Let’s help new pin traders avoid the cheap pins

[Donald is #1]

I've used them. I've come across a couple of possible scrappers in my lot of 100, maybe 5 or so, but all the rest have been perfectly tradeable.

And let me stress that those 5 or so are possible scrappers. For all I know, they might not be. But I've set them aside as non-tradeable just to sure.

*Brian*

Thanks! I am bidding on a couple of lots on EBAY. But the lots that I have been tracking are now selling for about the same per pin as pinseller's website. So, if I don't get win the couple of lots that I am bidding on, I think that I will buy from pinseller and save the aggravation.

 

[taylorsmommy05]

Hi
Can anyone tell me if these are Srappers? He seems to have an awful lot of them.... but they look so legit.... UGH!
ebay id is... bksdistribution
He has a ton in his store CHEAP....
thanks
Jenn

 

[MOM POPPINS]

His pins all look good. They are all legit pins.

 

[Roxane]

I would venture to guess that at least some are scrappers. The DLR Pirate Hidden Mickey pin hasn't been released at DLR yet, so anyone selling it had to get it from the factory.

 

[taylorsmommy05]

Once I get them... since I already ordered them... How will I know?
I got this email from him today.... Wierd too That I did not question him directly about this... only this forum....

"Hi,

I wanted to say thanks for the purchase and also to hopefully ease your mind about the pins you bought. Yes the prices are cheap but I buy the pins is larger lots from reputable people I dont make much on each pin and have to sell in volume in order to make any money. I know this was a concern of yours but im sure youll be very happy with the pins when you receive them. Im shipping the items today!! Have a great weekend."

so I have been had haven't I? hahahah
Owell its for my daughter who most likely would rather wear the lanyard in disney than Trade any pins as she is still pretty young.

Jenn

 

[missj1975]

Once I get them... since I already ordered them... How will I know?
I got this email from him today.... Wierd too That I did not question him directly about this... only this forum....

"Hi,

I wanted to say thanks for the purchase and also to hopefully ease your mind about the pins you bought. Yes the prices are cheap but I buy the pins is larger lots from reputable people I dont make much on each pin and have to sell in volume in order to make any money. I know this was a concern of yours but im sure youll be very happy with the pins when you receive them. Im shipping the items today!! Have a great weekend."

so I have been had haven't I? hahahah
Owell its for my daughter who most likely would rather wear the lanyard in disney than Trade any pins as she is still pretty young.

Jenn

I buy from bksdistribution and they are all authentic disney pins. I forwarded him this thread yesterday because I thought it was funny that someone was questioning his pins. Anyway, you haven't been had because his pins aren't scrappers.

 

[missj1975]

I would venture to guess that at least some are scrappers. The DLR Pirate Hidden Mickey pin hasn't been released at DLR yet, so anyone selling it had to get it from the factory.

The pins aren't scrappers. I have a couple of the DLR Pirate Hidden Mickey pins and no I didn't get them from "the factory" or from eBay. And if anyone is curious, sorry but I won't reveal my source.

 

[taylorsmommy05]

I am glad to hear that! Thanks!!
So how come he has those pirate pins that the poster above me said were scrappers?
Just Curious!
He was very nice.. I can't wait to get the pins regardless!

 

[taylorsmommy05]

hahah you posted my answer/question before I asked!
thanks!

 

[Roxane]

The pins aren't scrappers. I have a couple of the DLR Pirate Hidden Mickey pins and no I didn't get them from "the factory" or from eBay. And if anyone is curious, sorry but I won't reveal my source.

I'm sorry, but the pin reps at DLR say that none of the new hidden Mickey pirate pins have been released. The only way people could have them is either from the factory or stolen from backstage at DLR. I bought some of the Chip and Dale pins from that seller to check them out. The Turkey leg has the wrong backstamp.

 

[missj1975]

I'm sorry, but the pin reps at DLR say that none of the new hidden Mickey pirate pins have been released. The only way people could have them is either from the factory or stolen from backstage at DLR. I bought some of the Chip and Dale pins from that seller to check them out. The Turkey leg has the wrong backstamp.

Well, I will have to disagree because I didn't get mine from "the factory" and I didn't steal them either.

 

[GhillieGirlBelle1987]

Is there anybody here who is really into EPCOT pins, cuz I would really like to find some vintage EPCOT center pins but am having a hard time determining if some of them are legit or not.

 

[princesssonny]

I already bought from this seller, but was curious if her pins are legit. They all look good to me with some that have cast lanyard series on the back along with most of them have the Official Pin Trader logo. The item number of an auction similar to mine is 300102123601.


There is a seperate one I purchased that now I am not so sure about and the item number is 120109356804.

Can anyone authenticate a group of 5 cast lanyard series pins from Disneyland. All are coupons with Mickey and each is devoted to a section of the park. For example the B coupon pin says Disneyland good for choice of one with Mickey on it. The two choices are Frontierland Mike Fink Keel Boats and Adventureland Swiss Family Tree House. The pin is orange. There are 4 others like this lettered A through E. I think these pins are really cool and that is why I am asking. Also, they do have Cast Lanyard Series stamped on the back.

 

[GoofyBaby]

I buy from bksdistribution and they are all authentic disney pins. I forwarded him this thread yesterday because I thought it was funny that someone was questioning his pins. Anyway, you haven't been had because his pins aren't scrappers.

I am in no way trying to start an argument - just giving my experience here, but I recently bought a set of Mr. Toad cast lanyard pins from this seller and I found out later from the PinPics website that these particular pins are not even being released until November 2007. PinPics says that these particular Mr. Toad pins out there right now are from the secondary market and that they are unauthorized. Here are the PinPics links to the pins I bought - be sure to scroll nearly to the bottom of each page where it says these pins are unauthorized:

Mr. Toad pin
Mole pin
Rat pin
Angus MacBadger pin

I have to agree, because the quality of the pins I received from him were not Disney quality - uneven pin surfaces and some smeared paint. I have never bought or traded a pin in Disney that looked like these did, as far as quality goes. So I think I was had, and it was my own fault for not checking PinPics or Dizpins BEFORE I made the impulse purchase, but at least I was only out about $13. Instead of buying pins from eBay in the future, I will purchase from reputable members on the Dizpins boards, which I have done before and have always been pleased with my purchases. Dizpins said it best when they said that you really can't verify the authenticity of a pin unless you buy it directly from a Disney park. It's true. . .some of the scrappers, unauthorized or counterfeit pins look so good that only a true pin expert could tell the difference!

This was just my experience! Your mileage may vary.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Pins that are up for auction that have not been released yet should really be a red flag, I think. I bought a TON of pins on eBay from a bunch of different sellers. Soem were from the individual's own collection. Some were probably scrappers. I was looking at a 10-pin lot the other day when I noticed that same seller had an IDENTICAL lot closing a bit later. Whne I went in to view "completed" auctions that seller has been selling that same identical set over and over. Where on earth would someone get thousands of identical Cast Lanyard pins legitimately?

Just looking at the pins that I suspect are scrappers is pointless - there is nothing visibly wrong with them, the back stamps are correct, the paint looks fine. I really think I should stay away from eBay pins!

I also think that even getting pins from CMs is an inexact science. If someone traded a scrapper to the CM 2 minutes ago, then I come along and get the scrapper I would have no way of knowing it wasn't issued to the CM from Disney. It is frustrating.

 

[taylorsmommy05]

I was the original poster who asked about bksdistribution. After the first poster said his pins were Legit... I went and spent around 20$ with this seller. I recieved the pins and YES they are TOTAL SCRAPPERS... the paint jobs HORRIBLE, the pins are not shiny like my disney pins, they don't have the same texture for the outline as my disney pins, etc... They are Junk, they are scrappers, they will not be going to Disney with us... I put them with my DD junk dress up jewlery...
Anyway I should have realized the signs before I even bid. I went and did a search on what he had purchased in the last month. He purchased single pins of pins that HE was now SELLING! Ok First Clue.. why I was such an idiot I have NO IDEA.. but I was and I was HAD! He probably used the single Legit pins he bought on ebay to post the pictures of his Multiple quantitys of the scrappers!
Then another poster said his Pins were legit and sent him my post of this forum of me questioning his pins. I then get a reply back from BKsdistribution... That I actually posted a few pages back... Promising me he does NOT sell Scrapper, They they are all LEGIT, blah blah, blah.
Which then brings me to the day I recieve the pins... As soon as I opened them I could tell without even examing them very hard that they are scrappers. How people are not seeing this purchasing from him I do not know.
What I also found funny was he enclosed TWO scripture cards with my order! I was SO discusted by the entire LIE/CON for being had... I didn't even read it. I just dumped the cards and envelope and threw the pins in the dress up box.
ANYWAY... he is down to only a few pins from the hundreds and hundreds of quantity he had...But DON"T BUY from him unless you are looking for SCRAPPERS... JUNK ... TRASH!
UNREAL! I won't buy any other pins now till we get to Disney...
UNREAL is all I can say!
AND YES I HOPE HE READS THIS... SO SEND AWAY AGAIN TO HIM!

 

[cinderellacm2000]

Good heavens!

OK, first of all, no one is an idiot..lol. It has happened to all of us at one time or another. You learn from experiences and this is quite an experience. I too have marked this dude down as someone not to buy from. There is no excuse for selling junk. How do they get away with it? That is something I just do not understand. I hope everyone who has bought from him has left some ultra negative feedback.

Don't let one bad apple, (or even 100) spoil the entire ebay experience for you. For every bad experience there are probably multitudes of good ones there. A good seller even throws in extras from time to time to let people (and traders) know that he/she cares about the hobby and the customer base. Keep your chins up and don't be so hard on yourselves.

If you have questions about auctions, email someone that knows pins, or post on a message board that has people that know this hobby inside and out. We are all here as Disney fans to help you learn!

 

[taylorsmommy05]

unfortunatly nobody leaves him negative feedback... Because who wants to be the reciever of RETALIATIVE feedback... since sellers nolonger leave feed until the Buyer does... so in essence its a USUELESS system!

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

I am sorry your pins are junk! That sucks!

I agree about feedback. I am always BOGGLED when sellers leave feedback for me before I get the items, but my friend told me that's what the sellers are supposed to do! I bought a 12 pin lot on Friday night and the seller left feedback for me on Saturday morning, then he sent me a note to let me know the pins shipped out that morning. Very nice man. I always leave nice feedback once my transaction is complete, but if I was a seller I would probably be very nervous about leaving feedback before I knew the customer was satisfied. Or if I was a seller selling substandard merchandise I would hold my feedback so I could refute any negatives my buyers left!

 

[EpcotMatt]

As a seller, I always leave feedback as soon as the buyer pays. They fulfilled their end of the agreement. It's irrelevant how the rest of the deal goes. If all sellers did this, there wouldn't be retaliatory negs. And doesn't relatliation feedback not count as neg anymore? I've been away from ebay for awhile.