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[Sunset Cliffs]

We went to Knotts a few times when I was a kid and I remember sitting in those wagons! What a great memory. I also loved the log ride and I remember an ice skating show (complete with 80's music and laser lights ). Such good memories. Even then, though, I remember feeling like the park felt pretty run-down compared to DL. Does it still feel that way? The last time we went to that park was probably 10 years ago for "Knott's Scary Farm" for Halloween, and it was SCARY!

I'm glad that you were able to get past the breakfast incident and have a nice morning. It helps that the park was pretty empty!

 

[eandesmom]

Finally!! KBF! Grew up there. In fact, went there about 1 time for every 2 went to DLR.

My favorite was the crafty things you could make- like colored sand in a bottle. Of course, the Corkscrew and Montezuma's Revenge were ridden ad nauseum. Pun intended.

LOVE the rhubarb crisp- but that's coming up, I guess.


Eggs. Right on up there with bananas. Gag me. Omelets are oK, a little, but scrambled?? I'd have happily thrown up just to NOT Have to eat them.

Rhubarb Crisp huh? Hmmmnnn. Colored sand, those things are fun! Evan really wanted a caricature but decided not to blow all his $$ since he only had enough for a B&W and i wasn't kicking in extra.

We went to Knotts a few times when I was a kid and I remember sitting in those wagons! What a great memory. I also loved the log ride and I remember an ice skating show (complete with 80's music and laser lights ). Such good memories. Even then, though, I remember feeling like the park felt pretty run-down compared to DL. Does it still feel that way? The last time we went to that park was probably 10 years ago for "Knott's Scary Farm" for Halloween, and it was SCARY!

I'm glad that you were able to get past the breakfast incident and have a nice morning. It helps that the park was pretty empty!

It's not Disney for sure and a few of the rides looked a little tired but for the most part it was not really run down, it's just a really different experience.

Ice skating show, how fun!

 

[englishrose47]

How awesome you got to see Jordan !!! Your pix of everything are great!!! I have had a very stressful week with Judy having emergency surgery on Tuesday and me just back from Lake George !!Thankfully she is home and doing very well so that scare is over !!I have sooo much to catch up on at work !! I am way behind on the Dis too !!! Hopefully next week I will have more time !!

 

[eandesmom]

How awesome you got to see Jordan !!! Your pix of everything are great!!! I have had a very stressful week with Judy having emergency surgery on Tuesday and me just back from Lake George !!Thankfully she is home and doing very well so that scare is over !!I have sooo much to catch up on at work !! I am way behind on the Dis too !!! Hopefully next week I will have more time !!

Oh Rosie! I'm so glad Judy is ok, how incredibly stressful. It was so great to meet Jordan (as you know!) I'm behind everywhere too....

 

[eandesmom]

I need a beating my head against the wall smilie.

I got an email from Sandie on Friday. Bear in mind right now she and Paul are scheduled to be with us 8/12-8/19 at the YC only. We arrive 8/11 with one night at POP and then have 3 nights at HRC over at Universal.

While she was here we discussed, ad naseum, the trip, them joining us at Universal, etc. And made decisions, leaving it (we thought) at they'd re-look at staying 1-2 days later so they could join us at Universal.

Here is what her email said

Do you think that Paul and I would be able to go over the Harry Potter one of the days we are there with you? We won't be able to stay later because of a commitment for church Paul has. How far away is it from where we are staying? And, do you know if you need to make advance reservations? ​

This was followed by

I am coming on the 12th and Paul is not going to be able to come until the 14th. He has been the Chairman of a Committee to get a school named after a woman friend of his who was the Superintendent of the XXX Public Schools for many years. He and his committee succeeded and they are naming a whole complex after her ON AUGUST 13. He has no choice but to be at the dedication as he will be speaking at it and has put 3 years of effort into it. more later. Love you
​

Sigh.

Ok. I get the thing on the 13th, we both do. But the church conflict after the 19th? HE IS RETIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!! So now he's only coming for 5 days, 4 nights and they want to ditch us for a day?

Jeff almost lost it.

"NO!" he said. "Just tell her they can go but we aren't going with her. Wait, I'll tell her, she's my mom, I can talk to her like that."

Did he email her or call her?

No.

Final payment is due 6/28. Any changes need to happen NOW.

I talked to her yesterday, not really about this, she was (still is actually) trying to order Evan something for his birthday and I'm not sure who is worse, Evan's pickiness or hers! Anyway, she wanted to chat to get direction on what to buy and it was easier than email. So we chatted a little bit about it. The jist of it was....

Sure, you can. We won't go and it will be miserable without the 1 hour early access and the FOTL passes and the ability to cool off mid day in the pool but hey, by all means ditch us for one of the FIVE days he's there.

No, not really like that but....still. I cannot believe for as much as she complains about (not) seeing the kids she would do this. Jeff thinks it Paul wanting to go to WWOHP but who really knows.

I asked about the "conflict" at the end of the trip. Doesn't really sound like there is one, it's just the day they'd "always" planned to come back. So....whatever. Maybe they will come late and stay late, sliding their trip, maybe they won't. Maybe they will ditch us for a day, maybe they won't. I honestly don't know. She's going to "talk to Paul".

Problem is I think things get lost in translation!



I've heard from her 3 times today on other things but not this.

On the positive side....it's LESS THAN TWO MONTHS AWAY now! I wish it was tomorrow.

And Jeff and I had a lovely date night last night, that's always a good thing.

Up next DCA Day 3, a Knotty day continues!

 

[DisMomAmy]

I can totally understand how you are feeling right now! This happens to us a lot when we visit DH's brother & family as part of our Disney trips. First they want to come on the weekend, then they want to come during the week. First they want to join us for one park day, then it becomes two or three. It's very frustrating! Probably more so for you since we had the flexibility of our condo this year.

Hang in there... it will all work out.

And for the record, Tim doesn't want anyone to join us at Disney next year. But he has to be the one to tell them... so we'll see how well that goes over.

 

[Charleston Princess]

How frustrating, Cynthia!!! I hope some decisions are made soon for your own peace of mind!

 

[eandesmom]

I can totally understand how you are feeling right now! This happens to us a lot when we visit DH's brother & family as part of our Disney trips. First they want to come on the weekend, then they want to come during the week. First they want to join us for one park day, then it becomes two or three. It's very frustrating! Probably more so for you since we had the flexibility of our condo this year.

Hang in there... it will all work out.

And for the record, Tim doesn't want anyone to join us at Disney next year. But he has to be the one to tell them... so we'll see how well that goes over.

Oh I know you of all people totally get it Amy! Yours is a roller coaster! I don't think it would bug us as much if it wasn't for the guilt trip Jeff always gets about her not seeing the kids enough.

Now, on the flip side, if they do decide to slide their trip, we have a plan, or maybe 2 that could actually save us a lot of $$ but....not going to think too much about it until they decide. It kind of gives me a headache as a number of scenarios have opened up. And I'm telling you (and them) no changes after 6/28 unless it's upgrades! Adding tickets, dining plan, etc. The rest is OFF LIMITS!



We'll see how well that goes.

 

[eandesmom]

How frustrating, Cynthia!!! I hope some decisions are made soon for your own peace of mind!

me too! Trying to roll with it, while coming up with options for them that are options and not just NO.



we have flights so we are going those dates, no matter what. But if they aren't at the YC the same dates we are we do have to make changes as we are too big for one room. So....

we will see.

 

[winkers]

I need a beating my head against the wall smilie.

ask and ye shall recieve........

Oh the joys of planning a vacation with the in-laws!
My opinion is stick to what you have planned and let them figure out their "stuff". I know, it's so much easier said than done!

My inner control freak hyperventilates at just the thought of planning a joint trip to disney!

 

[Sunset Cliffs]

I feel your pain. We are quite possibly going back to WDW with my family (8 ppl total) and there has already been multiple phone calls & emails. Your update made me smile & shake my head because it sounds very familiar, and I'm a little scared about what lies in my future.

I think you need to plan what will make you happy and go with it. If they choose to change their plans, then it is their choice. Let them figure out how to get to the park, transportation, buying tickets and all of the other details. I bet that they will change their mind back.

 

[eandesmom]

ask and ye shall recieve........

Oh the joys of planning a vacation with the in-laws!
My opinion is stick to what you have planned and let them figure out their "stuff". I know, it's so much easier said than done!

My inner control freak hyperventilates at just the thought of planning a joint trip to disney!

you spoon sista! those are great.

Yeah, easier said than done. At the end of the day, everyone needs to feel good about things and not forced into anything or deprived of anything.

And the reality is I can't afford to pay for 2 rooms at the YC if they aren't there. So as much as Jeff and I can say, here is our plan, take it or leave it, we will have to make changes if they both change their dates.

It will work out, this much I know but I would sure like it resolved and put to bed sooner than later!

It would be easier if they were here. Arranging things and trying to explain things long distance...bleh. Jeff and I are annoyed as we feel like we've had the "here is the best way to go to WWOHP" conversation with them a bazillion times and they aren't listening. Sandie's never been to WDW and does not "get" it, at all. She will after the trip but now....not a clue.

I feel your pain. We are quite possibly going back to WDW with my family (8 ppl total) and there has already been multiple phone calls & emails. Your update made me smile & shake my head because it sounds very familiar, and I'm a little scared about what lies in my future.

I think you need to plan what will make you happy and go with it. If they choose to change their plans, then it is their choice. Let them figure out how to get to the park, transportation, buying tickets and all of the other details. I bet that they will change their mind back.

My family would be far easier to travel with, they "get" it and are planners. My in laws, not so much.



Guaranteed I will let them manage how to get there and back and buy tickets if they really do this. I don't think they will after we pointed out how miserable it will be but you never know! What bugs me, more than Jeff, is it feels rude! I need to get over it.

 

[Native NYer]

That is so frustrating! It would drive me crazy.
I hope everything works out

 

[jenjolt]

Ughhh...what a frustrating thing to have to deal with!! That is no fun at all!!! UGGGHHHHHH.....my OCD would not be able to handle it...so you are a saint in my book LOL!!!! Maybe this is why I go alone on trips LOL!!!!

I'm sure it will all work out one way or another!!!! Just enjoy the fact that the trip is coming up so soon!!!!!!!

 

[Sleepingbooty]

I was going to hunt you down the appropriate smilie, but Cherie beat me to it.

I guess I'm lucky that my parents just let me basically plan the whole trip. I complain sometime that I wish I could get everybody more involved in the planning process - but really, I don't!

Eggs. Right on up there with bananas. Gag me. Omelets are oK, a little, but scrambled?? I'd have happily thrown up just to NOT Have to eat them.

Me too, Liesa. I'll only eat eggs if they've got so many onions, mushrooms, peppers, and sausage in them that you can't taste them.

 

[eandesmom]

That is so frustrating! It would drive me crazy.
I hope everything works out

Well we are going regardless so from my perspective it will work out, it's just a matter of who where and when.

I don't know why but I have a sneaking feeling she is avoiding talking to Paul about it. Hopefully I will hear from her soon, that clock is ticking! We have two weeks to address this and I may die if they leave it till the 11th hour.



Heard from her 10 times on Evan's birthday gift but nothing on this.

Ughhh...what a frustrating thing to have to deal with!! That is no fun at all!!! UGGGHHHHHH.....my OCD would not be able to handle it...so you are a saint in my book LOL!!!! Maybe this is why I go alone on trips LOL!!!!

I'm sure it will all work out one way or another!!!! Just enjoy the fact that the trip is coming up so soon!!!!!!!

Well I'm not being all that saint like about it. I'm fine with the thing on the 13th, but the ditching us for a day concept really bugs me and I need to get over it. On the positive side I have waited to really do any kind of touring plans and am SOOO glad I have! My binder was going to have to wait until after the wedding anyways and it's a darn good thing.

I was going to hunt you down the appropriate smilie, but Cherie beat me to it.

I guess I'm lucky that my parents just let me basically plan the whole trip. I complain sometime that I wish I could get everybody more involved in the planning process - but really, I don't!

Me too, Liesa. I'll only eat eggs if they've got so many onions, mushrooms, peppers, and sausage in them that you can't taste them.

Oh I want them involved, the last thing I need is resentment due to people spending a lot of money on a trip they didn't have input on. It will work out, just annoying. I think the hard part isn't the fact that they might need to make changes, it's the waiting in between providing them information to make a decision! Which reminds me, I do need to follow p with my parents to see if they've made a decision about joining us. They can't think about it too much until after the wedding either so if they do go, it is kind of a last minute add on. But we may not have room in our room after all...

You guys are funny about the eggs. I love eggs but will agree, cold they are pretty nasty!

 

[Diamondintheruff]

Reading your last update had me thankful that when my parents have joined us at WDW they just let me tell them when to go and what to pay. Once again my moo will be joining us on our next trip for the dance competition. She's a trouper. I think I will send her a quick thank you email right now. Thanks for reminding me.

On the flip side, I've been trying to convince my brother and his wife to come to WDW with us for years. I've been excited about going with them but I can totally see them not understanding the way things work and changing things on me last minute. Maybe I'm best to just continue our joint vacations at the cottage instead?

You might have Jeff remind Sandie that there is so much to do that it can't be done in one trip. You'll all just have to go back again. That is if you can bear the thought of organizing another one of these trips LOL!

 

[eandesmom]

Reading your last update had me thankful that when my parents have joined us at WDW they just let me tell them when to go and what to pay. Once again my moo will be joining us on our next trip for the dance competition. She's a trouper. I think I will send her a quick thank you email right now. Thanks for reminding me.

On the flip side, I've been trying to convince my brother and his wife to come to WDW with us for years. I've been excited about going with them but I can totally see them not understanding the way things work and changing things on me last minute. Maybe I'm best to just continue our joint vacations at the cottage instead?

You might have Jeff remind Sandie that there is so much to do that it can't be done in one trip. You'll all just have to go back again. That is if you can bear the thought of organizing another one of these trips LOL!

my parents are pretty good that way. Sandie is high maintenance even when she just visits us here so we expected a degree of this.

Honestly what would be ideal is if we had just booked ours and they did theirs separately, it is cleaner that way. The problem is she gets too overwhelmed to do it so it was easier for us to book it. And the reality is, as a family of 6, sharing rooms is the only way YC would work and be affordable. So for the "you book yours" plan to work, it would have had to be at a totally different resort and our cost would have been higher so....it's a good/bad thing.

I admit, I have been checking our options to rebook for just the 6 of us, I just don't like the options.

If I was going with my siblings I think everyone would book separately unless we were renting a house. Which I just can't see going back to!

 

[mickeysmyboy]

UGH! I can totally see why you're frustrated! I'd be soo annoyed! Do they realize that things will be pretty much set in stone soon?!

Just think positive and know that things will all work out in the end and you'll have a fabulous trip!

 

[englishrose47]

When The family goes Judy just leaves it all to me !! Then complains about itJust kidding !!!!Only thing she complained about was not having a preferred room !!! So next year it will be 60's preferred !!!
Now when her friend invited herself along I knew there would be trouble but thank goodness she went with someone else and they had major fights !!!Our planning was going like this
Me : We are staying at Pop
Her: Everone says AllStars is better and Mike wants to stay in Sports
Me We don't have to do everything together
Her Oh but together is sooooo much better !!
Always she ended by saying what ever I wanted but .......I was sooo glad when she didn't go !!Cuz her idea of doing everything TOGETHER meant doing what she wanted to do!!!!