Lighthouse Point Hotel

[Husker Mike]

According to reports, Disney is planning a hotel at Lighthouse Point.

https://wicnews.com/caribbean/disney-cruise-liners-build-hotel-bahamas-153726147/
So will one of the new itineraries created with the new ships be essentially a shuttle between Florida and a a hotel stay at Lighthouse Point? Perhaps 2 night cruises to Lighthouse Point and 1-2 night return cruises back to Florida, with passengers spending days at the new resort at Lighthouse Point in between?

 

[StarSeven7]

I was wondering about that myself!

 

[Giraffe Lounge]

I wouldn’t get too excited... seems like some bad translation at work here. To wit, “ As per reports, Disney is spending nearly $250 million to $400 million to fabricate *ANOTHER* hotel on the island of Eleuthera at Lighthouse Point which is toward the south of Castaway cay.”

 

[Geomom]

This is Disney's official website for Lighthouse Point:
https://lighthousepointbahamas.com/progress/
There isn't supposed to be a hotel there. There would be even more complaints about what Disney is doing at Lighthouse Point from the environmentalists. It's supposed to be a second 'island' like Castaway Cay with just ship visits and whatever staff will be living there.

 

[GoofyDisneyDaddy]

This is Disney's official website for Lighthouse Point:
https://lighthousepointbahamas.com/progress/
There isn't supposed to be a hotel there. There would be even more complaints about what Disney is doing at Lighthouse Point from the environmentalists. It's supposed to be a second 'island' like Castaway Cay with just ship visits and whatever staff will be living there.

I'm not sure by what you mean "supposed to be." I agree, Disney has certainly not announced any hotel or given us any reason to believe there will be one. Still, seeing as Rhode did Aulani, always struck me as strange that he's been assigned this project. If just a getaway stop for cruise passengers, seemed a bit below his pay grade. Perhaps at one point a hotel was planned and scrapped or perhaps it's a future phase. Who knows... While the website from the OP certainly doesn't seem authoritative, I'm also not sure we have the full story here from Disney yet, either.

 

[Trera]

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According to reports, Disney is planning a hotel at Lighthouse Point.

https://wicnews.com/caribbean/disney-cruise-liners-build-hotel-bahamas-153726147/
So will one of the new itineraries created with the new ships be essentially a shuttle between Florida and a a hotel stay at Lighthouse Point? Perhaps 2 night cruises to Lighthouse Point and 1-2 night return cruises back to Florida, with passengers spending days at the new resort at Lighthouse Point in between?

how would you keep the hotel full and the boat that is transporting folks back and forth to the mainland full. It is not in Disney's best interest to run either half full

 

[JM_97]

According to reports, Disney is planning a hotel at Lighthouse Point.

https://wicnews.com/caribbean/disney-cruise-liners-build-hotel-bahamas-153726147/
So will one of the new itineraries created with the new ships be essentially a shuttle between Florida and a a hotel stay at Lighthouse Point? Perhaps 2 night cruises to Lighthouse Point and 1-2 night return cruises back to Florida, with passengers spending days at the new resort at Lighthouse Point in between?

Not sure how that would work and doesn't sound economically smart from Disney's side. Plus it sounds like a logistical headache.

I'm guessing it will be a timeshare resort like in Hawaii. Having the cruise ship go there is one big marketing pitch

 

[MarkLT1]

how would you keep the hotel full and the boat that is transporting folks back and forth to the mainland full. It is not in Disney's best interest to run either half full

Not that Disney is doing this... but you could do it this way:

1. PC --> Lighthouse Point, 2 days. Ship arrives early in the morning.
2. Ship disembarks, all guests move over to the hotel. Current hotel guests board the ship.
3. Lighthouse Point --> PC, 1 day. Ship arrives early in the morning. New guests board, go to 1

So you could have 2 days out, 1 day back, with 3 days at the hotel. This would mean that there would likely be one ship dedicated to going back and forth, and it is a ton of loading/offloading, so I definitely wouldn't want to be a cast member involved in this. I am guessing that economically it wouldn't make sense, and logistically would be a nightmare.

 

[Trera]

Not that Disney is doing this... but you could do it this way:

1. PC --> Lighthouse Point, 2 days. Ship arrives early in the morning.
2. Ship disembarks, all guests move over to the hotel. Current hotel guests board the ship.
3. Lighthouse Point --> PC, 1 day. Ship arrives early in the morning. New guests board, go to 1

So you could have 2 days out, 1 day back, with 3 days at the hotel. This would mean that there would likely be one ship dedicated to going back and forth, and it is a ton of loading/offloading, so I definitely wouldn't want to be a cast member involved in this. I am guessing that economically it wouldn't make sense, and logistically would be a nightmare.

Imagine moving all of those people from the ship to the hotel and back again with the shuttles they use on CC. Also, the hotel capacity would have to match that of the boat so that a full boat would have rooms for all the passengers.

As you said........logistical nightmare

 

[MarkLT1]

Imagine moving all of those people from the ship to the hotel and back again with the shuttles they use on CC. Also, the hotel capacity would have to match that of the boat so that a full boat would have rooms for all the passengers.

As you said........logistical nightmare

Yup.. it would be a nightmare.. that being said, they do a similar turn-around every time they board the ships- a whole ship-load of people leave, they clean stuff up, load all the new people, and they're off. If you had a fully staffed hotel that could house, say 2500 people (assuming they'd only do this using the smaller ships), and the right logistics in place to move people's luggage, it would definitely be doable. How much people would *want* to do so, and the potential burnout for CMs doing all this work? That is another story.

(In other words... I am doubtful, but at the same time wouldn't be terribly surprised to see it happen)

 

[_auroraborealis_]

FOr a hotel to be large enough to hold the capacity of the ship would be challenging.

To reach the hotel any way but by water is also challenging. There are two small airports on the island, and both are 2-3 hours by car from Lighthouse Point. Air service to those airports is challenging.

 

[Geomom]

I'm not sure by what you mean "supposed to be." I agree, Disney has certainly not announced any hotel or given us any reason to believe there will be one. Still, seeing as Rhode did Aulani, always struck me as strange that he's been assigned this project. If just a getaway stop for cruise passengers, seemed a bit below his pay grade. Perhaps at one point a hotel was planned and scrapped or perhaps it's a future phase. Who knows... While the website from the OP certainly doesn't seem authoritative, I'm also not sure we have the full story here from Disney yet, either.

As far as 'not supposed to be a hotel': There has been no hotel announced, there is no hotel shown in the concept plan, and they plan to develop 20% of the land, mostly low density--small support structures, beach chairs, etc. On the lighthouse point website, under 'opportunity', it says they expect guests to be in port 3-5 days/week year round. There is no mention of overnight stays. I think that the website OP posted is confused on what DCL is doing on Eleuthera. There definitely seem to be some translation issues in general in that article.

 

[FigmentSpark]

Maybe the hotel is on another part of the island?

 

[cwis]

Not that Disney is doing this... but you could do it this way:

1. PC --> Lighthouse Point, 2 days. Ship arrives early in the morning.
2. Ship disembarks, all guests move over to the hotel. Current hotel guests board the ship.
3. Lighthouse Point --> PC, 1 day. Ship arrives early in the morning. New guests board, go to 1

So you could have 2 days out, 1 day back, with 3 days at the hotel. This would mean that there would likely be one ship dedicated to going back and forth, and it is a ton of loading/offloading, so I definitely wouldn't want to be a cast member involved in this. I am guessing that economically it wouldn't make sense, and logistically would be a nightmare.

I was thinking the same BUT not all guests are required to leave ship.

Suppose the capacity of the hotel is 10% of the ship, they could easily sell those cabins in a different “cruise” (broken between one sea segment + the hotel + the sea segment back to the origin), and for 90% of the guests the cruise will behave as usual.

I'm pretty sure DCL will have no issues finding those 10% of cruisers willing to pay an upgrade to stay a few nights on a private island.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Maybe the hotel is on another part of the island?

There are hotels on the island. It's just hard to get in and out.

 

[Mitura]

Think about this from the cruise ship POV.

Each cruise would lose and gain passengers. You would have 3 different sets of cruisers. Remaining, Departing and Arriving. Each set would drop off/need new KTWC. Think about departure day. Accounts are closed, Shutters photos are finalized, tips are paid. New cruisers would need to be set back up into the clubs, bracelets reactivated. All of that is on a set schedule based on the length of the cruise. If the cruise now has multiple beginnings and endings amongst itself that would make accounting very confusing.

 

[Ccll4]

Wow-what news agency publishes an article with such bad grammar. Makes Yahoo home page articles look stellar.

 

[Husker Mike]

I wouldn’t get too excited... seems like some bad translation at work here. To wit, “ As per reports, Disney is spending nearly $250 million to $400 million to fabricate *ANOTHER* hotel on the island of Eleuthera at Lighthouse Point which is toward the south of Castaway cay.”

While Disney doesn't have a hotel on the islad of Eleuthera, this web site lists several hotels and resorts.

https://www.eleuthera-map.com/hotels-resorts.htm
So if Disney were to build a hotel, it would be ANOTHER hotel on the island.

 

[JM_97]

Wow-what news agency publishes an article with such bad grammar. Makes Yahoo home page articles look stellar.

That's what made me think that this either is false or there is a misunderstanding