line cheaters at Princess Fairytale hall

[bethjones]

Just wanted to mention that I saw what I perceive to be line cheating at rope drop at the MK. The dad would follow the CM's rope to the princess hall and get in line. Then mom and little girls follow at a more leisurely pace, arrive at the line, and insist on joining dad way ahead in the line, pushing their way through everyone. What do you all think of this? Is it fair? A lot of other families all proceeded together, slowly and didn't get nearly as good a spot in the line.

 

[AllieBoo]

Yes, I personally think it is line cheating. I've never understood why some people think it's ok

 

[Newsies]

Line cheating is the #2 way to get yourself called out by other guests in WDW (#1 is to take flash photography on rides). I just make a passive-aggressive comment loud enough for the line cheaters to hear and then carry on with my day

 

[IndyRnRfan]

Line cheating is the #2 way to get yourself called out by other guests in WDW (#1 is to take flash photography on rides). I just make a passive-aggressive comment loud enough for the line cheaters to hear and then carry on with my day

Yes, it is cutting and I always call those people out and have had a few choice words.
The flash photography also kills me. It goes to show the stupidity of the human race. Learn to follow basic directions. My wife had this happen yesterday. I can't remember the attraction but the woman behind her took two pictures with flash. She turns around and asks not to use the flash nicely. Her husband then takes out his phone and turns on his flash. My wife comments to her friend they are sitting in front of a couple idiots nice and loud. About a minute later someone behind them says if you don't turn that phone off I'm gonna shove it up your rear end(he used the three letter word instead). He turned it off and people where laughing when he did.
I have noticed, many people don't like to be confronted, especially when they are doing something wrong. I find it hilarious when those people are called out. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I will. If no one tells them they are doing something wrong, they will never know. I look at it as my civic duty to call out stupid or ignorant people.

 

[Canuck16]

Line cheating is the #2 way to get yourself called out by other guests in WDW (#1 is to take flash photography on rides). I just make a passive-aggressive comment loud enough for the line cheaters to hear and then carry on with my day

 

[Puffy2]

Just to play devils advocate. I don't think the dad is meeting a princess, what difference would it make if he holds the place and lets the little girls take his spot?

Is it against Disney rules? Then, yes, this shouldn't be allowed.

Anyone know for sure?

 

[ljca79]

Just to play devils advocate. I don't think the dad is meeting a princess, what difference would it make if he holds the place and lets the little girls take his spot?

Is it against Disney rules? Then, yes, this shouldn't be allowed.

Anyone know for sure?

I have to agree. We are brand newbies, but what's the big deal if one person gets ahead of the crowd for the family? It would be different, I think, if it was for some huge group. Nuclear family - would not bother me. Should a mom and children not be allowed to excuse from a line to go to the bathroom and rejoin the dad? Seems sort of the same to me.

 

[Puffy2]

Good point about the bathroom thing. I'm sure this happens all the time. Also agree that it would be different if the man (or woman) was trying to hold a spot for tons of people. that is not acceptable.

 

[cakebaker]

It only bothers me if what they're doing personally affects me. Since it's one child on the meet n greet, it really doesn't affect line flow. If he was holding the spot for a group of 6 little princesses- then I be bothered. Whether it's against the rules, I don't know, I'd guess so but then so are potty breaks probably. We never minded that when we didn't have a little one and we're thankful for being allowed that courtesy now that we do.

 

[WillAustin]

Returning to the line after the potty break generates a more favorable response than one person holding a spot for the rest of the family.

 

[Takket]

We did the 4 hour wait at Norway to meet Anna and Elsa. NO ONE waited in line as a group. one person always held the line and the rest of the family joined at the end. Is this any different? As long as they don't "jump the rope", it is first come, first served.

 

[Love Tink]

It isn't "against the rules." I have two sons with AD/HD and many times when they were younger we would have one parent wait in a character line while the other parent sat elsewhere with the kids (for the benefit of our family as well as those who would have been stuck in the tight space with them). We were always told by CMs that it was absolutely no problem - character lines are different from ride lines.

But far be it from me to rain on anyone's judgment party. If there is anything people on the Dis hate, it's the idea that somebody somewhere might be gaining an advantage somehow.

 

[dmband]

I have held a spot and don't care what others think
On the flip side I don't care if someone else holds a spot so all is fair IMO

I typically go with large groups, ie over ten and a few of us will stand in line while the little ones sit in the shade or whatever. Trust me you would most likely have that situation then have six kids from 1-9 being a pain in your butt in line.
We have also had the bathroom issue where some have got out of line and back in.

All that said if you are a tour group and one person is holding a spot for 50 that's not cool

Edit, really no different then someone putting out a blanket to hold spots at parades and such
Heck some people even pay to have others hold them spots. Might not be "fair" but everyone has the same option if they really wanted too.

 

[nugov2]

Nope wouldn't bother me at all and I don't think it is cutting. They probably had to use the bathroom. I saw people getting in and out of lines with small kids our whole trip and never would have called them out. Some for what I would assume is bathroom and others for a snack. I don't get worked up over things that won't effect my day at all. I'd rather a child be allowed the opportunity to get out of line to use the bathroom or get a little more space to move around if they need to vs having a unhappy kid in line next to me. Either way they are going to take up time with the M&G and I'd rather my waiting in line isn't unpleasant b/c of a crabby kid.

 

[mirak]

I agree - nothing wrong with what the dad did. I think people get extra grouchy about the lines to meet those sweet little princesses, which is kind of ironic.

 

[Skywise]

1 dad for a family of four I'm not going to have too much of a problem with. I don't put that any different than holding a spot for a parade or fireworks.

Now I was at a local fair once where one kid held a place in line for about TWENTY other kids and that ticked me off. (Fortunately I had just gotten in line so I got right back out and went elsewhere - I wasn't about to hang around for the fireworks from that one)

 

[AllieBoo]

Getting out of line to go to the bathroom is way different than the Dad running ahead of the crowd to get a good spot in line ahead of all of the other families. Sorry, but it's not cool to do that.

 

[IrishNYC]

Getting out of line to go to the bathroom is way different than the Dad running ahead of the crowd to get a good spot in line ahead of all of the other families. Sorry, but it's not cool to do that.

I so agree! Holding a place in line for your group of over ten isn't cool, either.

 

[disneydude365]

I have to say I'm on the edge I was waiting to meet the frog princess and there was only one person in front of me. They told the line that they would soon be having to end the meet and greet. Well the lady starts screaming and a family of 10 comes tromping up in front of me and the cast member frowns and sincerely apologized to me when after they each got solo shots and she had to leave for the day. So because of this line holder I lost out
So I think at times it's ok but for others it's not
Children yes it makes easier for the parents
Grown ppl should wait. I'm crippled and if I can wait there are a lot of ppl who could too

 

[HopperFan]

Sharing what I was told by Character Handler, Supervisor/Coordinator and Manager at Animal Kingdom.... "You can not save a place in line for characters - your entire party must be together to enter the line."

We were in line for a character. There was a woman in front of me alone. When it was her turn she said, go ahead (she had already let a few others pass.) The handler (older gentleman) heard her and motioned to her to meet the character. She said "I am waiting for my girls." He replied "I am going to have to ask you to step out and join the line at the back when they arrive. You can not save a spot in line." She went BALLISTIC. Then she was clever enough to get in his face and talk as quiet as she could but I was standing right there and she was so awful and offensive. Her daughters walked up as all this was happening and she went running off. After we were done we slowly walked in the same direction, I just had a gut feeling. Sure enough she found supervisor who had called a manager who had just walked up. The woman and her girls were talking to the manager so I approached the supervisor. Told her I saw the entire incident up close, heard what she said, she was awful and I had a feeling she was going to start trouble. She told me the woman wanted him fired for not letting them see the character. I told her what happened and she completely backed up the handler and asked me to stay to talk to the manager. I did. Manager said she was sure the woman was lying and appreciated me telling her what had happened and that the handler was correct in his actions.

It might have been one dad and three family members but what if there were ten dads and 30 people cutting ahead of you. And each kid gets a photo and autograph, then the kids photo together and then the whole family take a photo. The Norway situation was unusual, long lines out along the walkways made it impossible to monitor. Moving it to MK was to gain control of it.

My DS is disabled, loves characters and we wait in the lines, even when offered to cut ahead, I say no. When meeting Sandy Claws the CM allowed his siblings to wait in the line and him join halfway but we arrived to the line together and he sat at the entrance the entire time - not off doing other things.