Yeah, I'm not sure how the sleeping will work there. It's funny, BWV will be SO much smaller for living space/eating but it is actually better laid out, with this crew, for sleeping. I really don't want any of the boys in the main living area and I know they won't want to split up but I don't really see an another option. If either room could fit an air mattress that would be SO much better.
That's a BIG crew! But what fun it's going to be. Those are the best trips. I love when the kids have friends and others to occupy them.
Friends I think can be easier than cousins. Cousins, at least this crew, are almost like brothers which means the fighting that can go along with it. They are alternatively fabulous and hair pulling and combined....LOUD. Especially one of the nephews. I love him to death but even for me it will be an exercise in patience at times I know. He has aspergers and some of the social issues that go along with it and as he is approaching adult size, more challenging to manage at times as it gets compounded with teen hormones.
It will be...interesting. Not Jeff's idea of fun, for that many days at least but I am hoping to get some couple down time in there as well. I'm not really comfortable just sending them loose in the parks, much as they would love it. I will however probably stick them all at Disney Quest for a few hours while we go to Paradiso 37 and hide from them.

In a way it would be very good if the girls did end up coming as it would settle the boys a bit I think. I'm having lunch with my sister on Thursday and will get a feel for if that's on the radar really, or not. They've been together 6 months
She sounds so cute! Would it be cheaper for them to rent points? Whats the cancelation policy on cash reservations? I've seen David's rent for $7 a point last minute. Just brainstorming with you.
They are pretty averse to renting points as that is a final transaction. Which is a bummer as that's definitely the best way to go but they'd really need to do it now to be at BW, or honestly have done it already to have gotten the standard studio which are now all gone basically. They aren't keen on laying out that much cash now for something 11 months away, that's non refundable, and I get that.
To buy enough points even with resale prices just didn't pencil, would have been more than rack rate without a discount for the time period. With a regular room booking it gives them lots of flexibility for flight changes or if my little sis ends up pregnant and can't go or gosh, who knows. And last minute could be very hard to get something for their dates plus with the holidays I'm thinking $10 is more likely than $7 for last minute, which would be about the same as a cash booking depending on where they decide, regular point rental would be more. You never know though, it is an option, just one I kind of gave up pushing them on. No actual member cash rates for the dates yet but we expect them to not be much of a discount. Cancellation on that though is no biggie, just like a regular Disney room only booking, one night deposit and 72 hour cancel policy. So if and when I get those rates, I will let them know and they may or may not have booked something else in the meantime. I can only control our ressie and am trying to let it go but I am positive there will be shuffling of some sort and drama. No matter how well intentioned every one is, with that many people there will be some kind of wrinkle, it's inevitable.
I think SSR is nicer than OKW, I can see why the points are a little more especially for the THV. We can disagree.
The GV points are LOT more for SSR. Check it out.
For the 9 nights of our trip...
BWV GV 880
SSR GV 763
OKW GV 545
Crazy!!!! Although I couldn't actually pull off 9 nights at OKW, only 7 lol. That's what happens when you turn your couples trip into a full week and borrow a few points so it can all be ocean view

And I used up all my SSR 2012 on the summer trip, I kind of botched the initial purchase for my UY, had I done it 6 weeks earlier I'd have had a whole other year of points to play with but who knew. Cie la vie. In a way it was a blessing that my little sis flat out said they didn't want to share a room with anyone as then it let me use my points, for me, and not feel guilty.
Or at least not much (guilt). Realistically we are housing 4 others in our villa and so they are getting a vastly less expensive trip as a result and I do feel a little guilty about it. Not a lot. We are picking up the room for my single mom sister, her 2 kids and then one other nephew whose (divorced) folks may or may not go. Their other son won't be on our trip as he has a year abroad for HS and that's costing them a small fortune so they may be lucky to come up with airfare and tickets. My sister is just finishing grad school and starting her teaching internship, she doesn't even know if she has a job until summer or even fall so she's in the same boat, if not worse.
Jeff and I will pay for the 1 nephews food if we need to so he can go but hopefully the rest won't be an issue. I don't think it will but when it comes time to buy flights and coordinate it so we are flying together...it could get interesting if neither of his folks really go. I figure the 2 adult couples with no kids should be able to afford their own room. But still, it's a bit unfair and I can't really tell if it bugs them, or not. I wish I could just take them all.
So yeah, longer trip and overall hopefully better as even with a GV we wouldn't have all fit. You never know, if it is actually open at 7m I suppose it's a possiblility to switch but I don't know that it really helps us all that much and then I'd still have to pay cash for a couple of nights so I'd be the one really losing out in that scenario. I think, for the time of year and the mix of adults/kids/couples that being at BW for the actual holiday outweighs the space in the OKW GV. Of course for all I know they are already gone, I can't see availability there.
I'm not sure about SSR being nicer than OKW as I've only stayed at OKW but I find it odd that the THV is more points than BWV. And the fact that they haven't sold out a single night over the holidays would indicate to me that they went a bit too far in the reallocation.
You're a good mama! I don't blame you though, we moved for 2 nights and it was hardly worth it. Joshua and Chloe were my THV fans and I'm so glad we stayed there. I loved every minute of it. I really like that you'll be near Epcot for NYE. It'll be fantastic! I'm so wanting to try the BWV. They look like a total blast to me.
I think if you know what to expect on a move day, it can be fine. It is a pita but I do like trying other resorts, just hate getting there too early and room not being ready. I've had days go super easy, and others take a long time. We will see but as it will be day 7 for my crew, we will likely be ready for a down day anyway. It will be interesting. With online check in at 60 days now for the whole fp+/magic band what not around the corner, the days of heading over early to check in live may be a thing of the past as there is now a drawback to not checking in. Which is a bit of a bummer as that's always seemed to work better for me on getting a room request filled.
Wow, that is a low inventory. It's like GCV low. Both resorts need to make more villas.
Well there are 149 total possible 2B's so in the big picture, it's 3x the size of GCV. It's just only 22 of them with BW view.
By walking do you mean you added on a day each day? I've never fully grasped the term. I'm glad you're getting what you want so far.
That is one way to do it. Theoretically no one can book "your" room as long as you stay a day ahead of the 11m window. So, as long as you call and modify the reservation to keep it ahead of the window you could book it a full week early, but not call to modify until day 5 or 6. That assumes you have enough points to do that though! I only did it when I saw that both the 11m day AND the day after were gone which mean that on that day, even if I'd wanted to book, I couldn't and I was blocked out of the next day even though it wasn't 11m for that day as well. If enough people do walk, or have just booked earlier start dates that go into yours, you could end up never being able to get a reservation started which is why folks "walk".
Here is what I did:
Booked online on 1/26 for 12/26-12/29
called on 1/27. Dropped 1/26, added 12/30
called on 1/28. Dropped 1/27, added 12/31, 1/1
called on 1/29. Dropped 1/28, added 1/2, 1/3.
I could have skipped calling on the 27th and been ok but honestly those dates are such a premium I didn't want to tie anything up longer than I needed it for, it seemed rude.
I also didn't really have to call today, could have waited until Thursday or Friday but I didn't see the point in that either. Had I waited until today to book, my "real" 11m day it is very possible I'd have been out of luck. at 8:02 it showed gone online, as did the following day. It did open back up for a bit but not for long. I probably could have waited to book until yesterday though, instead of starting the 26th but felt safer getting in the line then. And really, it was 3 phone calls. Other than the early mornings to check the online status, not really a big deal to do at all, very painless for them to modify over the phone.
Now I just go online on 2/4 to book the THV dates and we are done.
Praying for luck at the 7 month mark.

<---- me praying.

We can always stay at my friend's, which we will for a few days after the Disneyland part. Personally I'd rather do a
Disney Cruise but the price doubles over the actually holiday.

Don't get me wrong, I'm elated for Disneyland but in a perfect world, we'd be on a cruise Christmas Day. I just can't swallow the price tag.
Oh I hear you there, prices on ones around spring break if you aren't Easter week are SO much better. Summer is a crazy surcharge as well.
I have the 2013-2014 school year calendar saved on my iPad. I'm planning all kinds of trips we won't take.

Planning keeps me sane and it's less fattening than drinking. When is your winter break? When is your Spring Break? Missing two days isn't bad at all. Your tempting me to allow them to miss although Chloe made me change her teeth cleaning appointment for this morning because she doesn't want to miss any school. She's tired of being grounded. :
2 days should be ok. More than that made me nervous so I am very relieved that's all it is as depending on when the break started, it could have been 4 and then I'd have been possibly changing our dates a little, which I don't wan to do.
I am so sorry. I thought I replied.

I wish you would have come too but
done is
done, we've all been there.

Next time. Who knows, I may tag along on some of your next girls' trip. Cynthia can vouch, I'm not totally nuts.
Yep, I can vouch for that. Heck for that matter, I can vouch that Mary Ellen isn't totally nuts either
me on the other hand....
