latex allergies and WDW parks

Status
Not open for further replies.

MidgeD79

It's a Small World summer of 2017
Joined
Jan 26, 2005
Messages
2,138
On the theme park thread a RN with severe latex allergies posted that WDW is going back to latex balloons. She is concerned about how to deal with it. Some of the responses were unbelievable. I was so disappointed! Any suggesstions for her?
 
"She is concerned about how to deal with it"

Actually this is incorrect.She is trying to organise a letter writing campaign to get Disney to BAN latex balloons.

I would have no problem with the OP asking how to avoid them and cope but she is not.She is asking for everyone to bend over completely backwards for her.I have a disable child myself- so i understand the need to make plans.I dont however ask Disney to change their policies to accomodate me.
 

rhiannonwales said:
"She is concerned about how to deal with it"

Actually this is incorrect.She is trying to organise a letter writing campaign to get Disney to BAN latex balloons.

I would have no problem with the OP asking how to avoid them and cope but she is not.She is asking for everyone to bend over completely backwards for her.I have a disable child myself- so i understand the need to make plans.I dont however ask Disney to change their policies to accomodate me.

Well, isn't that what the equal access laws are about? With your standard there would be no ramps, curb cuts, braille markers, elevators supplementing the escalators, and on and on. What is relevant to the OP's problem is that it is such a unique problem and such a huge environment to try and control. Disney could ban the balloons but what about the other sources of latex contamination? Is it not just sensible to leave the control of this allergy in the hands of the one having the allergic reaction? It would be crazy to require that a business that deals in outdoor entertainment eradicate all bees from their property because of the few people who are deathly allergic to bee stings, for example. Let them cary an epi-pen, I say. And what of the passengers sharing my flight to Orlando who say they are allergic to dogs? So, I hang Cash out the window?
Nope.
I tell them that there is no case in which the ADA definition of disability has ever been stretched to include allergies. No ADA? No accommodation.
:blush:
 
[
Well, isn't that what the equal access laws are about? With your standard there would be no ramps, curb cuts, braille markers, elevators supplementing the escalators, and on and on.

Actually there is a difference, in that all the above changes in no way impinge upon other guests use and enjoyment of the park.What she is asking for would.

As for the the other points you made, i agree with you.There is no way to effectively control such a problem in such a large area.
 
So much for a more sympathetic response on this board I guess :sad2:

I don't know enough about latex allergies to make many comments but I did not realize that some people are allergic to latex like my son is allergic to peanuts - through residue left behind. And also though an airborne reaction. I always thought they had to touch the latex. So that is very interesting.

I am sympathetic to the OP - I can understand that latex can't be controlled everywhere (much like peanuts) but if latex balloons are that serious of a hazard and most likely to cause residue and airborne reactions, then I wouldn't mind having them not sold in places like WDW, or Chuck E Cheese, etc. Certainly not selling balloons wouldn't eliminate all risk but it could make, if this is true, a huge difference for those with that allergy.

I do find myself disappointed in some of the responses. Some people seem incredibly insensitive to having to making the most mild adjustments that could mean so much to someone else. Most allergies mentioned aren't touch or airborne (usually through ingestion of the food - which is more easily avoided). Obviously it would be impossible to eliminate bees - the analogy is not even appropriate! Doing without peanuts on plane for a few hours (or even a day!) or without a balloon here and there - I would GLADLY try to show this kindness to someone in need.

As for folks who don't care and have the "don't limit my access to anything I want at any time"? :confused3
 
In all honesty, it would be as easy for her to minimize her risk as it is for someone allergic to various pollens, insects, peanuts, and many other airborne allergens. She would jsut prefer not to, and instead wants to ban latex balloons from the property, which is pretty much impossible as people bring them in from other attractions to their rooms, and not all rooms require passage through a central lobby to reach.

I have a host of allergies, some more serious than others. Some are airborne, others food based, and still more are critter based. I have had endless successful visits to WDW, I just use common sense to avoid my allergens. I don't expect WDW to do anything other than tell me what foods I need to avoid, and provide a non-smoking room when applicable. Otherwise I take responsibility for myself.

Disney restaurants are for the most part volumnous. By the posters admission, latex outdoors isn't much of a problem, but it is if it's near her inside it could be. I suggested some very sensible mitigations, such as making sure restaurants managers and hosts were aware of my situation and seating me at a far end of the room, and keeping anyone with any balloons away from me. I also suggested contacting special services about having the room "special cleaned" before my arrival, and using my own car rather than WDW's transportation.

IMHO there is no way to completely eradicate exposure to latex. What about someone at the next table giving their baby a bottle with a latex nipple? Or someone who uses a latex (I call them) "roundtuit's" to open a jar of baby food? People who have other latex items on their person, be they for medical devices or anything else have just as much right to be there!

Instead of asking for a complete ban, she should instead be asking herself what can be done to minimize her risk--thus taking responsibility for herself. I do'nt ask WDW to remove the trees I'm allergic to. Instead I try to visit when they are less likely to be pollenating. People with peanut allergic kids don't ask for peanuts to be eliminated from the entire 47 mile property. Instead they notify restaurant managers who seat them as far away from others as possible, choose restaurants where there are no or minimal peanut products on the menu, dine early when restaurants are less likely to be crowded, travel during very off-peak times, and keep an epi-pen handy.

Reasonable accomodation is just that. Reasonable. it doesn't mean that anyone has to bend over backwards to accomodate every last need and whim of every person with a disability or medical condition in the world. It means that they need to make reasonable efforts to make their premesis reasonably barrier free (and barrier can more more than a physical barrier to free movement) so that a person with a disability can have a reasonably similar experience to anyone else.

Personally I feel that WDW handles allergies better than any other place I've ever travelled to. They bend over backwards to accomodate. But they shouldn't be expected to completely take responsibility for managing people's allergies. That is an individual responsibility.

As I said in my post on the other thread, if WDW took everything out of their parks and resorts that any given person could be allergic to, what would be left? Air. Water. That's about it.

While I certainly empathize with her, the tone of her post was very much that she expected the world to change because of her, and didn't want to take any active role in safeguarding herself. That tone is probably what put a lot of responders hackels up, and frankly I can't blame them.

Anne
 
Other sources of indoor latex at WDW would include the mousepads on the computers, so checking in could be a problem, and the carpet backing on the rugs, if worn/wet, could cause the latex to break down, making it airborne as well. Also, being near the buses, as the tires are latex as well, and the constant stream of buses at the bus stops could leave a lot of friction-released latex in the air.

Toys in the gift shops (such as koosh balls) could also have latex, and kids could cause cross-contimination by playing with them, then touching something else. Even using a pen handed to you by a cashier (the grippy thing could be latex, or crosscontamination could occur) could cause a reaction.
 
I don't think the issue is that there are multiple sources of latex so why bother controlling one source? *If* balloons are a *major* source of airborne and contact reactions for latex sensitive people, then it would seem reasonable to make efforts to reduce that particular source. It is not a valid argument to say that just because we cannot eliminate *all* sources of contamination we should not bother trying to eliminate a major source. Especially when the solution can often be so simple.

Just like peanut products - there could be peanut butter on virtually anything my son touches (pens, toys, handle bars, etc) and he would have a reaction. But WDW does a very good job of controlling the most likely sources of peanut cross contamination in their restaurants (using Uncrustables, preparing PB sandwiches elsewhere and pre-wrapping, etc). It helps immensely! It won't stop William from perhaps accidentally touching someone's smudge of peanut butter left on a chair in a restaurant or in a hotel room but that could happen anywhere/anytime and just part of the high cost of living IMHO. We carry epi-pens of course.

I think the issue really hinges on whether latex balloons are a major source of airborne and contact reactions for those with the latex allergy. I've not heard of that personally but most of what I know about allergies are food related. I don't think that any of us have personally lamented the lack of latex balloons at WDW. If something simple can be changed that makes a big difference for someone with serious allergies then I am all for it.
 
I too am surprised by the respnses on here. ALL zoos across the country ban latex balloons AND drinking straws for the safety of the animals. Do I understand some people that the safety of animals is more important than the safety of people? Maybe if the op staed that latex balloons should be banned because of the risk to animals she would have gotten a more positive response.
 
MidgeD79 said:
I too am surprised by the respnses on here. ALL zoos across the country ban latex balloons AND drinking straws for the safety of the animals. Do I understand some people that the safety of animals is more important than the safety of people? Maybe if the op staed that latex balloons should be banned because of the risk to animals she would have gotten a more positive response.

The risk to animals is entirely different (and BTW--NOT all zoos across the country ban these items). The thought process is more that people will throw these items into the animal pens and cause a choking hazard.

Again, I think the OP in the other thread wasn't willing to take responsibility for her allergy, and work on mitigating her exposure, instead expected WDW to do it for her.

As I've pointed out, not selling balloons in the parks is a false sense of security as there are so many other sources of potential contamination, including a variety of toys.

If WDW removed every item that could be source of allergic reaction to anyone, there would eb nothing left.

Anne
 
Selket said:
Just like peanut products - there could be peanut butter on virtually anything my son touches (pens, toys, handle bars, etc) and he would have a reaction. But WDW does a very good job of controlling the most likely sources of peanut cross contamination in their restaurants (using Uncrustables, preparing PB sandwiches elsewhere and pre-wrapping, etc).

FYI--the PB&J sandwiches served at Jiko are NOT uncrustables and NOT made elsewhere, they are made right in the kitchen at Jiko.

Also, BOMA has a LOT of peanut and peanut products in their food, and is a cross contamination mightmare.

Anne
 
Ok, my turn now. I have 2 daughters that are allergic to latex. The youngest one just gets red blotches. The oldest one can’t breathe and turns blue.

Latex balloons and latex gloves are the 2 worst reactions because they are ingested through the airway causing the reactions. Both contain powder that causes the reaction. We don’t have problems avoiding latex at WDW but if they allow the latex balloons again it will be a big problem. If we are in a restaurant or on a Disney bus and someone comes in with a latex balloon there is a good chance that my child will leave in on a stretcher.

I think the latex Mickey head balloons are a big waste of money anyway because most people buy them on their way out of the park and by the next morning they have lost all their helium and are thrown out.

Maybe this has helped people understand that unlike other allergies except peanut that latex is a deadly airborne allergy and not just an allergy like a food allergy (which I have anaphylactic reactions to fish), or trees or pollen.

Also, unlike other allergies reactions to latex have been known to cause severe brain damage in a few cases.
 
Michigan said:
Maybe this has helped people understand that unlike other allergies except peanut that latex is a deadly airborne allergy and not just an allergy like a food allergy (which I have anaphylactic reactions to fish), or trees or pollen.

Also, unlike other allergies reactions to latex have been known to cause severe brain damage in a few cases.

While my allergy to certain tree pollens (many of which are at WDW) isn't deadly in itself, it directly causes a severe asthma attack which could be as fatal as your daughters allergies. So don't give me that crock of crap, or I'll have you speak to my doctor about how ill I was back in March--within hours of being hospitalized and intubated. I wasn't hospitalized only because I was too boneheaded to go, and at the moment too ill to think straight.

Latex is all over the place, and as I've stated before, there are ways of avoiding balloons at WDW--if you want to take responsibility for yourself and do some planning, just like people who deal with peanut and other allergies have to do.

Anne
 
Please put this to rest, I am looking out for myself and others who are latex allergic. I hope that someday if and when any of you that have a health problem and are asking for help persons educate themselves prior to speaking or posting and understand the problem before flaming someone. I was asking for the latex balloons to be banned, not the mylar or any other latex product. I travel with all the necessary medication including epipen and protable nebulizer all the time during my stay. I guess you have to have the problem and live it for anyone to understand how the balloons can cause a deadly problem no matter how you try to avoid them. I will not post about this problem again and did not mean to cause all the flames.
 
i think people are missing the idea here. Am i right in saying that previous disney had stopped selling these balloons due to the allergy and are now thinking about bringing them back? If so, I think writing letters is a great idea because disney has accomadated you already and perhaps it's a "cost cutting" alternative that they are bringing them back for. If so, letters would help them realize why they took them away in the first place.

I don't think this is about someone asking disney to bend over backwards, it's about disney bringing BACK something they already got rid of...why do it? It's probably about the money, and as such i think people SHOULD send letters describing why they were happy disney no longer had latex balloons in the first place...

...oh and thosee talking about peanut allergies and airplanes, i've noticed on recent trips that planes have been giving out pretzels instead of peanuts on quite a few airlines, is this due to allergies? I don't know, but it's possible.
 
Latex allergies had nothing to do with the decision to stop selling them originally. It was purely a financial decision based on cost v. potential profit at that point.

Anne
 
Just like Vinyl gloves are used in the hospitals... maybe WDW has found a source for vinyl balloons....and people just assume they are going to be latex. WDW is an amazing leader in the "new" stuff. Plus WDW is what 75% outside attractions...walking..that's alot of air circulating. I don't see people with balloons on rides.
And until we know the facts...
nothing is for sure.

Everyone have a Magical night
 
I posted on the other board and I will again here. This post shows that many people do not understand the latex allergy and how severe it can be. Different people react differently to latex based items. My son just turned 5 in May -- he has a daily dose of Zrytec to counteract those things we cannot avoid -- carpet, underwear, socks, the soles of his shoes, etc. We carry Benadryl Fastmelts to give him when we first notice that he's made contact (his ears and checks turn bright red, his hands swell with hives and the whites of his eyes turn red) and we carry two Epi Pen's. Most of the time the Benadryl is enough to counteract his reactions. For other people, they don't get these warnings - it's instant anaphalaxis.

My son doesn't have a problem with tires -- cars, busses or his bike. My husband is a Chemist and explained why the latex breakdown in the tires are different than say a glove or ball. We do have to avoid Koosh and Nerf products, he cannot make contact with a lot of foams -- the craft foams that so many daycares use (including his) will cause an immediate reaction. One night at church he was playing with a foam frisbee -- immediate reaction. We have to be careful on what brand of Bandaids are used on him and we have to supervise stickers to make sure they are not applied to his skin. He put a sticker on his cheek in the car one day and his cheek turned purple. However, he can go to McDonald's and play on the cushy playground (similar to Pooh's Playful Spot I believe) and is fine.

My cousin has this allergy more like the OP -- you can't even touch one of her children with a balloon, gloves, etc. and then she touch them without a trip to the hospital.

To me it seems when someone is uniformed about a condition, they are not very sympathetic -- after all, it doesn't concern them a bit. It is MY responsibility to make sure my son is safe -- but that will be a challenge when other children are waving balloons in front of his face or when we are in a crowded situation and cannot get away from them.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.












Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE













DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter DIS Bluesky

Back
Top