Let's get one thing straight

[Crankyshank]

Rich. Thanks for your thoughts, and also for copying "The Charge of the Light Brigade".

It's amazing how you can insulte a who group of people you do not know. You ask my husband how much I "hate the military and everything they stand for." You ask this army division I live upon how much I hate what they stand for yet volunteer ovedr 1,000 hours of my time a year and you can double that when they are gone. You ask a dead soldiers family how much I hate the military when I'm on their doorstep to answer the phone and direct the news media away from their door.

You need to maybe meet every so called liberal in this country before you spout off about things you don't know about and then come back and have a rational educated conversation.

unfortunately you are wasting your breath in this case, sad to say. Personally I think JPN's comments are a slap in the face to all our service people who disagree with the war, and yet are still out there fighting for the freedom for people like JPN to shoot their mouths off and declare who is or isn't a real American.

Guess I shouldn't have sent off those care packages this morning, or donated about $500 worth of used books this afternoon for a books for troops drive. Being unsupportive of the military and all. and there wasn't a single camera around. shockers, huh?

 

[bekkiz]

I don't get this at all. I don't want any American, esp. those in the military to die. So, how is it unsupportive that I hope they are removed from a dangerous situation and are able to be at (or near) home with their families.

That people want to put more and more Americans in harms way...well, the doesn't sound very supportive at all.

ETA: I don't want anyone, regardless of nationality to die...I realize it sounds like I only care about our contrymen and women. I would much prefer to see everyone live out their lives to the fullest I was just making the point that calling liberals "unAmerican" is a little stupid.

 

[magicmato]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

Wow. You know all liberals? When did we meet and when did we chat so you could know my feelings toward the military?

Sorry, you are wrong, sadly misguided, and your prejudices are showing. You cannot categorize people like that. Not everyone who is 'liberal' are the same, just as not everyone who is 'conservative' would agree with you, thankfully.

 

[Sparx]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

No. Libs hate everything people like you stand for.

I live with a vet. I respect him more every day. Everytime I see something come across the news about bombings or shootings or anything like that, I respect him for giving people like YOU the freedom to say such close minded and ignorant things about people like ME.

 

[TDC Nala]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

I don't think they hate the military these days. I think they hate Bush, and, secondarily, Republicans.

They're entitled to, but some people see everything through their hatred of Bush. And some others see everything through their hatred of hatred of Bush. It goes on.

 

["Got Disney"]

I want to add that the troops are also doing wonderfull things with rebuilding schools, helping the farmers with irrigation,helping buisnesses get up and running...and so many great things....

WE live in SanDiego...very military.. and have many friends familys over there and the soldiers are pissed off that the only thing being shown is the bad stuff.....

I hate war and have always hated it....but there is not just bad coming out of it ..there is also alot of good!!!!

yes...I want all the soldiers to come home....

 

[lovemygoofy]

I've talked with to many lib's already. The story is always the same. We support the troops in front of the camera or in a public group, but in private they wouldn't help them if their lives depended on it. The military on the other hand will support all Americans at all times.

I know I'm just waisting my time typing but I can't help it. I want to say that you really need to look at some of the people you use your ugly hate brush on. I'm sorry you all think we are all talk and no action. You can be invited to come on over and see the 101st Airborne Division, Ft. Campbell, KY. I'll take you all over and introduce you to so many people that don't have the close mind set that you do and hopefully that would help.

Or I could just say we all know for certain the Fred Phelps of the hate family in KS is anything but liberal and he does squat for the military but spew hate at them. I sure hope that isn't the side you want to associate yourself with either. Maybe we can find a middle ground for people who just want the best for the people of this country and go out of their way to do good acts to keep these people serving our country going.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

Yes, You are absolutely right..I am a lib and I hate the military..And my Lob friend who is on active duty in the navy,he hates the military.. You're right...You have figured us out

 

["Got Disney"]

Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

By the way...It is the RADICAL islamics...not Islamics....don't ever forget that...to many people think because you are Islamic that you must be a terrorist....

 

[BuckNaked]

I don't believe that you have to support the war in order to support the troops, nor do I believe that you have to support the Bush administration in order to support the troops.

However I also believe that there is a sizable minority of people that don't support the troops, but won't say so out loud because it isn't PC to do so. I think that William Arkin wrote what many people, even people that will talk the talk on troop support, think but don't want to say for fear of criticism.

I'm not saying this pertains to anyone here, but I know people, not many, but some, that never had a good word to say about the military or the troops, but now feel that they have to keep their feelings to themselves.

 

[JennyMominRI]

That's a rather insulting assumption.

Would the liberal who doesn't care about our soldiers please stand up and provide weight to JPN4265's opinion?



Rich::

Better yet..Lets pull all of the Liberals and Democrats out of the military,since they hate themselves... That poster can go stand on a military base,watch the soldiers come home and yell at the ones who are libs and tell them how much they hate their country and their military... This is just rediculous unless you really believe that everyone on active duty is a conservative.

 

[hackorydackorydac]

I'm a vet and a "liberal". I still have many friends and family members who are actively serving. I think the war was and is an awful mistake and I love my active duty friends and family and support all of the troops there.

I'm not sure how I fit into JPN's world vision. I'm guessing that I really don't.

 

["Got Disney"]

I am sorry but have to add this...don't you posters get that there are 2 things that you can't argue about because there is no winning...for either side/sides....

They are Politics and Religion.....

I love a good debate ...never a fight and so if someone can't debate a political or Religious statement with a debate...and going in knowing that the other will not change the others mind...than I don't waist my time....

Have a Debate...not a war....about this subject...

 

[freckles and boo]

Both my grandfathers served in WWII. My dad's dad was in France and later Japan. My mom's dad was in Burma and other parts of Asia. My dad was a reservist during Vietnam and my uncle was active duty and spent too much time "in-country" - his life has been profoundly affected by it. My brother recently finished his active duty time with the Marines after two tours in Iraq. They could still "reactivate" him within the next two years. Two of my friends from college are Naval officers with tremedous responsibilities. One just finished her time in the Persian Gulf and the other (her husband) will be there until August. My "step-nephew" is also a sailor serving "somewhere". I love all these people. I respect the choices they have made and am grateful that they have helped to preserve our way of life. I am also grateful that they have all survived their time of service. To suggest that I feel otherwise because I am a "lib" is deeply insulting.

 

[cardaway]

Let's not forget the conservatives that are finally getting the guts to come forward and say they are against it as well.

At this point it is Vietnam all over again.

 

[bsnyder]

I don't believe that you have to support the war in order to support the troops, nor do I believe that you have to support the Bush administration in order to support the troops.

However I also believe that there is a sizable minority of people that don't support the troops, but won't say so out loud because it isn't PC to do so. I think that William Arkin wrote what many people, even people that will talk the talk on troop support, think but don't want to say for fear of criticism.

I'm not saying this pertains to anyone here, but I know people, not many, but some, that never had a good word to say about the military or the troops, but now feel that they have to keep their feelings to themselves.

What she said.

And along the lines of Arkin, there's this:

http://bridgenews.org/news/0207/bellaciao

 

["Got Disney"]

Let's not forget the conservatives that are finally getting the guts to come forward and say they are against it as well.

At this point it is Vietnam all over again.

Sorry but I compleately disagree with this 100%....there was no good what so ever to come out of Vietnam...I lost family members in vietnam and it was a wasted war that was fought not for terrorism.

There were no schools built..no Farmers helped...no Hospitals reconstructed...no school supplies sent and so on and so on....

it was just kill or be killed and fighting in swamps...those soldiers were spit on and humiliated...from back here in the US and called baby killers. There was not even any celebrations when the soldiers came back....

sorry but it is a sore subject with me...

I wish this war never started but it did and IMo pulling out know would be a bad mistake....if I however had to vote to stay in or pull out..I would vote pull out because to many lives have been lost already.

 

[AuntieM03]

I don't care if you are liberal or conservative, for or against the war as long as our troops come home and are welcomed and not spit on I think we have learned a valuable lesson.

 

[NewJersey]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

I don't care that this might get me points but I have to say this:

you are an idiot.

I rarely think people are but this post has to take the cake.

 

[Feralpeg]

Heard this B.S. before, didn't buy it than, not going to buy it now. Lib's hate the military and everything they stand for. I only hope the day doesn't come in our country when all the lib's wake up 6' underground and wonder why they no longer have any freedom's. Today the enemy is the islamic terrorist, tomorrow who knows. If we don't come together and win this war, tomorrow won't really matter.

And, here I'd always assumed only God could read my mind. Please don't tell me what I'm thinking or feeling. I totally support our military. I personally know and care about some brave young people serving in Iraq at this time. I don't, however, agree with the actions our government has taken. I consider myself a liberal, but I am a proud American as well.