you follow that simple idea there will be no problem and others won't need to worry about your situation. No need to consider people rude because you feel you are above the concept of lines. Lines are in place to maintain a sense of order. If you feel you are above that simple concept and feel you don't need to go about things the proper way to get back to your place in line, then who really has the problem?

If you want to maintain some order, keep things calm and happy then do things the right way and SPEAK TO A CM. Every situation can be handled without threatening to yell or throw fits in a place like WDW.

There is no place in this world for people be upset at me or consider ME rude because I'm questioning why they are moving past others in a line. I'm standing in line following the basic rules. If you are pushing past us, you are the one disrupting the rules. Even if you feel you are obligated and have the right to break the rules you can again see a CM. Speaking with a CM will assure that no one will be concerned or worry the potential idea that you are trying to cut because you will have gone about correcting the issue the proper way.

Again let me be clear - Your inconvenience of being out of line and needing to get back to where you started was neither caused by me nor should it become my issue on ANY level. This is not about you proving to me your legit reason for leaving and coming back to the line. This is about why I have to be put in a place that I'm having to question it in the first place. Just remove that entire inconvenience to everyone and speak with a CM. If you need to leave the line then do what you need to do and get back in line the proper way.

I love Disney and my entire family is all about spreading the Disney cheer. I'm not out to Judge others but why put people in a place that in turn causes them to need to justify judging your intentions. This isn't a debate for me about you being allowed to go to the bathroom or to gain access to your family again. I'm not asking to see proof of a medical issue. Nothing that I'm saying here is about me telling people what they can and can't do. Nor am I telling you that you shouldn't be allowed to to rejoin your family after you leave the line for WHAT EVER REASON..... I'm simply saying why not avoid conflict and issues by speaking to a CM and having then allow you access back to your place in line. What makes it ok for someone to invalidate the concept of a line? Who is the right person to decided that? Certainly not me, so why put me in that position in the first place? Go to a CM, have them lead your to place and everyone will be happy . I'm not wrong for standing and staying in line. I'm not wrong for wondering why you are trying to move past me in the very same line. This by it's very nature is the purpose of a line. People stand behind one another in order of arrival in order to gain entrance to a specific location. If someone passes us in the line without a good reason it brings into question why anyone should have to stand in line. So by stopping you from passing according to some I'm in the wrong. Also asking what you are doing is also according to some wrong.

Isn't cutting in line sometimes wrong? Should we just let everyone push through the line and question nothing. Please tell me that this really isn't what you're getting at. If thats the solution, to not worry about it and just let people pass.... EVERYONE on this board and at WDW knows where that would lead. If people will cut in front of children to greet characters and get a good seat at a parade what on earth has you convinced that people wouldn't abuse the good nature of people?

Why is the idea hard to understand that while YOU might not be doing anything wrong it doesn't mean that OTHERS might not be. Those are the people the real issue is about. Everyone who has issues with this whole concept has been trying to explain that. It's not about the people who have real reasons. It's about the people that don't have legit reasons and make everything hard on all of us. And in that most of the people who have expressed dismay with our opinions regarding line cutting have been trying to defend line cutters who are cutting with reasons that don't apply to the problem.

And please as you're reading this thread don't be offended when someone calls you a line cutter. Even if you have what most call a legitimate reason by definition you are still a line cutter. If you speed to the hospital because someone is hurt and you are taking them to the hospital it doesn't make you wrong but you are still a speeder. I think thats also where some of the anger and stress of this thread is coming from.

Just because you have a legitimate reason doesn't mean someone else does. You're not wrong but not understanding that others are makes the issue worse. So if you can be responsible and understanding enough to ask a CM for assistance then NO ONE would need to push through the lines and there would NEVER be a question about the issue.

I have three kids. So I understand and have been in the situations that require leaving line and attempting to return we found a CM and had them lead us around to drop a chain and allow access in a safer manner the rest of the family

Asking someone consider EVERYONE IN THE LINE above whatever issue has driven them out of the line and to take the safer, simpler and less conflicting action isn't outside the Disney spirit. It's common sense.

You might even find the route the CM's have open for to rejoin your family you is easier and safer for all involved.

"Reckless line Vigilantism" shouldn't be your first thought as you push forward past others waiting in a crowded long line. Visiting a CM to gain access back to the spot you left for whatever reason should be.



Disclaimer: If you choose to quote something I stated above I ask that you quote the entire post and bold out the portion you have a problem with. This will avoid my comments being taken out of context. Thank you.

 

[BostonRob]

If you only want to pick and choose the single lines of my comments then your point as far as I'm concerned is MOOT. You haven't taken the time to understand the bigger picture as it relates to EVERYONE involved.

If people used the CMs to regain access to the line when they leave for whatever reason there would be no conflict. There is nothing written by me that says don't allow families to leave the line and rejoin.

It simply says why make an issue out of the manner in which you get back in the line.

Not wanting to find a middle ground (that would be the part where people don't cut in line AND still get back in line) is where the issue lies.

Why wouldn't you want to keep things simple and conflict free by using this method?

OK, let me try it this way. My first response to this part of this thread was to a person who was concerned by other posters who were advocating line blockades. The poster was concerned that if he/she had to leave line to go to the bathroom, he/she wouldn't be let back in.

I do understand your bigger picture and it makes the most sense out of anything else in this thread except for one important thing - it completely ignores reality. The reality is that there will always be people who leave line, expecting to get back in. Whether they were adults who didn't plan properly or whether they were adults who hve irratable bowel syndrome or whatever else they may be - it doesn't make a difference. The reality is that these people exist and that expect the same courtesy they would give - to let somebody back in line. These aren't people who should be blockaded from their families.

Yes, it would be a wonderful world if everybudy stayed in line from beginning to end, or alternatively, got a CM to assist them. But I don't live in a perfect world, I live in a world where people leave the line, so I'm just doing my part to try to convince people that creating blockades isn't appropriate.

 

[BostonRob]

I highlighted a few select spots you missed last time.

I didn't miss them, I just didn't address them because I was trying to argue against blockading. Perhaps if you implored the blockaders to go get a CM too, I wouldn't have argued with you at all.

 

[webstah]

Getting out of line for a potty break and rejoining your family, fine.
Having one person wait in line, and when you get near the front, having 8 people join you, not so much, but still not a serious issue.
Having 8-10 kids push past because they don't want to wait? that's another thing entirely.
Forcing yourselves between two or three people who, by the virtue of holding hands, are obviously together? Down right rude.
If I see a family that is going into the reduced width area of a rides line, I hold back to make sure they stay together. A little child is not going to ride alone.
When 1 person pushes in front of a group of people and calls their friends up to join them is also a little rude.
If you stick together, or as closde as possible, I have found that people generally don't mind your rejoining your group if you are only moving up 2-4 spaces.
What really annoys me is when people try to push through more than half of the line with out saying excuse me or anything else.
Elbows and body checks do not have any place in a line of people.If your party is more than half way through the line, you really should find a CM and explain instead of pushing through.

 

[dreamer17555]

And while I wouldnt expect anyone who has waited and/or is already seated to have to move; I would expect them to consider it. I know if I was seated and I seen a kid struggling to see standing behind me I would get up and move back even if I had waited hours for that seat!

It's not about me ...

Why is it automatically about children? My best friend has been saving for over three years for her trip that is coming up, first one ever and she is 30. Just because they dont have children doesn't mean they should give up their spot. Aren't they more deserving than a child who goes twice a year? There is no real way to tell who should get that front spot. If you waited than you earned it. Do not try to push your children in front of me and I will not try to push mine or an adult in front of your family.

-Becca-