Line cutters

[zoo2tycoon]

To those who say it's ok for one or two to by - what is the limit for how many groups of that many that you allow by? What about people around you? I understand the toddlers and disabled but just because the rest of group needed food, etc is no reason.

 

[jevs]

Doesn't bother me although we've never had a large group wanting to go ahead.

At DL earlier this year the CM let us through a different entry and didn't realise that he had cut a family in half (4 in front of us and 2 behind). The family didn't speak up to the CM and I only realised due to the excessive eye rolling, dirty looks, and muttered comments about line cutters. Eventually he asked if they could join the rest of the group in front of us and I said sure. Had he asked straight up without all the carry on - it was an honest mistake after all, he would have joined his group a LOT sooner.

 

[wenrob]

Doesn't bother me although we've never had a large group wanting to go ahead.

At DL earlier this year the CM let us through a different entry and didn't realise that he had cut a family in half (4 in front of us and 2 behind). The family didn't speak up to the CM and I only realised due to the excessive eye rolling, dirty looks, and muttered comments about line cutters. Eventually he asked if they could join the rest of the group in front of us and I said sure. Had he asked straight up without all the carry on - it was an honest mistake after all, he would have joined his group a LOT sooner.

Being split happens to us sometimes. We do what we call a "Rob sandwich," one parent, younger kid, oldest kid, younger kid, other parent so we're walking single file rather than a big group. Generally this helps keep a kid from going missing but when getting in lines people tend to cut us (usually one of the smaller kids) off. Then when we ask to please join our family we get the huffs and eye rolls. That's usually the only time I get upset about "cutting" but rarely because either the half of us who are up front will move back or we'll tell the CM we got split and they hold our party aside until the others reach us.

The rest? Meh. Getting upset and territorial would just ruin MY fun. It's just not worth getting upset over. I try to take the chill approach when I'm on vacation.

 

[Disneyland1084]

I unknowingly cut in line for the tram tour at Universal Studios in Hollywood last summer. I walked to what I thought was the front. I noticed the chain was down to what looked like the entrance. I asked a worker if this was the line for the tram tour and he said "I think so." So I walked right on. After a couple of minutes I noticed a lady next to me looking at me funny. Her husband said "We're with them." He was referring to the people in front of me. I was so embarrassed as he caught me off guard. I said I was looking for my husband and couldn't find him. Ok, so that was a lie. I then noticed where the back of the line was. WAY WAY WAY back. I entertained the idea of just staying where I was, then my conscience got to me and I went to the back of the line. Then during the tour I lost my cell phone, wondering if it was karma for thinking of cutting in line. Luckily my phone was found the next morning.

 

[karensi]

Wait a minute.....maybe I'm not understanding......are you saying that if I'm on line with my family and I have to use the ladies room.....or if one of my grandchildren have to use the bathroom....that when we finish and return to the line we should NOT join the rest of our family but get on the end of the line?

 

[Gracie09]

Wait a minute.....maybe I'm not understanding......are you saying that if I'm on line with my family and I have to use the ladies room.....or if one of my grandchildren have to use the bathroom....that when we finish and return to the line we should NOT join the rest of our family but get on the end of the line?

Go before you get on line. The way the lines are set up you will be pushing your way out and then pushing your way back through hundreds of people. Lines are not set up for easy or quick entrance or exits.
When we go, we visit the rest room frequently and our kids know if they don't go or at least attempt to go and we get on a line and have to leave due to them deciding they have to go, we get off the line and meet our group at the end of the line aka after the ride is over.
Now we don't get on any line longer than 20-30 minutes so its not like I am expecting them to hold it for an hour. And we have only had to do this once. Now they know when we stop to go, they go.

 

[Branflakes]

I am pretty relaxed about one person catching up to another or the kid that had to leave the line to go to the bathroom, however we did get "cut" in line for a bus at MK by 25+ of a South American tour group, you know the ones I speak of. It was the worst bus experience we have had, caused many people not to get on the bus, they were rude. I have seen them attempt this at EE as well, was close to an angry mob scene.

I'm going slightly Have mercy you mentioned the South American tour groups!
Not. A. Fan. In 2015, my husband and I were so angry at a mob of them. They were a larger group, and were being so obnoxious, chanting in sync so loud you couldn't hear yourself think. Also, I couldn't hear the magic on Main Street. So, we got fed up and made fools of ourselves and started our own loud chant by singing WHOS THE LEADER OF THE BAND THATS MADE FOR YOU AND ME. M I C K E Y M O U S E!!!! MICKEY MOUSE..... and then it happened a few others clearly annoyed chimed in with DONALD DUCK! etc...
we had a nice little moment. Also, we were flipped off. And spoken rudely to. But so many others chimed in and that made it worth every second. Then we went back to our resort and drank booze by the pool.

 

[justussix]

Go before you get on line. The way the lines are set up you will be pushing your way out and then pushing your way back through hundreds of people. Lines are not set up for easy or quick entrance or exits.

There are plenty of switch backs and chicken exits for people to quick step over without working their way back through the entire queue. Besides, there's no need to push. Just say, "Excuse me please, I was wondering if I could join my family?" People are more than kind enough to make room. I abused this quite a bit on a 90 something degree day shortly after medical issue that popped up just prior to our last trip. Found myself waiting in gift shops until the family was out of the heat, then I'd join the line. Kids want to ride with Dad - I had to tough it out the best I could! Plus it was already paid for. It's that type of thing that I just don't know when people ask to join families. I give them the benefit of the doubt. Very rare is the person who just flat out thinks they are above waiting and is really trying to cheat their way to the front. But if that's their character, I don't want to get into confrontation with them. What do they say about wrestling a pig? You both get dirty, but only one enjoys it?

 

[justussix]

To those who say it's ok for one or two to by - what is the limit for how many groups of that many that you allow by? What about people around you? I understand the toddlers and disabled but just because the rest of group needed food, etc is no reason.

Haven't run up against the limit yet. I can count on one hand the number of times this might actually happen in a given day, let alone a single line. So - no magic number that would make me get all bent out shape and say, "That's IT!!! No More!!!!"

 

[Gracie09]

There are plenty of switch backs and chicken exits for people to quick step over without working their way back through the entire queue. Besides, there's no need to push. Just say, "Excuse me please, I was wondering if I could join my family?" People are more than kind enough to make room. I abused this quite a bit on a 90 something degree day shortly after medical issue that popped up just prior to our last trip. Found myself waiting in gift shops until the family was out of the heat, then I'd join the line. Kids want to ride with Dad - I had to tough it out the best I could! Plus it was already paid for. It's that type of thing that I just don't know when people ask to join families. I give them the benefit of the doubt. Very rare is the person who just flat out thinks they are above waiting and is really trying to cheat their way to the front. But if that's their character, I don't want to get into confrontation with them. What do they say about wrestling a pig? You both get dirty, but only one enjoys it?

AT Disney? Most lines there are not set up in such a way that have switch backs to allow easy access. I can think of maybe 5 or 6 off the top of my head. And then you are adding an additional level of climbing under or over dividers. If you cannot wait in a line due to a medical issue, Disney has a program for that the DAS. Because they don't want people pushing in and out of lines. The gift shops are also at the end of the ride often not even close to the entrance some are even in separate buildings.

 

[maxiesmom]

Wait a minute.....maybe I'm not understanding......are you saying that if I'm on line with my family and I have to use the ladies room.....or if one of my grandchildren have to use the bathroom....that when we finish and return to the line we should NOT join the rest of our family but get on the end of the line?

Exactly. And while my days with little ones is long gone, during them we never left a line for a bathroom break and then tried to get back to the rest of the family in the line. Most lines are not set up so that you can rejoin without pushing past and on other guests.

I've left a couple of lines (Little Mermaid I'm looking especially at you) when they stopped moving. And it is a pain to leave. The constant "Excuse Me" the trying to get around people without shoving them or stepping on their toes. It isn't easy. There is no way I would be comfortable pushing back through.

 

[Domo]

I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for cutting a line, but it's when someone just wants to be pushy or get ahead as much as possible with no disregard to the people who have patiently waiting that irks me.

 

[sasywtch]

The amount would depend on the type of ride, Dumbo comes to mind. My oldest grandson and I were riding teacups and was walking to Dumbo to watch my other grandkids ride. Two families who got off the teacups with us with 2-3 kids respectively and dads went to Dumbo and did the excuse me and meet up with mom toward the beginning of the line.
I am one that doesn't have a problem with a kid that needs to use the restroom but the one that bothers me is whole families doing the excuse me to meet up with another family or a group of teens trying to go meet up with their friends.

 

[ronandannette]

For me it's pretty simple. If you were never in line to being with, then joining your group later is in fact line cutting.
If you have a GAC, that's a different story

I completely agree - it's bad form for one or two people to get in line and hold spots for the rest of their group. We'd never do it. But on those occasions when someone (or more than one person) has squeezed by us to join their "placeholder", we move aside without remark. Life's too short...

 

[Jennasis]

I have been lucky to never experience blatant line cutting. It would annoy me if we did but I don't know that I'd do anything about it. If Disney itself won't mange/police the line, then I ain't taking on the job of Sheriff for them. Too many crazies out there.

 

[amberpi]

I think this is a slippery slope, if people can just get in line and leave a place holder, can I leave my companion at Soarin' and run out to Sunshine Seasons and grab us some of their crappy wine? I've stood long enough in that line, that I promise, the crappy wine would be SO appreciated.

Note: I'm obviously being silly, but I do think that people should behaved in a civilized manner and just follow the ever living rules!

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for cutting a line, but it's when someone just wants to be pushy or get ahead as much as possible with no disregard to the people who have patiently waiting that irks me.

The issue that I have is that A LOT of people who are either cutting or going back in line simply extend their arms and swat the people in front of them out of the way. If you ask politely to go ahead, I'll let you. If you swat me, we're going to have a very serious problem.

 

[tcufrog]

I had a problem with egregious line holding at the local science museum. Every year they hold a Polar Express pajama party and screen the movie on their giant IMAX dome screen. The show is very popular and the tickets sell out very far in advance. Since they don't offer reserved seating people que up far in advance so they can get the best seats. I qued up very early with my kids. Two adults were ahead of us. We didn't find out until 30 minutes later when the people started being let in that they are saving place in line for about 25 Girl Scouts who had been busy loading up on junk food at the refreshment stand. I was not pleased. When I told the two adults that I didn't appreciate what they were doing they were extremely rude.

 

[eileenjez]

A few years ago we made the mistake of going to DL during Grad Nite.. Grad Nite means something very different now than when we graduated. The kids are at the park all day, we just spent all night there. Any way we were in line for HM and it was curling around places it never did before. Had a couple of kids in front of us yelling at friends as they passed by, no big deal. Then it became hey join us. Ended up having about 20 more kids. Karma struck and the ride broke down. They all went scurrying away to get on other rides as did most of the others that were there. As we were walking by the front of the ride they reopened it so we just walked right on.

 

[DisTXMom]

I generally ONLY mind the tour groups because it's like 8-10 teenagers trying to meet the 1 person in line (if anyone is even up there). I don't get personal, but will cut them off and say "there is a line" (duh!). If they point to their friend, I suggest meeting him back where they are (and I gesture to the friend and then the back of the line, since they sometimes act like they don't know English, even if they do). Not going to get upset or loud about it, but I inherited the "speak my mind" gene from my Mom and I use it from time to time