Life Insurance....How much?

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O.k., so I finally convinced my husband that we NEEd to have life insurance. We are both in our mid 30's and healthy, non-smokers, but we've had several young friends die lately in lightening-strike-rare kind of ways that are making me very nervous! With two young children, I just feel like we HAVE to do this. I want 20 or 30 year term life insurance. Anybody have a great company and/or great rate that they want to recommend?
 
I have Northwestern Mutual terms policy of $250,000. It is $175.00 per year right now. I am 29 year old healthy female, nonsmoker.
 
You can get quotes from your auto/home agent, an independent agent or I just went through an online insurance comparison site. We got a quote on DH that we'll save about $600 a year from what we're paying now & it will extend his term. It's a carrier name I recognize, his BP & weight are better now and we moved to another state so I think those were in our favor. He's 43 and we were quoted $340 for $250k, 20 yr term. Even if they bump him to a higher tier due to BP issues, it's still only $540.

It shouldn't be that expensive if you're young & healthy & definitely something to get for peace of mind. I pay $105 for $250k but will need to extend my term in a few years. We also have other policies through our employers in those same amounts. If you can get coverage through your employer, the group rates are usually the cheapest, it just may cost more if you leave your job.

An agent can look at your financial situation and let you know a good figure that would meet your potential needs. Housing, childcare if you have to go back to work, cost to raise kids, college funds, etc.
 
I pay 20.00 a month for a 100,000.00 policy. I am in that 50 y/o age group and a non smoker. The younger you are the better.
HTH.
 

Just a few quick rules of thumb.
You need to buy enough insurance to provide until your youngest child is 18 years old.
Never buy insurance that offers any sort of saving plan. Would you pay double for auto insurance if they promised to save the additional premium for you?
Once you establish how much you need, find a 15-20 year level term policy that's fully convertible and guaranteed renew-ability.
Finally, SAVE, and eventually replace the need for insurance with your own personal savings.
 
Just a few quick rules of thumb.
You need to buy enough insurance to provide until your youngest child is 18 years old.
Never buy insurance that offers any sort of saving plan. Would you pay double for auto insurance if they promised to save the additional premium for you?
Once you establish how much you need, find a 15-20 year level term policy that's fully convertible and guaranteed renew-ability.
Finally, SAVE, and eventually replace the need for insurance with your own personal savings.

Yes, I think your final sentence says it all. Term insurance is there for you simply to cover you until your financial portfolio can do that for you.
 
We have 5 kids, one million on DH, 500,000 on me (SAHM). He's a CFP, and this is what he came up with - 20 year term.
 
Related question - do you also have AD&D insurance in addition to life insurance? I have a small amount of both provided by my company, but I know I need more. Should I just get more life insurance, or should I get more AD&D as well?
 
Related question - do you also have AD&D insurance in addition to life insurance? I have a small amount of both provided by my company, but I know I need more. Should I just get more life insurance, or should I get more AD&D as well?

AD&D policies very rarely pay off - that is why they are so cheap. Spend the money and just buy regular term insurance instead.
 
Related question - do you also have AD&D insurance in addition to life insurance? I have a small amount of both provided by my company, but I know I need more. Should I just get more life insurance, or should I get more AD&D as well?

Only 5% of people die in accidents. Don't waste your money on accidental death policies. Stick with straight term life insurance. 99% of people need nothing else (and that remaining 1% need to see a certified fee-only financial planner to figure out the rest of theirs).
 
Good for you OP for finally deciding to take the plunge. Personally, I think anyone who CAN do it (like - isn't just struggling to put food on the table on shoes on the kids) really should once they have kids. Hand in hand, IMO, do you have a will with a guardian designated for your kids? If so, I would think the guardian would want the information on whether or not you have life insurance. We want our kids to be with someone who will love them if we're not around - but we don't want to put a burden onto their family or lives above the fact that they will now have kids to raise - don't want them to have to go broke in the process.

I have some insurance - not a ton - I think $250,000 and that plus my retirement would give dh a good cushion if needed. DH has about $500,000 in death benefit plus another $500,000 in investments that would go to the guardian if we were both gone.
 
There are different kinds of life insurance. Most people here seem to be talking about term life, which is cheaper. Basically, it says that the policy is good for say 20 years. Which gets your kids to adulthood. There is also whole life, which is exactly what it sounds like. The policy is good for your whole life, provided you pay, of course. I have both. A large 20 year term life policy as well as a smaller (but still six figure) whole life policy. I also have disability insurance. My employer has disability insurance for me as well, but as a single mom, I felt I needed a bit of additional income in the event I became disabled (probably more likely than that I would die at my age). The best thing to do is talk to your insurance agent about what your family would really need to replace your income.
 
Thank you for the info about AD&D. I'd never encountered it before as my previous company only gave regular life insurance to its employees. Sounds like I will keep only the minimal AD&D coverage that my company provides and just purchase additional life insurance. I've never had life insurance beyond a small employer-provided policy but now that DB is born I know my partner and I both need more.
 
DH and I have $250k through State Farm, 20 year term. I got mine when I was 29, DH had just turned 34. I pay $25 per month for mine and DH pays $75 per month for his. His is higher due to pre-existing health conditions.
 
my husband is 48. He just retired and we need to buy life insurance within the next 4 months. What kind of insurance policy should we get?
Im 45 and have a 401k.
We are both healthy and non-smokers.
Term or Life? what is the difference?
 
my husband is 48. He just retired and we need to buy life insurance within the next 4 months. What kind of insurance policy should we get? Im 45 and have a 401k. We are both healthy and non-smokers. Term or Life? what is the difference?

You most likely do not need any.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_insurance

There are so many variables, that I doubt anybody here will tackle your question.
Do you have any children living with you?
Do you have a large mortgage balance?
Would the death of either of you have a devastating financial impact of the survivor?

If you answer "No" - why would you pay for insurance?
 
The rule of thumb is to have 5 years of income, plus four years of college for each kid and the mortgage paid off. This should be on both parents. This allows a non-working parent time to get back to work, time to deal with the situation and not worry about losing everything. For the working spouse it allows them helpers (housekeeper, daycare).
 
my husband is 48. He just retired and we need to buy life insurance within the next 4 months. What kind of insurance policy should we get?
Im 45 and have a 401k.
We are both healthy and non-smokers.
Term or Life? what is the difference?

It really depends on a lot of other factors. How much money you need every month, how much debt you have, how many dependants you support (and it's not just kids, do you have an elderly parent you may need to provide for?).

Generally, once a couple have grown kids that they aren't financially supporting any more, they don't need as much insurance, or may not need it at all. By the time you're retired, you should be "self insured", meaning you have so much in retirment savings, pensions, etc. and little to no debt (paid off house, paid off cars, no CC debt) that you don't need insurance.

Assuming you still have kids that are aproching college or are in college, and you still have a mortgage and some other debt, some sort of term policy is likely a good idea. Term insurance is for a set amount for a set term, usually 20-30 years. At your age, 20 years should be enough time, only you can figure out what you'll need. Suze Orman says you should have a big enough lump sum that if you invest it at 5% return a year, you can use that return to replace all or most of the lost income of deceased person. Others say you should have enough to pay off all the debt and college for the kids, and have enough left over to carry you through 5 years or so until you're back on your feet. It all depends on what you feel comfortable with, and what you can afford.

Stay away from Whole Life (also known as Universal Life and a few other names). It's more expensive and even though agents advertise it as an "investment", it's a really bad one. The only good thing about it is that it coveres you forever, unlike term that expires after 20-30 years. But as I said earlier, by the time you're retired, you really shouldn't need insurance at all, so it's still just a waste.
 
I've got 20 year term, split between 3 different policies, all of which expire at different times. One is a little bit bigger than our mortgage started out, and expires 20 years into a 30-year mortgage, and was intended as "if anything happens, you won't have to worry about a place to live" insurance. One was 5 times what I was making at the time, and expires when DD turns 18, and was intended as "gives DD a stay-at-home-parent for a couple years then covers education to get back into the workforce" insurance. The third, added to the second, brings us up to 5 times what I'm making now plus a little bit, and will expire when DD is 25. Since we're currently a two-income household, and don't have to put aside so much for one parent going back to school to become employable or other employment-related contingencies, that money would likely be DD's college fund.

I'm probably over-insured at the moment, because I've got retirement money (what the market hasn't eaten up!) and HSA money, both of which would be available if I died quick-and-cheap, rather than slow-and-expensive. But the third policy was really, really cheap through a professional association, and the first two policies were written by insurance agents who are also my clients (so have value beyond just the policy itself).
 
I thought we were probably under-insured before reading some of these posts. I think, though, that only you can be the judge of how much life insurance you need/can afford. What are your goals if something should happen to yourself or your DH?

We are in a similar position to you -- both in our young-30's with 2 small kids. If anything happens to DH, I want to make sure I can continue to be a SAHM for several years at least. So, he is currently insured on a 20-year term policy at ~$700k at a monthly premium of about $28. I'm the one that's really under-insured. I have a 20-year term $100k policy at a monthly premium of about $4. We get these through DH's work, so we are getting slightly lower premiums than what we could get on the open market. That's also why I'm under-insured -- they only allow a max of $100k on spouses. But, since our mortage is paid, we have very little debt, and a good start on retirement/investment/college accounts, that policy would still go a ways in getting DH and the boys started if something happened to me.

Sorry to ramble so, but hopefully the thought-process on how we are insured will help you consider what you may need.
 


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