Let the Prom Drama CONTINUE . . . . . . . .

[Sandy V.]

Okay, so what happened with DS and the GF? Is he doing okay?

Yeah, inquiring minds want to know . . .

I am not going to be able to get through the prior posts because the U.S. Supreme Court has issued several opinions today and I have to help analyze them. That darned work . . . getting in the way again.

We leave tomorrow morning for Nebraska. Will pick up DD after she gets off work at noon, and then head to Cheyenne, Wyoming to buy some fireworks. We have a long drive ahead of us, and won't get in to MIL's place until around 10:00 p.m. (she lives just north of Omaha).

On Saturday, the family will gather at MIL's house for a barbecue and reunion. Like I said before, I am VERY curious about nephew's wife and what kind of impression she makes. We'll shoot off the fireworks that evening.

We'll leave fairly early on Sunday to come back. So it will be a quick turnaround, but with busy summer schedules and jobs, there's not really any other choice. We would rather have the opportunity to see family, even for a short time, than to not do so at all.

Rosie, the flame hawkfish, took another piece of fish off my tongs!! Victory!! We also have a new creature that just sprung up in the tank. It's called a Feather Duster, and it has the makings of a really pretty creature. They are actually a type of worm, but it's a "good" worm so not to worry.

I don't know if I'll get the chance to be on again later today or tomorrow. I will try to - but if I don't, I hope that everyone has a wonderful weekend.

 

[mamacatnv]

Okay, so what happened with DS and the GF? Is he doing okay?

Oh sorry, I'm a little behind as usual I have been following a couple of controversial subject threads - dang, I need a life!

Let's see, where did I leave off................

DS has breakfast with FGF (former girlfriend) she called him, wanted to talk. Evidently things are not going so well with loser replacement and she misses DS. (can I just say I want to smack some sense into that boys head) anyway. He says to me "I think we have figured out how to be friends" (Boys are stupid!) I don't say much because I know at this point anything I say he is not going to hear.
He is happy once again and we proceed to the Oral Surgeon. Good news, he only has 1 wisdom tooth, it is showing and the Surgeon is going to take it out in 2 weeks.

Last night BFF and I are sitting around the patio when DS gets home, so we are all chatting. He says he talked to FGF today......this is his story:
Tuesday night – she sends him a text “I miss you”
Wednesday morning – they “talk” he says to me, “yeah, we agree we both need to do our own things for awhile” I look at him and I ask point blank “you really think that or is it more what FGF thinks?” and I said, “be honest” he says “it’s more FGF” I said nothing but in my little brain I went – uhh huh, just as I suspected.

So then he says, “I just want her to hurry up and graduate from high school so we can move on” – ummm, the boy does not get it, she is ready to move on and at the same time not completely cutting the cord meanwhile he is hanging on a little piece of hope. He is taking her to see a movie today – I know I raised him better, for goodness sakes, he lives with queen pessimist has he learned nothing! First love sucks..........

It ticks me off – Mainly as BFF and I Discussed the other night. We were 17 once, this is all about who gives you the most stuff, the best time etc. This IMO is not about real emotions on her part, but DS has it bad for her.

I Feel like he is being used.
I Feel like he is being stupid

BUT

I do remember how it feels to be dumped. I do remember wanting to get back together with someone so bad it physically hurt and I do remember how intense those feelings are. So, it makes me mad and I hope he doesn't step off that cliff and if he does I hope he learns something and doesn't do it twice but this is one of those life lessons. Right now he is all happy that they can be friends. Oh I hope he comes to his senses sooner rather than later.

I honestly never thought I would see DS get manipulated the way he is being manipulated, really shows how powerful those emotions are. Dangit I should have taught him to be a jerk until he is finished with college. But no, I have a NICE boy

 

[Sandy V.]

Oh sorry, I'm a little behind as usual I have been following a couple of controversial subject threads - dang, I need a life!

Let's see, where did I leave off................

DS has breakfast with FGF (former girlfriend) she called him, wanted to talk. Evidently things are not going so well with loser replacement and she misses DS. (can I just say I want to smack some sense into that boys head) anyway. He says to me "I think we have figured out how to be friends" (Boys are stupid!) I don't say much because I know at this point anything I say he is not going to hear.
He is happy once again and we proceed to the Oral Surgeon. Good news, he only has 1 wisdom tooth, it is showing and the Surgeon is going to take it out in 2 weeks.

Last night BFF and I are sitting around the patio when DS gets home, so we are all chatting. He says he talked to FGF today......this is his story:
Tuesday night – she sends him a text “I miss you”
Wednesday morning – they “talk” he says to me, “yeah, we agree we both need to do our own things for awhile” I look at him and I ask point blank “you really think that or is it more what FGF thinks?” and I said, “be honest” he says “it’s more FGF” I said nothing but in my little brain I went – uhh huh, just as I suspected.

So then he says, “I just want her to hurry up and graduate from high school so we can move on” – ummm, the boy does not get it, she is ready to move on and at the same time not completely cutting the cord meanwhile he is hanging on a little piece of hope. He is taking her to see a movie today – I know I raised him better, for goodness sakes, he lives with queen pessimist has he learned nothing! First love sucks..........

It ticks me off – Mainly as BFF and I Discussed the other night. We were 17 once, this is all about who gives you the most stuff, the best time etc. This IMO is not about real emotions on her part, but DS has it bad for her.

I Feel like he is being used.
I Feel like he is being stupid

BUT

I do remember how it feels to be dumped. I do remember wanting to get back together with someone so bad it physically hurt and I do remember how intense those feelings are. So, it makes me mad and I hope he doesn't step off that cliff and if he does I hope he learns something and doesn't do it twice but this is one of those life lessons. Right now he is all happy that they can be friends. Oh I hope he comes to his senses sooner rather than later.

I honestly never thought I would see DS get manipulated the way he is being manipulated, really shows how powerful those emotions are. Dangit I should have taught him to be a jerk until he is finished with college. But no, I have a NICE boy

Oh, Melissa, I'm sorry. We have "been there" with DS and it just makes you want to pound your head against a wall. I have a nice boy just like you do, and it really tears you up inside when they let these girls walk all over them. It usually takes DS a long time to figure it out, but he usually does.

We're here for you any time you want to vent!!!!

 

[mamacatnv]

Sandy: Have a safe trip and take notes on the Nephews wife, we want all the details when you return.

Dang Supreme Court, what are they thinking, don't they know you have a social agenda to keep up with!

A worm that just sprung up did you know it was in the tank? If not, where did it come from?

Sounds like Rosie the fish has some personality to her - it is a she right? Can one actually tell? Heck, I don't know anything about fish

 

[mamacatnv]

Oh, Melissa, I'm sorry. We have "been there" with DS and it just makes you want to pound your head against a wall. I have a nice boy just like you do, and it really tears you up inside when they let these girls walk all over them. It usually takes DS a long time to figure it out, but he usually does.

We're here for you any time you want to vent!!!!

It is nice to know there is hope.

 

[Sandy V.]

Sandy: Have a safe trip and take notes on the Nephews wife, we want all the details when you return.

Dang Supreme Court, what are they thinking, don't they know you have a social agenda to keep up with!

A worm that just sprung up did you know it was in the tank? If not, where did it come from?

Sounds like Rosie the fish has some personality to her - it is a she right? Can one actually tell? Heck, I don't know anything about fish

Thanks! Yeah, the Supreme Court is pretty thoughtless!

I don't quite understand the appearance of the Feather Duster. My understanding is that sometimes the rocks you use in the aquarium harbor all sorts of stuff in them. The aquarium guys try and put them in solutions to kill most of the harmful stuff, but just like they say in Jurassic Park, "Life finds a way".

We have no idea if Rosie is a boy or a girl!! We just started naming a few them when they were the only one of their type in the tank or they had some readily identifiable feature/characteristic. Dumb, I know, but at least it's an easy way to talk about them in conversation.

Have a good one. I hope that your heart (and your DS's) doesn't hurt too badly. If you're anything like me, it's probably not a good time to give you a baseball bat - you'd want to USE it on DS's former GF!!!

 

[mamacatnv]

Thanks! Yeah, the Supreme Court is pretty thoughtless!

I don't quite understand the appearance of the Feather Duster. My understanding is that sometimes the rocks you use in the aquarium harbor all sorts of stuff in them. The aquarium guys try and put them in solutions to kill most of the harmful stuff, but just like they say in Jurassic Park, "Life finds a way".

We have no idea if Rosie is a boy or a girl!! We just started naming a few them when they were the only one of their type in the tank or they had some readily identifiable feature/characteristic. Dumb, I know, but at least it's an easy way to talk about them in conversation.

Have a good one. I hope that your heart (and your DS's) doesn't hurt too badly. If you're anything like me, it's probably not a good time to give you a baseball bat - you'd want to USE it on DS's former GF!!!

I just googled the feather duster - I have seen those before. The local Petco where DD and I get her rat supplies has a few, they are fascinating to watch how quickly they hide and then start to peek out again.

Empty nester is now naming the fish so she can have a conversation, hummmmm And my DD thought I was losing it the other day when I was conversing with Deck'ster! who at least squeaks back!

You know, I'm not too mad at FGF, this is all part of the age. I am annoyed with her and annoyed that DS is falling for it more than I am mad at her, if that makes any sense at all. Given her home life and her age, she really doesn't know any different. Along comes my loveable loyal son and he is a train wreck waiting to happen. He only knows loyalty, that is what he was raised with.
He will have to learn, just like we all did at one point in our lives.

Thanks for the kind thoughts - this is more frustrating than I thought it would be. He is not as "tough" as he likes everyone to think he is, despite his size, he is a teddy bear.

 

[Sandy V.]

I just googled the feather duster - I have seen those before. The local Petco where DD and I get her rat supplies has a few, they are fascinating to watch how quickly they hide and then start to peek out again.

Empty nester is now naming the fish so she can have a conversation, hummmmm And my DD thought I was losing it the other day when I was conversing with Deck'ster! who at least squeaks back!

You know, I'm not too mad at FGF, this is all part of the age. I am annoyed with her and annoyed that DS is falling for it more than I am mad at her, if that makes any sense at all. Given her home life and her age, she really doesn't know any different. Along comes my loveable loyal son and he is a train wreck waiting to happen. He only knows loyalty, that is what he was raised with.
He will have to learn, just like we all did at one point in our lives.

Thanks for the kind thoughts - this is more frustrating than I thought it would be. He is not as "tough" as he likes everyone to think he is, despite his size, he is a teddy bear.

I guess naming the fish is the start of the decline . . .

I see your point about being annoyed, but boy, the chances are pretty strong that your DS is going to get hurt again here, and my "Mama Bear" claws come out when it happens around here. Very hard to keep my mouth shut, but, like you, I just bite my tongue until it's ready to bleed!!

Oh - forgot to tell all of you that we bought Jersey Boys and Mamma Mia tickets for our New York trip. And Lewis Black (profane, but insanely funny comedian) is playing here in Colorado Springs they night before we leave, so I got tickets for him as well. So we have some plans all ready to go!!!

 

[mamacatnv]

I guess naming the fish is the start of the decline . . .

I would not be too concerned unless you buy it a purse to take it to the store with you - then I'm gonna be worried

I see your point about being annoyed, but boy, the chances are pretty strong that your DS is going to get hurt again here, and my "Mama Bear" claws come out when it happens around here. Very hard to keep my mouth shut, but, like you, I just bite my tongue until it's ready to bleed!!

I feel like at this point that he is tuning out my warnings (the old, it won't happen to me train of thought) Most of the "don't get used" speech and other issues regarding continued friendship etc. were discussed last week and over the weekend when he was at his lowest point. DH called me a little while ago and he said he tried to broach the subject last night but was promtly shut down. After all, what do we know

Fortunately, I have not seen FGF, I think I would have a harder time not telling her to stop stringing him along and knock it off. I don't think she is mean and heartless I just think she is 17, confused and since she has a set of knockers she has power of manipulation that I know she is aware of but my DS because "Boys are Stupid" is not aware of. I do not think she is intentionally stringing him along, but her indecisions and going back and forth don't help. I'm sure she might be trying to let him down easy and the dork is not taking the hint.

Oh - forgot to tell all of you that we bought Jersey Boys and Mamma Mia tickets for our New York trip. And Lewis Black (profane, but insanely funny comedian) is playing here in Colorado Springs they night before we leave, so I got tickets for him as well. So we have some plans all ready to go!!!

That sounds like so much fun! You and DH are having a second honeymoon - Don't take the fish!

 

[Sandy V.]

I would not be too concerned unless you buy it a purse to take it to the store with you - then I'm gonna be worried

Yeah, that would be a little overboard. But the visual is funny!!

I feel like at this point that he is tuning out my warnings (the old, it won't happen to me train of thought) Most of the "don't get used" speech and other issues regarding continued friendship etc. were discussed last week and over the weekend when he was at his lowest point. DH called me a little while ago and he said he tried to broach the subject last night but was promtly shut down. After all, what do we know

Fortunately, I have not seen FGF, I think I would have a harder time not telling her to stop stringing him along and knock it off. I don't think she is mean and heartless I just think she is 17, confused and since she has a set of knockers she has power of manipulation that I know she is aware of but my DS because "Boys are Stupid" is not aware of. I do not think she is intentionally stringing him along, but her indecisions and going back and forth don't help. I'm sure she might be trying to let him down easy and the dork is not taking the hint.

Without being too profane and NOT meaning to insult your son at all, there's a saying out there about men thinking with the wrong head . . . I know my DS (and sometimes my DH) are guilty of that!!! You're right; she's probably not mean and heartless, but she is using her "charms" in the only way that she knows how to try and make people do what she wants.

That sounds like so much fun! You and DH are having a second honeymoon - Don't take the fish!

No fishes and no dog either. Tundra doesn't travel well.

 

[mamacatnv]

Yeah, that would be a little overboard. But the visual is funny!!

Slosh, slosh, slosh

Without being too profane and NOT meaning to insult your son at all, there's a saying out there about men thinking with the wrong head . . . I know my DS (and sometimes my DH) are guilty of that!!! You're right; she's probably not mean and heartless, but she is using her "charms" in the only way that she knows how to try and make people do what she wants.

No insult taken, he is a male, it is in his DNA. Brain (on his shoulders) comes in 2nd when chicks are involved. A friend and I were discussing this exact thing this morning. Her DS is my DS's BFF and his GF is the master manipulator and a great source of exasperation to her and her DH. This is DS's first GF and he is acting every bit the love struck teenage boy. (it's sickening) We just continue to watch and make suggestions when he is within earshot. Sometimes though, my silence when he makes comments speaks louder than any words I could have said. Of course there is always the looks on my face too (disgust and the "oh brother" look come to mind) Poor kid...........

No fishes and no dog either. Tundra doesn't travel well.

Plus, she probably doesn't fit in the small space under the seat

 

[Sandy V.]

Slosh, slosh, slosh

Yep.

No insult taken, he is a male, it is in his DNA. Brain (on his shoulders) comes in 2nd when chicks are involved. A friend and I were discussing this exact thing this morning. Her DS is my DS's BFF and his GF is the master manipulator and a great source of exasperation to her and her DH. This is DS's first GF and he is acting every bit the love struck teenage boy. (it's sickening) We just continue to watch and make suggestions when he is within earshot. Sometimes though, my silence when he makes comments speaks louder than any words I could have said. Of course there is always the looks on my face too (disgust and the "oh brother" look come to mind) Poor kid...........

All we can do is give advice when we can and be there if the "crash" comes. That's the tough part about being a parent.

Plus, she probably doesn't fit in the small space under the seat

Not really. She'd be much happier patrolling the aisles being petted and begging for leftover food (although on today's modern airlines, there's not much food to go around - although Tundra would certainly eat pretzels and peanuts if that's all that was available.).

 

[mamacatnv]

All we can do is give advice when we can and be there if the "crash" comes. That's the tough part about being a parent.

You are so right and it is so hard to just shut up and let him sort it out. But, sort it out is what he must do. I hope that the relationship just dwindles away (easier for him) although I am realistic and know he is headed for a cliff. DH, my BFF and I are all on hyper alert. We are watching and listening and trying to keep our mouths shut. If DS had any idea of the conversations that his relationship has created, he would think at this point that we have all gone off the deep end.

I can see the headline now:

Dog, size of a bear ate all onboard snacks. Was later removed from the flight for failure to bathe!​

Poor Tundra, she is so misunderstood!

 

[Sandy V.]

I can see the headline now:

Dog, size of a bear ate all onboard snacks. Was later removed from the flight for failure to bathe!​

Poor Tundra, she is so misunderstood!

Well, she's not quite the size of a bear, but she certainly fits the dirty part!!!

 

[mamacatnv]

Well, she's not quite the size of a bear, but she certainly fits the dirty part!!!

So totally not on the subject but last night my DH worked an almost 14 hour day, when he gets home all he says is "my brain is tired". We have dinner and he is unwinding. Then he takes his dishes to the kitchen and is just standing in the kitchen motionless and looking lost, I asked him what he was looking for (at this point he has his back to me) and he says "Oreos" (my DH loves his cookies ) so, I reach over and pick up the ziplock bag that is on the counter that holds his cookies. He turns on a dime, his face is lit up and his eyes have that bug eyed look - he heard his cookies. DS and I were just rolling DS says Dad, you are like Fat Cat, watch and DS picks up the cat food canister and gives it a shake..........Simon, the Fat Cat can be heard jumping off his vantage point on the couch and making a bee line for the food dish. DS and I are laughing so hard, poor DH is just happy to have his cookies located!

Hey, have a great trip. Be safe and have fun

 

[horseshowmom]

I am not going to be able to get through the prior posts because the U.S. Supreme Court has issued several opinions today and I have to help analyze them.

I've been keeping up with some of them. Some I agree with and some I don't (I'm sure your bosses will want you to add that to your analysis - I know my opinion will probably rank right up there for them! ).

We leave tomorrow morning for Nebraska.

On Saturday, the family will gather at MIL's house for a barbecue and reunion. Like I said before, I am VERY curious about nephew's wife and what kind of impression she makes. We'll shoot off the fireworks that evening.

Just wondering whether one thing will have anything to do with the other...

I would not be too concerned unless you buy it a purse to take it to the store with you - then I'm gonna be worried

DS has breakfast with FGF (former girlfriend) she called him, wanted to talk. Evidently things are not going so well with loser replacement and she misses DS. (can I just say I want to smack some sense into that boys head) anyway. He says to me "I think we have figured out how to be friends" (Boys are stupid!) I don't say much because I know at this point anything I say he is not going to hear.

Yep, he's hanging onto that thread for dear life, isn't he? Bless his heart.

You're right, you just think you know how things are, you really don't have a clue (insert heavy sarcasm here ). While I hated all the drama we went through last fall with crazy ex-BF, it was a nice example of DD seeing that, "Wow, I really did have the wrong idea about him, and Mom and Dad actually knew what they were talking about!" (now there's a wild concept for you! )

He is happy once again and we proceed to the Oral Surgeon. Good news, he only has 1 wisdom tooth, it is showing and the Surgeon is going to take it out in 2 weeks.

I'm glad he's happy again, but I know that kind of upsets you too, because you know it's for all the wrong reasons.

So then he says, “I just want her to hurry up and graduate from high school so we can move on” – ummm, the boy does not get it, she is ready to move on and at the same time not completely cutting the cord meanwhile he is hanging on a little piece of hope.

I Feel like he is being used.
I Feel like he is being stupid

BUT

I do remember how it feels to be dumped. I do remember wanting to get back together with someone so bad it physically hurt and I do remember how intense those feelings are.

Yep, me too. NOT a good thing (and makes him really vulnerable to manipulation and being hurt).

You know, I'm not too mad at FGF, this is all part of the age. I am annoyed with her and annoyed that DS is falling for it more than I am mad at her, if that makes any sense at all.

All we can do is give advice when we can and be there if the "crash" comes. That's the tough part about being a parent.

Stinks, doesn't it?

She'd be much happier patrolling the aisles being petted and begging for leftover food

 

[Sandy V.]

Good afternoon and Happy Monday!!!

Back from our whirlwind trip. It went well; very nice to see everyone. Nephew's wife was okay, although you definitely get the impression that she wears the pants in THAT family. My SIL (nephew's mom) said that nephew's wife was on her best behavior, so I wasn't surprised that there weren't any issues. The one thing she did that had everyone talking (behind her back) was that she has a rather LARGE bust, and she wore a sleeveless strappy shirt that she kept nearly spilling over the top of!! It was hard not to stare, well, not so hard for ME, but mainly it was hard for the males in the family!!!

I am tired and have to get back to work, but wanted to let you know that everything went well. Talk to you later!!!

 

[mamacatnv]

Good afternoon and Happy Monday!!!

Back from our whirlwind trip. It went well; very nice to see everyone. Nephew's wife was okay, although you definitely get the impression that she wears the pants in THAT family. My SIL (nephew's mom) said that nephew's wife was on her best behavior, so I wasn't surprised that there weren't any issues. The one thing she did that had everyone talking (behind her back) was that she has a rather LARGE bust, and she wore a sleeveless strappy shirt that she kept nearly spilling over the top of!! It was hard not to stare, well, not so hard for ME, but mainly it was hard for the males in the family!!!

I am tired and have to get back to work, but wanted to let you know that everything went well. Talk to you later!!!

Glad you made it home safe and enjoyed your weekend.

In my neck of the woods we call that a hoochie mama shirt

 

[horseshowmom]

you definitely get the impression that she wears the pants in THAT family.

she has a rather LARGE bust, and she wore a sleeveless strappy shirt that she kept nearly spilling over the top of!! It was hard not to stare, well, not so hard for ME, but mainly it was hard for the males in the family!!!

In my neck of the woods we call that a hoochie mama shirt

Ya'll do recall a discussion that we held awhile back concerning the control voluptuous young women have over young men, don't you?

BTW, Melissa, that's what we call them around here too! I am one of those large busted people, and I never felt the need nor the desire to put everything out for public display, KWIM?


ETA: Glad you had a safe trip, Sandy!

 

[Sandy V.]

Thanks, ladies. I've heard the term "hoochie mama", and you're right - it applies here!!!!!