Line cheaters and what I did about it

[BuckeyeBama]

The higher-ground status is lost when you're berating other people for not being as chill as you are.

Never claimed to be on higher ground - just offering a different point of view.

Consider that even noticing this stuff diminishes your vacation. It clearly puts people on edge. That is what I am trying to avoid. I want my time in WDW to be amazing, so I don't allow strangers to make it anything other than amazing. I don't come home from WDW with lists of things that upset me - I come home with awesome memories.

 

[SabbyR]

OP: Sorry you're weirdly getting dogpiled in this thread. I guess we're all supposed to keep our head down and get rolled over rather than speak up.

Hes getting dogpiled because there are already threads along this same line. And idc if you speak up just do it in an assertive way rather than being rude about it. Line cutters might bother you but what bothers me more is rude line bullys who decide they are the moral police.

 

[maxiesmom]

Hes getting dogpiled because there are already threads along this same line. And idc if you speak up just do it in an assertive way rather than being rude about it. Line cutters might bother you but what bothers me more is rude line bullys who decide they are the moral police.

I'm bothered by people thinking a skill they learned in kindergarten no longer applies to them. There are lines at WDW. You need to wait in them. No one is so important that they get to decide for themselves they can skip by everyone else. At least they shouldn't. And they also shouldn't act like they are the ones being wronged.

 

[drdrowsy]

OP: Sorry you're weirdly getting dogpiled in this thread. I guess we're all supposed to keep our head down and get rolled over rather than speak up.

thanks (and that other thread did remind me to post this)

one of the surprising things about the experience was that everyone around me was griping, but no one was doing anything about it.

If a CM was around, would I have done something differently? Not sure. Maybe this was selfish of ME, but i was more interested in preserving my own spot in line than punishing the transgressors. I did apologize to the people immediately behind me. Including a CM in the discussion could have led to unforeseen consequences.

 

[IrishNYC]

Not ok to stop people from cutting, ok to tell people on the internet you are more enlightened about letting people cut than they are. Got it.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

How silly of me. Of course - each attraction needs its own specific line cutting thread, complete with measurements of the width of the line at various points, so that everyone knows exactly how many 6'7" men to bring along in order to most effectively prevent toddlers from using the bathroom.

Personally, I think that there is a difference between the scenario that the OP posted here and the discussion going on over on the other thread regarding princess meet and greets. With the princess situation, family members joining the person standing in line will, in all likelihood, not lengthen the amount of time those behind are waiting. They will still do the one photo of the family and move on. On a ride, however, when you add in 2, 3, 4 or more people, those people are going to occupy seats on the ride. Those seats would have been taken up by the person who had been waiting in line, but they got bumped back because other people cut in front of him or her. So, now that person has to wait for the next ride vehicle. That means that they are now definitely waiting more time than they would have had those people not cut in line in the first place.

And, for what it's worth, I also see a big difference between a father or mother rejoining his or her spouse in line after excusing himself or herself from the line due to a small child needing to use the restroom after already being in line versus multiple people who were never in line joining other people in line by cutting in front of other people.

 

[SabbyR]

I'm bothered by people thinking a skill they learned in kindergarten no longer applies to them. There are lines at WDW. You need to wait in them. No one is so important that they get to decide for themselves they can skip by everyone else. At least they shouldn't. And they also shouldn't act like they are the ones being wronged.

First of all I don't skip lines, Neither do my girls or husband. We don't mind our time in line together at all. My point is how you stop said line cutters. Assertively Im ok with, rudely, not at all.

 

[SabbyR]

Not ok to stop people from cutting, ok to tell people on the internet you are more enlightened about letting people cut than they are. Got it.

Cutting in line is wrong but telling them they are wrong rudely is ok I guess as long as you've got the mob behind you

 

[IrishNYC]

I don't actually care who's behind me or not, no one is cutting me. If someone's cutting me and my family, those on line behind me clearly aren't part of the mob since they let the cutter get that far.

 

[drdrowsy]

First of all I don't skip lines, Neither do my girls or husband. We don't mind our time in line together at all. My point is how you stop said line cutters. Assertively Im ok with, rudely, not at all.

i think i was assertive, not rude.
I think the families around me thought i was assertive, not rude, but no way of knowing for sure
I think the family trying to jump the line was being rude not assertive
I think the family trying to jump the line thought i was being rude!

 

[VikingInMouseEars]

Well before the thread gets closed I will add my 2 cents. The OP did nothing rude, he simply stood his ground. That in no way makes him a ride bully or the moral police, he was in line waiting his turn and simply insisted that others do the same. I have spoke up before when people think they can get away with stuff like this at the expense of other and I will again. If you think thats wrong or you are willing to let people push you aside to get ahead of you then thats up to you and you are helping enable this sort of behavior.. The line bully are the ones that try things like this, not the people that speak up. If more people spoke up then there wouldn't be so many jerks that try to butt in lines. WTG OP!

 

[maxiesmom]

Cutting in line is wrong but telling them they are wrong rudely is ok I guess as long as you've got the mob behind you

There is no need to do it in a rude manner. Take a tip from Southerners--Why Bless Your Heart, I Bet You Missed This Little Ol Line We Are All In.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Cutting in line is wrong but telling them they are wrong rudely is ok I guess as long as you've got the mob behind you

I have a question. I can see where you are coming from about how you should still use manners when pointing out that someone should not and does not have the right to cut in front of you in line. Do you have an idea of how to politely point out that someone is doing something wrong? Would saying, "excuse me, you were not in line and need to go to the end and wait like everyone else" be okay to you?

 

[IrishNYC]

There is no need to do it in a rude manner. Take a tip from Southerners--Why Bless Your Heart, I Bet You Missed This Little Ol Line We Are All In.

I'm totally using this line on my trip. It might not sound so sweet with my Brooklyn accent though. I'm sure the point will be taken.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

There is no need to do it in a rude manner. Take a tip from Southerners--Why Bless Your Heart, I Bet You Missed This Little Ol Line We Are All In.

I would burst out laughing if I heard someone say that in line. Bonus points if it was said while waiting in line for Splash or Thunder Mountain.

 

[Indio]

No - I haven't called anyone out for jumping line, as I don't think I've ever seen a situation where I would.

I must incredibly oblivious, but I've never had a problem with line jumpers (except maybe once in line for the Candlelight Processional, but I quickly realized it was no big deal, because they were going to have a horrible time finding seats together, compared to me and my husband, who could squeeze in anywhere).

Similarly, I've never had a ride "ruined" by camera flashes (though I've noticed one or two). I've never been assaulted by a selfie stick. I've spotted an ipad here or there, but never had my view entirely blocked by them. Children on shoulders - no problem. Boys in the ladies' room - so what? Never been run down by a stroller or ECV. Never been assaulted by bubbles. Have I forgotten any?

Some guests are undoubtedly obnoxious, but when I'm at Disney I can happily ignore most of them. Sometimes when I read these complaint threads, I really wonder if we're visiting the same theme park!

 

[_Mickey_]

Look I'm not trying to get in a tizzy with either side here, because I think both sides have valid points, but is it really necessary to create basically the same thread as another active thread (see line cheaters at princess fairytale hall if you don't know what I'm talking about)? A lot of you are posting the same exact arguments you posted in the other thread. I don't think its necessary to keep creating threads about the exact same topic (and yes this thread might be in regards to a ride, not a character M&G, but essentially the topic is the same - line cutters), especially when said topic tends to turn ugly fast. I love the disboards, I really do, and while negativity is rampant on the Internet, I like to think the dis is generally a positive place; in creating deuplicate threads (which I'm sorry, but they are designed to start an argument) you make the dis not such a nice place. Let's agree to disagree, and stop beating a dead horse. If you want to say more on this topic, I would encourage you to please post on that other active thread....

 

[IrishNYC]

FWIW when people have cut me in line, whether for a ride or in a store, my "confrontation" is usually, "I'm sorry, did you miss the rest of the line back there?" If that's rude or a mob mentality, then

 

[maxiesmom]

Look I'm not trying to get in a tizzy with either side here, because I think both sides have valid points, but is it really necessary to create basically the same thread as another active thread (see line cheaters at princess fairytale hall if you don't know what I'm talking about)? A lot of you are posting the same exact arguments you posted in the other thread. I don't think its necessary to keep creating threads about the exact same topic (and yes this thread might be in regards to a ride, not a character M&G, but essentially the topic is the same - line cutters), especially when said topic tends to turn ugly fast. I love the disboards, I really do, and while negativity is rampant on the Internet, I like to think the dis is generally a positive place; in creating deuplicate threads (which I'm sorry, but they are designed to start an argument) you make the dis not such a nice place. Let's agree to disagree, and stop beating a dead horse. If you want to say more on this topic, I would encourage you to please post on that other active thread....

As an FYI the Moderators will join the threads together, if they see both are the same, at some point. You really don't need to step in. And telling other posters how to post is not going to make you any friends on the Dis.